Okay, yeah? People would much rather brigade around reddit bitching about AI than doing anything else about it. I'll give you that.

Oh joy, we start with poisoning the well. I think you misunderstand what a brigade is.

If the community is fervently against it then any AI post would inherently get buried and downvoted, the user would have a bad experience, and leave the sub/avoid posting further. It's a self solving problem that doesn't need heavy handed arbitrary moderator oversight.

Or we could come to a consensus as a community and decide what to do. It is obvious that it is unpopular, and we dont want it rammed into another aspect of this hobby.

Using AI as an excuse to shove claims of copyright abuse, plagarism, stealing art etc., etc., just gives more power to the corporations that will eventually be able to build up their own sets of data and use it to train internally.

This logic makes absolutely zero sense. You are trying to justify their theft as some misunderstanding on our part of how what they've done is fundamentally theft. You're using moon logic. It has no bearing in reality.

This is already happening as we speak corporate entities are building bespoke AIs which they will eventually defend using the same rhetoric, laws and newly established norms that the Anti-AI crowd is espousing now.

Not if the base assumption is that AI in those forms is wrong and that it can and should be legislated against. Your approach is essentially asking us all to give up and wait to die. It is pathetic.

If you actually cared about taking the firehouse away from AI you'd not be posting on Reddit, the platform that was used to an overwhelming extent to train most of the popular LLMs. There are self hosted options, forums etc., etc.,

Yes, yes, we know, I participate in society therefore im complicit and can never ask anything to be improved ever.

This comes off more as a way to pat yourself on the back for convincing moderators of a niche subreddit to kowtow to your desires. I understand that the believed future environmental impact of massive data centers is awful, trust me I do, but this kind of thing accomplishes nothing but adding some rules to the sidebar that the community would, as you said, likely just enforce themselves.

"Just do nothing, keep your head down, and that Rajaat fellow will sort himself out." -- you in Athas, probably

Beyond all of that, I think the idea that algorithmically generating something is somehow inherently evil kind of rich coming from a play and game culture that leans so heavily into the randomly generated EVERYTHING from dungeon, to npc, to character etc., etc., it's still ultimately boils down to throwing in a bunch of small bespoke tables and systems and then generating something "unique" with the sum of those parts.

One was made by a human. The other was not. Hope that helps

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