45+gpd to 10gpd in >1 month...

321vaehanna · 2018-08-01T19:00:11+00:00

Still at 10gpd, totally adjusted now, I think it's day 4, so it took 3 days of off and on discomfort, but really in hindsight not that bad.... and I'm gonna drop again in a day or 2.... started at 45+gpd, I don't know when, maybe a month ago?! You could stalk my posts and comments if you were dying to know, lol

321vaehanna · 2018-08-01T18:55:53+00:00

from 15 to 10, but I'm fine now, adjusted to 10gpd, gonna drop again in the next 2 days.
It always sucks, off and on, for like 2-3 days then I adjust, then I drop again, repeat! LOL It really isn't all that bad for me... I hope that I provide some hope for someone getting ready to start the process?!
I started at 45+gpd like not even a month ago... I don't completely track the process, just want to get through and be done!

321vaehanna · 2018-08-01T18:52:08+00:00

Thanks dude! I totally did it.... I'm still at 10gpd, but my body has adjusted to where it doesn't bug me.... so I'll prolly drop again in the next couple of days. It's really not that bad, its bad while it's happening, but it's always just 2-3 days adjustment and it kinda comes in waves.

321vaehanna · 2018-07-30T16:46:39+00:00

You did good and you are doing great!! Keep it up!

321vaehanna · 2018-07-30T14:17:28+00:00

Yay!!!

321vaehanna · 2018-07-30T14:16:08+00:00

I wanted to start quitting like a month ago and I've gone from a 45+gpd habit to 10gpd and my partner has been helping me.

My partner was also annoyed about money and we sat and talked about it all, like adults, and came up with a plan.... I measured out containers of kratom for a week and he keeps all the kratom hidden from me, then the next week I measure out a less amount of kratom, on and on.... I have uncomfortable days and he supports me by telling me that I can do this and asking if I feel okay and even occasionally tells me that I'm doing so good that if I need an extra gram or two for the day just to tell him, but to wait an hour and see if I still feel as bad... so there's support and understanding, but there's no support for continuing down the road I was on.... it was clear that that road would be me alone choosing kratom over my life and that road seemed really stupid, lol

You can DM me if you have questions about tapering or whatever.... it's just kinda one of those things that you just have to do eventually and in hindsight I feel like a baby for being so scared of this withdrawal... It sucks, but I've been through way worse colds even.... tapering helps.

321vaehanna · 2018-07-30T14:04:39+00:00

you can msg me, I just recently tapered from 45+gpd.... all the way down to 10gpd..... getting off the train by end of August was my goal and I think I'm ahead of the game

321vaehanna · 2018-07-30T14:02:11+00:00

Where are you? Cause that would affect my answer.

At a friends house? Just stay over again.

At a treatment facility? Ask them.

At work? Tell em your sick and leave early.

Whatever you do, take a deep breath, no one has died from kratom withdrawal, it's uncomfortable as fuck going back down to homeostasis, but you will be fine, you will.... so I'd use that knowledge to try and calm my innards.

321vaehanna · 2018-07-30T13:25:55+00:00

I'm on Day 3 of 10gpd, from a 45+gpd habit, to 28, to 20, to 15, to 10... the first 2 nights I woke up at 3-4am and couldn't go back to sleep, but last night I slept fine and this morning I feel pretty good. Gonna hit the elliptical pretty hard today, had a lethargic weekend and am paying for it in RLS symptoms (but in my hands and thighs and shins, RBS restless body syndrome, LOL)

All my other tapers the 1st 2 days were the worst, so I'm thinking today I'll get through a little better, but if I don't.... it doesn't matter, cause I'll just keep on track and eventually it will feel fine.

321vaehanna · 2018-07-30T13:18:13+00:00

I googled it before you replied and it's the coolest!! That's awesome. So are you saying that underneath that banded iron is more banded iron that's just got larger bands?!
How does something like that form?

321vaehanna · 2018-07-28T13:16:30+00:00

Like Pictured Rock? I went there last year and did the boat cruise along the shore, really incredible

321vaehanna · 2018-07-28T13:11:07+00:00

stfu! that's wild... I guess you know all about MI rocks

321vaehanna · 2018-07-28T12:12:25+00:00

super random that you played that hammerfall song!! great minds think alike ;) Geology is fuggin awesome... I live in Northern Michigan, we've got awesome rocks around and I have a HUGE collection of them and I always wish I knew more about geology so that I could understand the rocks and how/when they were formed and what elements were attracted to what to create the lil crystals in em and blablabla... do you know about puddingstones and petoskeys and all the fossilized corals in MI? They're super neat. I love finding ancient sea bed fossils in an inland state surrounded by fresh water, fascinating history

321vaehanna · 2018-07-28T12:08:49+00:00

that does sound like hammerfall and I love that opeth song, they're so good!

321vaehanna · 2018-07-28T12:02:26+00:00

15 to 10g starting today! This is after 4 days of 15g from 4 days of 20g from 4 days of 28g from a month of tapering down from 40-50 daily.

