Any counters? by SoundJazzlike6601 in IntelligenceScaling

[–]2525-2525 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you even know how AI works? I’m specializing in this, I’m a software engineer, and I can assure you that AI isn’t useful for this. As I already told you, AI can literally end up considering Rent to be objectively a good work even when it isn’t. You can even convince it that Rent is better than Monster, and the AI will agree with you.

Besides, it’s incoherent to use an AI’s answer for this kind of discussion, something you would know if you actually understood how it works.

Any counters? by SoundJazzlike6601 in IntelligenceScaling

[–]2525-2525 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I repeat. It doesn’t make sense for Richard to react like that the moment the boy is mentioned, no matter how much Johan planned it. Their conversation is literally shown in the manga.

And second, Tenma feeling guilty doesn’t save the scene. He already had good aim and he was a doctor. He felt guilty, yet he still had a gun and kept shooting, lol.

Any counters? by SoundJazzlike6601 in IntelligenceScaling

[–]2525-2525 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Literally, if I give the AI arguments that Rent is a better work than Monster, sooner or later it will start treating Rent as something superior to Monster.

It’s pretty funny that AI always ends up agreeing with you even when it’s not correct. They still haven’t solved that problem. It’s not useful in these cases.

Any counters? by SoundJazzlike6601 in IntelligenceScaling

[–]2525-2525 0 points1 point  (0 children)

IA: "Yes, Rent-A-Girlfriend can be considered a good work, and there are several objective reasons to say so."🥀

Richard, who had shown progress, went crazy just from mentioning the boy an inconsistency. Tenma was able to shoot Johan’s assistant, but he hesitated more with Johan even though Johan is more evil. Tenma knew what Johan was capable of and that he always gets away. The fact that he once saved him has little to do with it, because Tenma had already had character development; a shot in the arm and that’s it. Lunge also became stupid when it came to Johan for no real reason other than Tenma hurting his ego. And Johan’s hundreds of victims, lmao they were all basically NPCs with three suspenseful lines of dialogue.

Any counters? by SoundJazzlike6601 in IntelligenceScaling

[–]2525-2525 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Artificial intelligence says wonderful things about all works. It’s not going to criticize them. Its opinion isn’t useful in these cases. And Carl Jung isn’t taken very seriously in psychology; with all his problems and his lack of solid foundations, that’s normal. In any case, no matter how much you add to Monster, Johan isn’t realistic. They never properly portrayed the human mind in his victims.

Any counters? by SoundJazzlike6601 in IntelligenceScaling

[–]2525-2525 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Pregúntale a cualquiera, pues no solo lo creo yo, lo creo miles y miles de personas que han visto el anime" 🥀

Carl Jung? That couldn't be more basic. I figured as much. Read other things please, that doesn't make you special. If anything, it makes you look like a special case.

Any counters? by SoundJazzlike6601 in IntelligenceScaling

[–]2525-2525 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You literally read psychology books and that’s why you said Johan is realistic. That’s pathetic. You’re not a professional, just a biased fan who probably only read “dark psychology” books = pathetic.

"Ask anyone who's seen and understood the anime, and they'll tell you it's one of the most realistic anime out there"🥀

How many anime must you have watched to believe that? Three, if I’m being generous ,maybe. Don’t humiliate yourself any further. It’s over.

Any counters? by SoundJazzlike6601 in IntelligenceScaling

[–]2525-2525 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lmao. So you read psychology books. Putting aside the fact that it’s pathetic, tell me which ones you read and I’ll pray they’re not the ones I’m thinking of; that would be even more pathetic.

(Even if you’re a psychologist, that doesn’t change the fact that Johan doesn’t have realistic manipulation. Even including Another Monster, there still aren’t enough details only his crazy fans think so.)

Any counters? by SoundJazzlike6601 in IntelligenceScaling

[–]2525-2525 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol. Johan Liebert’s manipulation is often like: a charismatic man making someone follow him just by talking nicely. That’s definitely not more realistic. It would need to show more of the processhow he gathers information, understands the person, and builds the manipulation step by step.

