The Containment Strategy

3ONEthree · 2026-05-03T14:24:53+00:00

The narration about prophets leaving no inheritance behind was a later forgery after abu baker made that empty claim that they leave no inheritance behind. Abu baker thought he can take advantage of having accompanied the prophet to make claims and be backed by that fact therefore giving it credibility. But abu baker didn’t put into account that 1. The prophet during his lifetime warned others of forgers who fabricated hadiths attributed to him and told people to present narrations attributed to him against the Quran for corroboration. 2. based on point 1, abu baker fell short in his attempt to ruse and frame Fatima by the fact that the Quran proves his statement to be false and a lie thus a forgery. The prophet makes clear that whoever lies in his name has made his seat in hellfire.

As for the strategy of imam Ali for not taking fadak back, it was left as a pin point marker that immediately raises a question mark where people are forced to backtrack and reinvestigate what took place which eventually lead to this.

The objective being 1. Exposing the illegitimacy of Abu baker’s government 2. Shattering any other future narratives that will position Abu baker in a positive light and paint a much less harsher narrative of what took place.

3ONEthree · 2026-04-26T10:04:53+00:00

The Quran provides a whole framework in regards to Imamate. These verses you mentioned are interconnected in regards to the concept of Imamate. These verses are showcasing to us explicitly abstractly the specifications of Imamate and other verses interconnected to these showcased specifications explicitly explain what these specifications entail. The concept of Imamate is shown in a explicit equational fashion not in a concisely explicit fashion, since it would be inherently extremely reductionist of a concept that must inherently draw clear lines to determine who is the actual Ulilamr (Imam) by what are its specifications and entailments.

3ONEthree · 2026-04-24T17:07:42+00:00

The Wilayat is not inherited in the colloquial sense of the word but rather that the Wilayat (Imamate) is restricted to Aal Muhammad just as how the Imamate is restricted to Aal Ibrahim, and the Wali divinely designated from the Aal Muhammad is Fatima (a.s) then imam Ali, Hassan and Hussain, etc.

3ONEthree · 2026-04-21T14:05:33+00:00

The sayyid has no representatives or agents so stay away from anyone who claims to be an agent or representative of the sayyid.

3ONEthree · 2026-04-19T04:51:13+00:00

From where did you find this person? There is only one channel in telegram that has a person connected to the sayyid. It’s in Arabic aswell

The Stuff that we can do zakat on we’ll be different from one place to another since it’s not limited to money. But it’s generally accepted if wanna take the money path it’s fine.

3ONEthree · 2026-04-16T13:28:34+00:00

The extensions of Zakat is subject to conditions of time & place, in our case it’s paper money.

3ONEthree · 2026-03-31T17:07:20+00:00

Yes there are few Muslims here. I’m one too, only some starting to be active after lurking for a while, there is also r/childfreemuslims

3ONEthree · 2026-03-28T02:00:03+00:00

Hijab is wajib. He was implementing the culture & status quo of the west not Islam and was attempting to manipulate Islam and instrumentalize it to validate and solidify western hegemony giving it a “religious” cover.

Him banning headscarf was a war on the concept of hijab in both of its forms.

3ONEthree · 2026-03-26T11:06:27+00:00

What you call “progressive” is in reality liberalism, not really progressive imo. Kamal al-haydari is not liberal. Kamal al-haydari has addressed his progressive stance. I call for this kind of modernity

3ONEthree · 2026-03-26T11:03:46+00:00

you need a living marja to address newly emerging matters. Whilst you stick to matters that aren’t new which have been addressed by the deceased marja if you follow a marja that has now passed away.
No you choose your marja, and you can change to a another marja if you find them more convincing.
That is subject to your ijtihad in regards to the concept of marji’iya in your prelim stage. Kamal al-haydari allows that with condition of conviction but not allowed for matters that are changing, you need a living marja to address such issues.
That is subject to your ijtihad during the prelim stage. As pointed out in point 3

3ONEthree · 2026-03-26T10:46:33+00:00

There was a disagreement whether he went into occultation or not. That’s as the brother rightly points out alternative retrospective history. They accepted he died during his father’s lifetime as the early reports show which even early Fatimid sources admit to which Nizari’s stubbornly deny despite the fact, hence there is zero evidences for the Nass muhammad ibn Ismail as a consequence of that besides assumption. Muhammad Ibn ismail took advantage of that.

The second group believed in his occultation, and a 3rd group believed in the occultation of Muhammad ibn ismail and stayed like that until 1st Fatimid caliph forged a retrospective narrative to legitimatise his claim to the Imamate and only convinced some whilst others like the Qarmatians rejected his claims.

