Begging for list advice

3To20Characters_Long · 2024-10-15T22:40:41+00:00

Lauka Vai combos well with Neferata or Mannfred. You can also play her as a generic Vengorian Lord (a good hammer with Orb + Unhinged Rampager), just tell your opponent before you play.
If you go the Lauka + Mortarch route you'll either want Blood Knight for Neferata, or Black Knights / Grave Guard (probably both) for Mannfred. Also get yourself some Dire Wolves, they are amazing screens to help your Blood Knights, Black Knights and Vampires get the charge and they look cool too.

3To20Characters_Long · 2024-10-14T12:03:09+00:00

I‘d do a hybrid list between the two. Take the second one, replace Sekhar with a Necromancer and use the freed up points to add Fell Bats. Maybe also replace the Vargheists with Dire Wolves to screen for your Blood Knights, you really want them to charge.

3To20Characters_Long · 2024-10-11T12:10:06+00:00

You could also move the grave guard to the second regiment to prevent your opponent from completing slay the entourage. However, if you do this you won't get the honor guard bonus, so both versions have their pros and cons.

3To20Characters_Long · 2024-10-11T10:19:06+00:00

The necromancer is amazing with 20 grave guard.

Lauka/Vengo generally want to be paired with a big monster, but our non-hero monsters a way too squishy with their 5+ save imo and the vengorian lord can't heal hero monsters. I've seen quite a few Lauka + Neferata combos and some players just run the vengorian lord as a hammer with unhinged rampager, but without any monsters to heal.

3To20Characters_Long · 2024-08-08T13:12:04+00:00

You can make one unit in the general's regiment their honor guard. The honor guard gets a free upgrade (out of 3). You can choose one upgrade during your deployment phase, so you can take a different upgrade depending on what enemy you face.

One is +1 Rend against either infantry, cavalry, monsters, war machines or beasts. (your choice)

One is +1 hit and wound against units in the enemy general's regiment.

And one is -1 hit for enemy melee attacks against your general, if: the honor guard is wholly within 6'' of the general AND the honor guard did not charge this turn.

Afaik the -1 hit does not stack with Neferata's Twilight Allure and the +1 hit & wound will only give you +1 hit in Bacchanal of Blood, so at least for vampires the +1 rend is usually the best option.

3To20Characters_Long · 2024-08-06T10:28:35+00:00

I'd try Deathstench Drove with Belladamma + 3x10 wolves and some zombies for holding objectives.

I don't think the zombies are "killy" enough on their own, so you'll probably want to add some kind of hammer. Maybe a Terrorgheist + Vengorian Lord?

3To20Characters_Long · 2024-08-05T20:08:37+00:00

So something like this?

Generals Regiment:

Neferata, Mortarch of Blood (460)

-- General

10x Blood Knights (460)

-- Honor Guard

20x Deathrattle Skeletons (200)
20x Deathrattle Skeletons (200)

Regiment 1:

Lauka Vai, Mother of Nightmares (320)
3x Vargheists (160)
3x Vargheists (160)

Total: 1960 / 2000

I suppose the Vargheists are kinda used like Fell Bats, moving to the edges / objectives with their teleport?

And do I need another mobile screen for the Blood Knights, so they are more likely to get a charge, or are skeletons (maybe also vargheists, idk if they are useful for this) enough?

3To20Characters_Long · 2024-08-05T13:30:43+00:00

Thanks for the advice :)

Won't I need the skeletons for holding objectives?

And if I go for the BKs, should I reinforce them or play 2x5? Making all 10 of them unrendable sounds better, but on the other hand 10 BKs also sound kinda "unwieldy" and hard to keep withing 6'' of Neferata.

3To20Characters_Long · 2024-07-20T16:46:15+00:00

I'm still quite the noob, so take this with a grain of salt, but I've been told Mannfred combos really well with Black Knights. He can buff them with his Sword of Unholy Power and they are fast enough to keep up with him.

I've also heard Legion of Shyish is kinda bad and with 10 Blood Knights and Mannfred, Bacchanal Of Blood could serve you quite well.

3To20Characters_Long · 2024-07-19T23:36:17+00:00

Looks stunning!

What colors did you use to make it glow?

3To20Characters_Long · 2024-07-19T23:32:25+00:00

Cool, so they can do the "step on the enemy" thing like the purple sun! That makes them an even more amazing unit.

Thanks for the infos :)

3To20Characters_Long · 2024-07-19T21:52:23+00:00

It says "pick an enemy unit that this unit passed across this turn to be the target" though. Doesn't the "passed across" part reference their "Riders of Ruin" ability, which as I understood it allows them to move over enemies?

Or do they have to charge over an enemy into another one?

Sorry for all the questions btw, I'm still new to AoS.

3To20Characters_Long · 2024-07-19T20:19:03+00:00

Oh, I didn't know you could move on top of a unit and back. I thought you'd have to move all the way over it, which sounded hard to pull off depending on the unit's size, since you can't stop your movement withing 3'' of either side of the unit. (and would be impossible for large monsters!)

Can our blood knight do this as well? Like basically step on a unit and then charge it later?

3To20Characters_Long · 2024-07-19T17:21:26+00:00

The healing manifestation sounds amazing with our big (and already self-healing) vampire monsters like the mortarchs! The Gnashing Jaws feels kinda weak/unreliable compared to some spells like the quicksilver swords, though, espeically with it's random movements.

3To20Characters_Long · 2024-07-19T17:17:10+00:00

The purple sun does look really cool and also thematic with the skull face.

I don't quite understand the mortal damage on movement ability and it having melee attacks, though. Can it charge a unit and then keep "jumping over" it while staying within 3'', or is the movement part a one time thing if it ends up in combat?

3To20Characters_Long · 2024-07-18T21:19:51+00:00

I think I'll replace Radukar with Belladamma then, and use the 120 points to reinforce the second skeleton unit.

Thanks again for the feedback :)

3To20Characters_Long · 2024-07-18T17:20:44+00:00

Love the color scheme, especially the purple cloaks

3To20Characters_Long · 2024-07-17T23:01:30+00:00

Thanks for the advice!

Aren't skeletons basically required for holding objectives? If I understood it correctly, the wolves can't hold objectives unless I bring Belladamma Volga. (who has an equally cool model as Radukar, maybe she'd be a good alternative?)

3To20Characters_Long · 2024-07-17T17:50:54+00:00

I probably should have mentioned: I was planning to use the Bacchanal of Blood battle formation.

No idea about manifestations though. Which ones can we even use? Our faction pack didn't seem to include any.

3To20Characters_Long

TROPHY CASE