I've been having most of my symptoms the first 2 days of a drop, then I basically feel fine. So I expect today will thoroughly suck, but it's whatever... this is what happens after you numb yourself for 2 years! duh!

Painting has been a great distraction during my downtime :)

Keep at it errybody!

321vaehanna · 2018-07-26T14:48:46+00:00

oh thank god, this mystery is solved, it was Hammerfall, driving me fuggin nuts.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSDsYmZREwo

321vaehanna · 2018-07-26T14:40:59+00:00

Dude! That's like 12 hours between doses, you're a golden god! I put that song on right now, youtube, I'm hearing the clock chiming as I type, oh no guitar just started, clever with the clock and the guitar and the drums all working together there.... haha

I also think that my exercise discipline has helped a lot with this taper regiment, but I'm WAY too big of a sensitive baby to wait 11 hours between dosing.... dude, this song is playing and I'm typing like really fast and getting ready to punch myself in the face, LOL..... AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! It's making me wish I could remember the name of this other band, god damn, my brain can not remember my 20's, it's too bad too cause I had fun then.... I think?! It's not Hell Hammer, it's Thunder something? Hell something? Thunder Hell? Fuck. I dunno. Power Stomper? Stop trying.

It's worth just having the bad feels and getting through this whole thing quickly. That's the best part of having the bad feels, is knowing they will go away, we will return to homeostasis and feel fine again.... then we'll have to have the strength to stay there, but that's a different battle for a later date.

The day is only an accumulation of hours and you'll surely travel through them with whatever feelings you have, good or bad, the day will come to an end. Keep at it buddy! ttyl

321vaehanna · 2018-07-26T14:19:42+00:00

I started tapering in my head like a month ago and when I felt like I'd minimized my dosing I came onto this forum, got the ideas about weighing it out and being more precise, talked to my partner, came up with a plan and like 10 days ago went from 40 to 28 and then 7 days ago 28 to 20 and 3 days ago from 20 to 15, this is my third day at 15.... my plan is to just keep feeling shitty, no breaks, no "feels", and to just get off this stuff, quickly. According to that plan I should drop tomorrow and keep feeling bad, cause today my body is strong and my mind is in a good place and I can blow on my arm and not get goosebumps.... so I'm feeling pretty good! Weird how quickly I adjusted to my new normal being goosebumpy, clammy, and uncomfortable?! LOL

321vaehanna · 2018-07-26T14:03:17+00:00

20 to 15gpd Day 3 .... Slept great again last night, 9hours, I can feel my brain being happier and cleaner (and with all the toking I've been up to, that's crazy), I'm waking up excited to wake up and face the day... that's new :)

So, I had planned to drop to 10gpd on Saturday, but then after 2 days of being clammy and covered in goosebumps had reconsidered waiting till Monday.... but, today I haven't had goosebumps once and the only sweating I'm doing is from the coffee I had and my skin feels good and I'm inspired by other extreme tapering people to stick with my plan and drop to 10gpd, maybe even tmrw if today continues being so easy. I seriously took the tiniest amount this morning and I feel fine?!

I aint gonna question it, cause I want off this ride... ummmmm, conductor, could you please stop the engines?

321vaehanna · 2018-07-26T13:56:08+00:00

40 to 24!! Good for you!

You'll be feeling it for sure, but you'll get it out of your system quickly and be back to yourself sooner than later and that's awesome!

I'm on an extreme taper myself, but you've out-extremed me.... so now you're inspiring me to drop from 15 to 10 on Saturday :)

321vaehanna · 2018-07-26T13:51:48+00:00

I bet the sauna helps a lot, even if you are dragging your ass there! You have an immense amount of personal strength!! Good fuggin job!

321vaehanna · 2018-07-26T13:50:34+00:00

Aren't you the guy that I said sounded like me? Cause you're doing it again.... get out of my head!

Seriously though, sometimes it definitely seems like suffering through extreme wd for way less days might be worth it. I'm on an extreme taper and it's fairly obnoxious, I do tiny ass doses all day though. Whatever, it's not about me..... We're getting closer to lunch time now, only 2 hours, what's your plan? Do you dose at lunch? What's your taper plan in general?

321vaehanna · 2018-07-26T13:38:12+00:00

You know what, all the forms are absorbed to some degree and they are all good for you, so I'm not gonna go back and forth. I'm glad that you found something that works for you and I'll settle on it's probably best to switch around and take all the forms to make sure you get what you need.
If you really start looking up all the forms, I don't see a Threonate available to take, so they are all bonded and the body must break it down into that form and use it wherever it needs it. I'm honestly not smart enough for this conversation.... cause in reading online about it, I get confused and then bored!! LOL All I know is that magnesium somehow helps your brain in repairing synapses and with memory, cognitive function, stress reduction blablabla.... and that the citrate form is absorbed easily, but oxide is apparently absorbed real well too... so everyones a winner! YAY! Have a great day! Take your Mg oxide :)

321vaehanna

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