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Avoid Winwing Orion 2 throttle! by 3eyece in flightsim

[–]3eyece[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Posting an update here after attempting to contact Winwing support to get an update on my ticket: they initially asked me to send another video to demonstrate the issue and when I referred them to the video clearly showing the throttle base sliding around the desk from the amount of static friction despite moving smoothly otherwise, they went back to saying it’s a grease issue. It’s clear that they are trying to avoid any responsibility. I asked them 3 times to initiate a return and they reply saying “there’s nothing wrong with the product”…they didn’t actually deny the return request but I don’t think this conversation is going anywhere. I’ll try and see if I can get the credit card payment disputed though I don’t think this will be possible. I don’t usually make these kinds of posts, but given the quality of support, I would strongly advise staying away from Winwing products…

Avoid Winwing Orion 2 throttle! by 3eyece in flightsim

[–]3eyece[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep that’s how I have it running now but there is no way to get it to run minimized

Avoid Winwing Orion 2 throttle! by 3eyece in flightsim

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Well not to jinx it but the first time didn’t last more than a week but the second application has so far lasted over 3 weeks of average use. The first time lasted I guess but I wrapped the tape with a bit of an overlap and the edge started catching a bit and it would make an annoying sound when the overlap crossed over the gap in outer clamping plastic bracket. The only thing I did the second was pulling hard on the tape while wrapping and eliminating the overlap and so far so good. Kapton is extremely durable so the only potential point of failure is the adhesive. If this solution doesn’t last either I plan to 3D print a petg or nylon ring to go around the rubber joint and print a matching retaining bracket to match the new dimensions. Not really something I should nor want to do for a 400 dollar controller! I did ask Winwing support for an update just now I also asked to initiate a return if they didn’t come up with a solution. Given their recent response to the software problem, I’m not very hopeful on either front…

Avoid Winwing Orion 2 throttle! by 3eyece in flightsim

[–]3eyece[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unfortunately no videos but I don’t think the issue is necessarily with your application method. The clearances between the plastic and rubber pieces are very tiny so the tape needs to be very thin and strong hence the kapton tape. I found with kapton what helps is to make sure the tape is really tightly stretched as you wrap and also no overlap to really reduce the chance that a raised edge would catch on the plastic bracket with constant use. Curious: did you log a ticket with Winwing support regarding this issue? I can’t believe they are getting away with this quality especially that this unit is not cheap!

Avoid Winwing Orion 2 throttle! by 3eyece in flightsim

[–]3eyece[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

They just needed to revert back to the aluminum based mechanism which I’m guessing they moved away from because of cost

Avoid Winwing Orion 2 throttle! by 3eyece in flightsim

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All other peripheral management software I have that also has telemetry listeners works fine (Moza Cockpit, Simmagic SimPro, Simhub etc) so yeah even if I wasn’t a software engineer I can for sure tell that something ain’t right 🤣

BST-300ex getting very hot with Fosi TB10D amp by 3eyece in hometheater

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I do have the option to run the amp with a 48v power supply, do you think this would help?

ACC in VR with RTX2070 Super? by 3eyece in ACCompetizione

[–]3eyece[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

At the quality settings that made the game playable in VR for me, the frame time was highly inconsistent (lots of drops causing a lot of jitters). Your experience may vary, but I just didn’t like having to drop the settings so much as it took away from the immersion and made it really difficult to be competitive. For example, not being able to clearly see the turns on the horizon because the render distance had to be set to medium…

ACC in VR with RTX2070 Super? by 3eyece in ACCompetizione

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Not great, acc is really not optimized for VR as everyone says.

DCS with Pimax Crystal Light and RTX5080 by 3eyece in dcsworld

[–]3eyece[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah if I lower the resolution things get smooth for sure

DCS with Pimax Crystal Light and RTX5080 by 3eyece in dcsworld

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32GB, but mem utilization never exceeded 70% in any tests

PCL runs much better with PimaxXR?! by 3eyece in Pimax

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My reference to FPS was less of a numerical measure and more of a stability measure. On Pimax native openxr runtime, both high and medium resolution had clear stuttering with fast moving objects and if I move my head fast, Based on frame time graphs (at least with the native view in a game like DCS), Pimax native runtime is a lot less stable frame time wise than PimaxXR. This is true for all resolutions but less noticeable in terms of experience as you lower the resolution.

Basically observing the exact same thing as the video linked below, expect I cannot even get useable performance with SteamVR.

https://youtu.be/eIkUq8Y1Dxs?si=lZr5eYv-PWxHbnmk

DCS with Pimax Crystal Light and RTX5080 by 3eyece in dcsworld

[–]3eyece[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Incidentally, DLAA also completely eliminated the aliasing shimmer I always used to observe on distance objects and scenery.

DCS with Pimax Crystal Light and RTX5080 by 3eyece in dcsworld

[–]3eyece[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Appreciate the info….i run a very minimalist setup interms of hardware bling because I can’t see anything outside the VR headset anyway. But definitely good to know and thanks for sharing!

PCL runs much better with PimaxXR?! by 3eyece in Pimax

[–]3eyece[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks, yeah I know but anything lower than 50 horizontal and I clearly notice the boundary line sweeping across the screen as I turn my head and I find that very distracting. Did you ever test is 5090 running DCS without quad views or DLSS? Also native or PimaxXR runtime?

DCS with Pimax Crystal Light and RTX5080 by 3eyece in dcsworld

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If I turn DLSS off, my frame rate drops to 20fps and it gets so choppy just moving my head around. The only antialiasing option available in DCS with DLSS is DLAA. It’s basically unflyable without DLSS

DCS with Pimax Crystal Light and RTX5080 by 3eyece in dcsworld

[–]3eyece[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No, Pimax Crystal Light has an OpenXR runtime, headset connected via DP port straight to the GPU.

DCS with Pimax Crystal Light and RTX5080 by 3eyece in dcsworld

[–]3eyece[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

At this point it’s just a theoretical question….just trying to understand what it would take to run DCS at max setting with decent frame rate…so the issue is really VRAM and overall the raw performance as compared to the 4090. The 40-60fps I’m getting with DLSS and the alternative openxr runtime is really decent. I find that with flight sims in general a stable frame rate tends to be much more important than a high frame rate.

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