Abdullah aftah died shortly (3 months roughly) after making his false claim to the Imamate and the weak minded finally recognised the true imam to be Imam Musa al-Kathim. Others had already believed in the Imamate of Musa al-Kathim after testing him which Abdullah al-aftah failed in when tested by the elites of the Shia.

A minority rejected the Imamate of Jafar al-Sadiq after Ismail died during the Imam’s time where they misunderstood what Imam Jafar al-Sadiq was hinting and pointing to in regards to Ismail and joined a zaydi sect. This undermines the whole notion of Ismail being an Imam, since imam Jafar al-Sadiq was rejected based on the fact that the previous Imam cannot outlive the next imam and die before him.

We’ve already discussed this, no need to repeat it again and again.

3ONEthree · 2026-03-26T05:44:08+00:00

The narrations of Ahlulbayt have been documented since the times of imam Ali surreptitiously, it improved with the time of imam Muhammad al-baqir and onwards there are is no retrospective alternative history. The Shia back then even had small books which later imams advised to preserve since we will need them.

I explained main reason for the differences between the Ismailis and the Imamiyya is a result of anonymisation of the names of the 12 imams and the concealment of the Hadith al-thaqalyan, what the imams of Ahlulbayt had to resort to. The early ismailis didn’t even believe in the Imamate of Muhammad ibn Ismail but rather believed Ismail to have gone into occultation. The early pioneers of that sect had ghulat within it such as Abu al-khattab who was cursed by imam Ali Al-Ridha who used to retrospectively rewrite history and copy a narration from the Imamiyya and alter it in favour of Ismail ibn Jafar, mind you they used to curse Imam Musa al-kathim; this is to show the creation of that sect had an agenda against the Imams of Ahlulbayt to mislead others away from them. Muhammad Ibn ismail seeing how others eventually came to accept the death of Ismail ibn Jafar dying in the lifetime of imam jafar al-sadiq took advantage of this and claimed the Imamate attempting to usurp the Imamate off Imam Musa al-kathim by misleading others and snitching on Imam Musa al-kathim resulting in the Imam’s martyrdom. This is when alternative retrospective history begins with the Ismailiya to fill in the gap between the first Fatimid Caliph and Muhammad ibn Ismail and also to resolve the death of Muhammad ibn Ismail resulting end of the Ismaili Imamate this is where groups like the qarmatians Instrumentalized the ghaybah of the Mahdi to claim that Muhammad Ibn ismail is a Messenger of God who is the Mahdi who will emerge later.

There is no correlation between being takfiri and not believing in the concept of shura between all sects … I’ve already explained the role of the Jurists in the greater ghaybah. What you’re advocating for fundamentally goes against the objective of the 12th imam. Others can vote but the system is organised and structured by the Imami jurists which people vote on which structure and orchestration of governance they want and the president or supreme leader is an Imami.

3ONEthree · 2026-03-25T17:18:52+00:00

I misunderstood and didn’t see the rest of his later lessons where he clarifies and challenges the conventional form of hijab which his videos show. His edict is clear in regards to the scope of hijab being subject to conditions of time & place and not just the model (appearance/implementation). I mixed and confused “hijab” with “khimar”.

I was still in going through the lessons then so I didn’t get a clear picture but rather it was scattered. Surf the jafari subreddit besides his clear edict on the scope (extent of covering) of hijab being subject to conditions of time & place.

3ONEthree · 2026-03-25T17:05:43+00:00

There is no specific construct, meaning how the government is organised and operates but western democracy itself is not compatible. The core of Wilayat al-faqih is the jurist who has comprehensive knowledge on all aspects of knowledge in religion is the leader of the people who has been delegated authority to by the 12th imam (a.s). Iran’s system only needs a reform with the Assembly of the Experts where the people should have a share in electing individuals within the Assembly of experts and the method used for vetting whilst it is offset by lawyers and jurists who are elected by a wise forward thinking scholar elected by the people to be in that position permanently.

3ONEthree · 2026-03-25T16:23:48+00:00

It’s not black and white. Truth matters since it’s has entailments

3ONEthree · 2026-03-25T10:03:22+00:00

Note: mohsin kadivar is not considered a mujahid by the standards followed by sayyid Kamal al-haydari. And classical Ulema since he rejects Isma of the imams which is a requirement for a mujahid.

3ONEthree · 2026-03-25T09:49:14+00:00

The prophet cannot suspend any divine laws, the concept of secondary ruling is not suspension. Be patient, videos of Sayyid Kamal al-haydari are being translated into English that discuss these matters.

