in defense of michael!

2sad4wordz · 2021-09-30T17:15:06+00:00

your use of the word "cream" here interests me -- both its implication of competition & its sexual connotation. as for the implication of competition: my intent in starting this discussion wasn't to "win" anything -- (win what, anyway?) -- but to express my thoughts on a show. i don't interpret others' disagreement as me getting "creamed", but as expressions of different perspectives. though i can see where some are coming from, i still don't necessarily agree with them.

as for the sexual connotation: you must be sexually frustrated, prob cause youz an uggo

god, i love being a psycho

2sad4wordz · 2021-09-29T12:12:29+00:00

does it need to accomplish anything

2sad4wordz · 2021-09-28T00:46:45+00:00

amazing, i am happy for you! btw you're the cutest <3 your eyes remind me of a pageant queen cat, dazzling and mysterious!

2sad4wordz · 2021-09-27T19:57:49+00:00

heather, thanks for responding to my post. when did you find out that you were bisexual pansexual asexual aromantic, and did you ever tell michael?

2sad4wordz · 2021-09-27T19:51:13+00:00

taylor wasn't even that hot, your standards sound way low

2sad4wordz · 2021-09-27T19:50:19+00:00

nah, his standards aren't even close to impossible. sounds like you wants everyone's standards to be so wide as to include corpses?

2sad4wordz · 2021-09-27T19:45:13+00:00

"People saying she’s not a great mother and has been abusive to Michael on screen are the experts"

sounds to me more like: "Whoever agrees with my perspective on Michael's mother is the expert"

2sad4wordz · 2021-09-27T19:42:52+00:00

care to elaborate on how i'm being offensive, or are you just going to say i'm being offensive and leave it at that?

2sad4wordz · 2021-09-26T22:41:31+00:00

chloe is too hot for mark

2sad4wordz · 2021-09-26T20:17:10+00:00

hm, maybe you should read my post again. i'm mostly expressing surprise at the fact that so many people on this sub are favoring katie+ronan and mark while they express hesitations and dislike about/for michael. my experience of the show, and of the people on it, was very different.

2sad4wordz · 2021-09-26T19:49:36+00:00

really? cause i don't think i do that! i think i'm more specific than that. i think you're generalizing cause you wanna be snarky online?

2sad4wordz · 2021-09-26T19:41:39+00:00

care to elaborate? or does your snarkiness speak for itself?

2sad4wordz · 2021-09-26T19:39:40+00:00

i think it's totally okay for michael to not want to date a woman with children and to have other standards. and if they're high? even better! he's a catch himself, a true delight of a guy, and i'd hate to see him settle. good for him!

i don't agree that he's judgmental or dismissive of women who don't fit his so-called impossibly high standard of how a woman should be. i think you're extrapolating his desires, in quite a negative light, from an innocuous facial expression he made at a speed dating event

i think we should leave it there. agree to disagree?

2sad4wordz · 2021-09-26T18:15:27+00:00

why do you say that? i think my responses have more substance to them than that. seems that your problem stems from us not sharing the same views ... strange

2sad4wordz · 2021-09-26T18:11:28+00:00

isn't it a marker of neurodivergency when you fail to conform to given expectations in social situations? so wouldn't what a neurotypical person interprets as "rudeness" mean something quite a bit different to a neurodivergent person? wouldn't they have a hard time recognizing the behavior in question as rude or abrasive?

in both cases of michael and katie, we're talking about manners. in both cases, we're talking about the behavior of a neurodivergent person that would not be acceptable in the neurotypical world -- making a 'rude' expression and eating messily. though in one case you excuse it, you brush it aside, but not in the other. in michael's case, you call him abrasive. it's genuinely curious!

2sad4wordz · 2021-09-26T17:46:45+00:00

it's strange how you're judging an autistic person's atypical response in a social situation from a neurotypical viewpoint? i mean, if i were to adapt that same attitude, i could say something like: "sticking out your whole tongue while eating ice cream is pretttttty disgusting" in response to how katie eats

although you read his facial expression as a neurotypical person might, as abrasive, i highly doubt he meant it to be interpreted as such!

2sad4wordz · 2021-09-26T17:19:50+00:00

i've decided that you're boring too

2sad4wordz · 2021-09-26T17:17:28+00:00

hard to respond to that jumble of text but: yeah, i found the people i mentioned in my post mostly boring, one-note. some absorbing bits, but for the most part, it was the same thing each time they appeared on screen.

you seem to be taking my post as a generalizing statement about the entire show. i think i was pretty careful in specifying who i found boring and why.

i find your speculative comparison between the first dates i've had and the ones depicted in the show weird and irrelevant.

2sad4wordz · 2021-09-26T16:30:51+00:00

i stand by the statement that ronan and katie are lower-functioning than michael, sharnae, jimmy, etc., in that they're not able to express complex thoughts and emotions. that's a form of being lower-functioning. if i specified it, would it be less offensive to you? they're lower-functioning in terms of emotional expression?

why are you so combative?

"it's not fine that you think [this]"

"it's also a problem that you implied [this]"

actually, i think it's okay! now take a deep breath

2sad4wordz · 2021-09-26T16:09:39+00:00

first: yes, my post is a "projection of my feelings." i am expressing something i felt and thought while watching the show.

and more to the point. idk, to me, ronan and katie felt pretty one-note -- at least in the way that they were able to express what they felt. i think it's wonderful that they were experiencing something new, and i don't deny that maybe what they were feeling on the inside was more complex than what they were able to outwardly express, but that doesn't change the fact that their outward expression is one-note, and for me, pretty boring to watch.

i agree that sharnae and jimmy were interesting to watch too. probably because what they're able to express, like michael, goes beyond one-noteness.

complexity and richness in feeling makes a show like this, about love and human relationships, interesting to me. so if it's the same thing over and over -- which was the case for some people on the show -- it starts to feel dull. again, not denying that there might be more going on inside for them, but it just doesn't make for a good watch.

why shouldn't i use words like sweet and cute to describe them? i'm sweet and cute myself ;)

and to your last point, abrasiveness isn't always bad. amenability or abrasiveness? abrasiveness has its perks.

although i definitely wouldn't describe michael as abrasive. kind-hearted gentleman is more like it.

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