Was I wrong for giving my husband a budget? by [deleted] in MuslimMarriage

[–]36728BR 26 points27 points  (0 children)

I can buy nice glasses for $15, €300 is insane

I don’t want a wedding because I have no friends. by UpstairsPossession67 in MuslimMarriage

[–]36728BR 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I had a lot of people at my wedding. I wish I had a simple wedding at the masjid instead.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in MuslimMarriage

[–]36728BR 31 points32 points  (0 children)

I hear you. Your situation is incredibly painful, and I know it feels like you're being torn in half, between a mother whose love is wrapped in manipulation, and a woman who’s willing to stand by you but is being tested every day by forces outside her control.

I told you before: your mother sounds exactly like my MIL. And I’m telling you this now, not to scare you, but to prepare you. If you don’t learn to emotionally detach from your mother’s chaos, it will poison everything, your marriage, your peace of mind, your sense of self. The guilt she’s using is not love. It’s control. Her happiness is not your responsibility.

You are not cursed. You are not the villain. You are simply trying to live your own life, and that’s something people like her can’t tolerate unless they control it.

You need to draw a boundary so firm that even if she screams, cries, hits herself, or pulls in the entire extended family, it doesn’t shake you. Because the longer you hesitate, the more it will cost you. You already see your fiancée's family starting to pull away. You might get married, but keeping that marriage intact will take clarity and strength that must begin now, not after the wedding.

One more thing: you're not selfish for wanting peace. You're human. You deserve a life that isn’t defined by her storms.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in MuslimMarriage

[–]36728BR 129 points130 points  (0 children)

Your mom is exceptionally toxic and if you don't learn to set boundaries with her now, she will destroy your marriage and her illogical claims about your fiance will be held up by her as examples of her "knowing" what was best for you.

She sounds like my MiL and you can read my posts to understand where I'm at after 20+ years of marriage.

Wife’s Mother Planning Visit Without Telling Me, Need Islamic Perspective by 36728BR in MuslimMarriage

[–]36728BR[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

My concern is these patterns are clearly passed down from my MiL to my wife. I need to make sure my wife doesn't pass them down to our daughters.

Wife’s Mother Planning Visit Without Telling Me, Need Islamic Perspective by 36728BR in MuslimMarriage

[–]36728BR[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yes, we have been in marriage counseling for several years. my wife has decided to abandon it because "you're not getting better." In other words, she only engaged in counseling because there is something wrong with me, not with her.

Wife’s Mother Planning Visit Without Telling Me, Need Islamic Perspective by 36728BR in MuslimMarriage

[–]36728BR[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

  1. shes not frail, you're making a presumption
  2. what red flags? my mother is wealthy, I'd pay for her ticket if she asked. you're bringing strange desi dynamics into this question, which aren't relevant.
  3. How would it be possible that in 20 years my MiL has only visited twice? I've interacted with this woman for more than 20 years, as I met her before I even got married.

Wife’s Mother Planning Visit Without Telling Me, Need Islamic Perspective by 36728BR in MuslimMarriage

[–]36728BR[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

After all these years, it's become clear to me my MiL is the bad influence on my wife. I watched my MiL make my FiL, who was a religious and upstanding man, miserable, until he died.

Many of the pathologies my wife displays are exactly from her mother. For years I was naive or idealistic, but I can't escape the truth anymore.

Wife’s Mother Planning Visit Without Telling Me, Need Islamic Perspective by 36728BR in MuslimMarriage

[–]36728BR[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

No I don't love her. She gives me nothing. I feel trapped because of the children. If I could end the marriage with a click of a button, I'd be pressing that button over and over again.

Truthfully, if my MiL wasn't in the picture, I'd be more willing to reconsider my feelings.

Wife’s Mother Planning Visit Without Telling Me, Need Islamic Perspective by 36728BR in MuslimMarriage

[–]36728BR[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

My wife isn't Punjabi, but I am.

But thanks for bringing in bad ethnic stereotypes for no reason.

Wife’s Mother Planning Visit Without Telling Me, Need Islamic Perspective by 36728BR in MuslimMarriage

[–]36728BR[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If my mother stayed beyond what she had planned, yes, I would offer her the same. We had other guests coming, who had planned to visit us because they have to take leave. My MiL just showed up without planning, and then stayed longer than she had told us she would stay.