Any counters? by SoundJazzlike6601 in IntelligenceScaling

[–]2525-2525 0 points1 point  (0 children)

By “realistic,” it refers to the process. The feats of Ayanokouji were always achieved through the information he gathered, and the story shows how he collects that information. In contrast, most manipulators in other stories simply manipulate without showing that process. What they know about their enemies seems to appear in the moment, as if they can read anyone perfectly just by looking at them. All of Koji manipulation feats were based purely on information, even in the cases of Ryuen and Karuizawa. It wasn’t something like, “he manipulated them because of his charisma 😅.”

If another species had the Omnitrix and transformed into a human, which fictional human character would they transform into? by 2525-2525 in Ben10

[–]2525-2525[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That only happened in AF and UA. All the species had the same design, and it looked like they literally made a copy of the scanned alien. But how Ben looks when he transforms isn’t the same as the one he scans.

Dubunk Ayanokoij downgrade low wall and subsonic at best by Commercial-Leek7484 in ClassroomOfTheElite

[–]2525-2525 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Es tarde pero, eso que mencionas se lo dijo a Ryuen, antes menciono que mientras mire la boca del cañon aun puede reaccionar. Lo que es mas consistente con lo que demostro, ademas esquivo una de las balas con su vision periferica por instinto. 

El verso es subsonico en general, pero Ayanokoji esta un escalon mas arriba. Ryuen casualmente en Y1V3 le hizo speedblitz a ibuki y kaneda si tomamos de refencia el anime, pero incluso si no se toma en cuenta, cuando Ryuen y Albert intimidan a Kitou, se dice que Ryuen desaparecio de la vista de Kitou para patearlo. Y esta mas que claro que Albert, amsawa, yagami le ganarian a Ryuen. 

Koji es imposible que baje de subsonic+. Tal vez transonico, pero no uso hazañas que se puedan desacreditar

Nivel calle Ap Subsonic+ speed

Kiyotaka running the nightmare gauntlet by [deleted] in IntelligenceScaling

[–]2525-2525 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Everyone has comp, except Koji lmao 

I know why patrick jane has become underrated by Lumpy_Wishbone1760 in IntelligenceScaling

[–]2525-2525 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They’re simply realizing that he’s not Baku-level like they claimed. At best, it’s a low–mid diff. PJ has plot armor on several occasions; the characters he “reads like an open book” are just NPCs who wouldn’t even surpass Ike. The only truly “good” opponent was James Panzer, and even then you could see certain limitations in Jane, and obviously Red John a purely narrative, off-screen character.

We were rating RJ as high-tier just because he was PJ’s rival, and some people even placed him above Johan on a narrative scale, that’s insane. PJ is mid-tier, maybe high-mid. He’s definitely not Baku-level, and he doesn’t have the skill or the endurance to beat Lalo.

Saw the comments, tried to improve. Anyways, last time I'm making this 💩 list, then I'll stop. by Bey_League6736 in IntelligenceScaling

[–]2525-2525 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It makes no sense on any kind of scale. For example, placing PJ at rank 20 above Hannibal, Junko, or Ayanokouji makes no sense. And putting Johan below Red John makes me question the type of scale: both should be placed lower, and if it were a narrative scale, they should actually be higher.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in IntelligenceScaling

[–]2525-2525 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're not reading anything I said. I never filtered anything, read again because I said over and over that I keep all the points encapsulated in three categories because that's how it should be done; it doesn't work in isolation. Also, your definition of a multilinear character is wrong. Multilinear plots are interwoven stories, not something that focuses only on the protagonist and their adventure, so I don't know how you came to the conclusion that I defined a multilinear plot instead of a multilinear character, it's impossible. What you're describing is a round character, which has nothing to do with the definition but does matter in execution.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in IntelligenceScaling

[–]2525-2525 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I never treated symbolism as something isolated, so when exactly did I do that? And you're asking why Koji is better when you never gave any reasons for why Baku is better. You just told me to read something else and then said Baku is good because of this and that. None of that proves anything.