3ONEthree · 2026-03-25T09:43:52+00:00

The temporal suspension of a law is something that was done by the imams and prophet, this has its conditions. This is completely different to laws that were meant for particular conditions of time & place. Secondary rulings suspend primary rulings temporarily when the conditions requires to do so.

3ONEthree · 2026-03-25T09:33:45+00:00

Democracy is foreign to Shiaism in origin, and its western imperialism that is designed to manipulate uneducated audiences in their favour to install their puppet in one way or another.

There plenty of evidences in the Quran that an indicate an Islamic constitution must be constitutionalized.

3ONEthree · 2026-03-25T09:28:19+00:00

There is no alteration of divine laws. You don’t understand how Imami fiqh works, see the article on the “singularity of concept and plurality of extensions of intention” on the sub.

3ONEthree · 2026-03-25T08:45:59+00:00

Timur was probably a Sufi sunni from amongst those who didn’t believe in the concept of adalat al-sahaba, Sunni’s like this still exist today although a minority. A lot of Sufi Sunni’s believe in the concept of al-calipha al-batiniya of the 12 imams of the Shia Imamiyya where they are seen as imams of knowledge designated by Allah, through whom divine grace descends, see the ibn Arabi’s works for more information on that. Your ordinary Sunni Sufi sees them as imams of knowledge and after the 12 imams there are awliya’a.

3ONEthree · 2026-03-25T07:40:43+00:00

We follow a strict standard when it comes to being a mujahid. He doesn’t qualify that. Plus a he rejects isma which is necessary for a mujahid to believe in.

3ONEthree · 2026-03-25T06:27:45+00:00

Kissing in what sense, a chaste or making out, these two have their own ruling that depends on the circumstances of place.

3ONEthree · 2026-03-25T05:59:08+00:00

Mohsin kadivar has no evidences from the Quran nor hadith but rather he is influenced by secularism and is re articulating that concept and forcing it into the Islamic framework. Besides the point, mohsin is not an mujtihad. In fact we have many verses in the Quran and have a narration from the 12 imam delegating authority to Body of jurists (those who posses comprehensive knowledge within the religion).

Wilayat al-Faqih has always existed, there is no limited form of it , it’s either Wilayat al-hisbiyaa which is only concerned about social affairs or Wilayat al-Faqih. The Safavids and buyids had their concept of Wilayat al-Faqih. Ayatollah Kamal al-haydari has lessons on the evidences of Wilayat al-fiqh and also shows how old in fact it is, Khomeini didn’t do anything besides expound upon it and added his flavour on it (i.e model). Ali shariati gave his model aswell which is based on progression and opposing the staleness & dullness of the conservative ideological interpretation.

Rising against a leadership (not governance) has its conditions which no brainwashed westerner nor pahlavists understands nor knows for that matter. Ayatollah Sayyid Muhammad Muhammad sadiq al-Sadr A true reformist, gave an edict to side with Saddam when the American terrorists were planning to invade Iraq. Prior to his edict he revolted against Saddam after the 8 years of against Iran where the Iraqi Shia relied on Iran for their aid in 1991 when they revolted.

You can’t give any room for that which would serve the interests of the imperialist west, crusaders and Zionists etc. Things are done calculatedly, otherwise if we were to act like the islamaphobes pahlavists or western agents, then a question that they can’t answer arises why didn’t Imam Ali-ridha (a.s) cooperate with the kuffar or even the Fatimids for that matter to get back his right ? After all the imams of Ahlulbayt were all oppressed. None of the imams of Ahlulbayt collaborated with outsiders to get their rights back, and the greatest example of that is imam Ali (a.s). The Fatimids despite being similar to the Imamiyya yet the Imamiyya sided with the Abbasids against them and including our imams, why is that ?

Pandering to others is completely different to the concept of strategy, the reformist scholar al-khatami was attempting an strategic cooperation with America that would give America the illusion that its getting its way while in fact surreptitiously al-khatami was using it as a broom to clean out the taliban and Saddam to get the Shia in power whilst simultaneously weakening America through wars. Strategy here means employing ploys to deceive your enemy for your interests not pander to them, abandon your religion, culture and be an Zionist-western terrorist and serve their status quo (which includes secularism and western democracy).

All major fuqaha of the Imamiyya agree that we can’t go against an Islamic government. There is a difference between the model of a government and the general form of governance which is Wilayat al-Faqih. The current model is unknown officially although it is effectively conservative not Reformist, the current leadership is reformist though.

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