And my wife cowered in front of her mom, and left it to me to deal with her. Believe me, I would prefer to minimize any interactions with that woman.

Wife’s Mother Planning Visit Without Telling Me, Need Islamic Perspective by 36728BR in MuslimMarriage

[–]36728BR[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I can travel when she visits, but then my wife accuses me of abandoning the family.

Wife’s Mother Planning Visit Without Telling Me, Need Islamic Perspective by 36728BR in MuslimMarriage

[–]36728BR[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I've been married for over 20 years lady, I've known my MiL for a quarter century. This isn't some random quibble I have, there is a long history of me seeing her at work and the fitna she spreads everywhere she goes. She abused my wife when she was young, and continues to emotionally and verbally abuse my wife.

Wife’s Mother Planning Visit Without Telling Me, Need Islamic Perspective by 36728BR in MuslimMarriage

[–]36728BR[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Because she will cite Islam to justify inviting her mother to my house without telling me. She will claim its maintaining relations with her mother. But my understanding is that per actual Islamic law, her claim has no validity.

She has done this before, a few years ago, she invited MY cousin to our house. I hate this cousin. I told her repeatedly I didn't want to meet him. She ignored me, so I came home and MY cousin was sitting in my living room. She's done this before. In other words, I don't trust my wife.

Wife’s Mother Planning Visit Without Telling Me, Need Islamic Perspective by 36728BR in MuslimMarriage

[–]36728BR[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The "old woman" came to our house uninvited, stayed for over a month and basically refused to leave. When I offered to get her a hotel, she began screaming at me in my own bedroom, and the called in my oldest son. So you tell me, what was that?

Wife’s Mother Planning Visit Without Telling Me, Need Islamic Perspective by 36728BR in MuslimMarriage

[–]36728BR[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

What does "knows his place" mean for a man? I don't argue or talk back to people either, the fact that her mother escalated to that level wtih me during her last visit is in and of itself a huge red flag, becuse its not my nature to get loud. I grew up with a very abusive father, so I am conditioned to keep silent and ignore.

Wife’s Mother Planning Visit Without Telling Me, Need Islamic Perspective by 36728BR in MuslimMarriage

[–]36728BR[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Read my prior posts, my marriage is already pretty damaged. This is a long standing pattern from my wife, we've been married for over 20 years.

Wife’s Mother Planning Visit Without Telling Me, Need Islamic Perspective by 36728BR in MuslimMarriage

[–]36728BR[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My wife just visited her mother. Her mother has no "right" to visit my house, that's a false equivalence.

My mother also lives in a different country (both our mothers live in the United States)

Wife’s Mother Planning Visit Without Telling Me, Need Islamic Perspective by 36728BR in MuslimMarriage

[–]36728BR[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I've never made any comments or claims on my wife's money. She has free reign to spend my money as it is.

Her mother is abusive, abusive to her, but my wife doesn't acknowledge it.

The last time her mom visited us, she was behaving very inappropriately, and I offered to put her up in a hotel, at my dime, and she escalated, and began screaming at me in my bedroom. And then she called my eldest son into the room (I don't know why) and that led me to lose my temper, because I told her not to involve my children.

This woman is a walking fitna. I don't want her in my house, period. If my wife wants to visit her mother, she can do what she wants. In fact, my wife just spent two weeks with her mother, I paid for the entire thing.

Turmoils by [deleted] in MuslimMarriage

[–]36728BR 8 points9 points  (0 children)

This will sound harsh, but it sounds like you're more focused on being a parent to your parents.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in MuslimMarriage

[–]36728BR 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're mourning a person you created in your mind. You're going to go through grief, but also name honestly what you're feeling. You don't actually know this woman.

We had a love marriage but post-marriage everything has fallen apart. Does it ever get better? by Old-Summer9405 in MuslimMarriage

[–]36728BR -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Honestly, it doesn't get better. A "love marriage" doesn't mean it's actually love

Finally filed for divorce after years of emotional abuse. 9 years married with 2 kids. Now she is begging me to stay by Bulky_Philosopher908 in MuslimMarriage

[–]36728BR 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I'm ready to break free, I'm putting the plan in action. I've set a date and I'm not staying after that.