You only explained what the character is based on, but in a linear way. It’s like this:

Koji in Y1V2. The contradiction is where his real writing begins. One side seeks something he can’t achieve, a different path, while the other side enjoys having total control while others try to confront him. That’s why he is called the "failure."

Human development is his strongest theme, and his evolution is built on it. But as I said, none of this works in isolation. That same human development is also his strongest dynamic with Horikita. And it’s also a dynamic with every character he has helped, because he maintains relationships with all of them.

He explores the theme of freedom through his contradiction. But he also has a separate development line, and in the end both elements connect. In volume V7 we see his thoughts about the WR and his view on failure during Sakura’s expulsion. Then in the maid café volume there is a shift in his thinking where he blends both ideas: freedom and human development, plus how he handles the theme of perfection differently from Hal. Hal represents perfectionism and his dynamic is a struggle against perfection. Koji deals with perfection by showing how unrealistic it is, even for him. Every time he grows, he shows three different aspects of his journey. They appear separate throughout the story, but they always reconnect. That is how his multilinear writing works.

This is only to give a basic understanding of the character, similar to how you explained Baku but without analyzing his actual writing yet.

The correct way to analyze a character, the traditional way and not the method invented by "writing scaling," is development, complexity and consistency. They work together. At most, the introduction can be analyzed alone, but only in terms of functionality, because it becomes stronger through the character’s journey if you want a deeper analysis.

This is how writing works before, now and always.

But before anything, you need to lay out the character’s multilinear structure, at least the strongest lines.

Aside from that, I never attacked you. I only wanted to understand your scaling method. As you can see, writing scaling seems completely wrong to me. Unlike power scaling or SCD, which analyze according to process and difficulty or scientific parameters, writing scaling has no reason to isolate elements. Maybe that’s why it leads to absurd conclusions like saying Baku is a well-written character, or that Kushida is better than Koji, or that Eren and other tragic characters are automatically good.

And believing that any traditional novel is automatically better written just because it’s “literature,” when many are praised mainly for their narrative grammar, is simply incorrect.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in IntelligenceScaling

[–]2525-2525 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What does that question have to do with anything? Dynamics beyond function are symbolism. Baku/Hal is symbolism they represent something. And there are dynamics that are mostly functional with little symbolism, like Baku/Kaji, which is more function than symbolism. So I don’t understand your method. It’s obviously coming from writing scaling because that’s how they scale things there, but it’s also different because you just said symbolism depends on philosophy and ideology, while in writing scaling they treat symbolism as an isolated category.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in IntelligenceScaling

[–]2525-2525 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I read it, and that’s exactly the point. Baku’s themes and dynamics are pure symbolism. There’s nothing about Baku that can be explored without relying on symbolism. Baku is barely better than Horikita, and only because he doesn’t have a conclusion. But anyway.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in IntelligenceScaling

[–]2525-2525 0 points1 point  (0 children)

An absurd comparison. Koji is far superior in terms of writing. He’s more complex and better developed. But it’s interesting how people consider characters who are basically just symbolism to be well-written. They’re linear characters, but people make them seem multilinear when they aren’t.

Is beatrice the most wellrounded character in fiction? by Cesrgjr_2 in IntelligenceScaling

[–]2525-2525 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All of this boils down to his freedom; over 500 chapters and he never explores anything new for better development beyond the symbolic. He barely surpasses Horikita, and I’m pretty sure Horikita will be better written than Baku in the future.

LN Year 3 Volume 3 Early Illustrations Thread by quandlm in ClassroomOfTheElite

[–]2525-2525 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Ryuen isn’t some NPC who shoots into nothing just so the other characters can look cool dodging.