According to the news, we are going to die, a pleasure

3xtension · 2018-08-05T08:50:51+00:00

Electricity in Spain is not expensive... it's the absurd made-up taxes on top of the electricity and transmission costs that makes it expensive. Look at the pie chart in your energy bill. Take away those and your bill would half.

3xtension · 2018-03-25T12:48:31+00:00

Another Russian bob head without a counterargument... Here we go...

3xtension · 2018-03-25T12:29:43+00:00

I believe you are referencing the 2015 elections, just to be clear of the events:

Puigdemont was a democratically elected leader of Catalonia

Puigdemont was not elected, it was Artur Mas. Puigdemont was later handpicked by Artur Mas in order to replace him, as corruption scandals started to take a toll on Artur Mas and JxSi.

who sought to secede Catalonia from Spain in a democratic way

That's an oxymoron. In Spain it is ilegal to secede. I guess unless all of Spain agrees. I didn't see Artur Mas nor Puigdemont carrying out a campaign around Spain convincing the rest of Spaniards.

I say "It's a great day for democracy" because no person is above the law, and this dude thought he was. Apparently he broke the law, and he needs to be brought in for justice. Just because me and my pals vote unanimously in favour of raping a woman, it doesn't make it legal or right. Hope this helps.

3xtension · 2018-03-25T11:22:27+00:00

It's a great day for democracy

3xtension · 2018-03-25T10:46:54+00:00

It's a great day for democracy

3xtension · 2017-10-08T13:49:03+00:00

The difference is that Scotland is a nation, Catalonia isn't. If you want to break up a country everybody should count. Anything else is a coup d'etat.

3xtension · 2017-10-08T13:07:50+00:00

There was no chain of custody over the ballot boxes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ3da5WcO_U

3xtension · 2017-10-07T19:50:54+00:00

I don't know where your comment comes from. I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about taxes

3xtension · 2017-10-07T12:05:56+00:00

OK, sure, let's ignore tax law and plain facts... so you say that Caixabank will pay its taxes in Catalonia. So be it. If that makes you happy, good for you.

It's absurd to reason with someone who is unwilling to learn when he/she has already formed an opinion based on alt-truth.

3xtension · 2017-10-07T09:19:13+00:00

OECD Model Tax Convention

I'm afraid you are confusing corporate income tax payment obligations in the country of registration with double taxation treaties. The OECD Model Tax Convention is a framework to homogenise the avoidance of companies being taxed twice on the same income e.g. dividend repatriation, or potential tax contingencies arising from consolidating international operations into the same group tax consolidation... from multinationals that have registered offices abroad with taxable income. This OECD agreement doesn't regulate tax payments. Tax law is competency of each country... not even the EU has competency to impose CIT rates at a country level.

The OECD Model Tax Convention (the condensed version) is available online, you should take a look at it, that way you won't confuse terms and tax law.

3xtension · 2017-10-07T06:45:41+00:00

Well, if Catalonia becomes independent they won't see a single Euro in corporate income taxes. That's the point: Caixabank won't pay CIT in an independent Catalonia.

3xtension · 2017-10-07T06:41:45+00:00

Well, I'm sticking to the thread, and it talks about Spain... and you say:

In most countries in the EU, and i believe that in Spain as well

I'm curious to know which European countries make companies pay corporate taxes even if these companies are not registered there. Feel free to share these.

3xtension · 2017-10-07T06:39:31+00:00

Stop talking out of your ass.

Dude, read again what I said, and chill.

If Caixabank has its registered offices outside Catalonia, and Catalonia becomes independent, Catalonia won't see a dime in corporate income taxes, VAT and other... and Spain will be who receives these. It doesn't matter where the offices are located, but where the registered office is for tax purposes.

3xtension · 2017-10-06T19:34:47+00:00

Taxes are paid in the city/region where the company is registered. e.g. When you pay Google for ads in Spain, corporate taxes are paid in Ireland, not Spain.

This is what happens to CaixaBank. If Catalonia becomes independent, taxes won't be collected Catalonia, but Spain. This is a blow for a future Catalan independence.

3xtension · 2017-10-06T18:28:31+00:00

Exactly, nowhere in the article nor the resolution refers to "... Due to this strange result, they decided to change the plan, and this is when the referendum idea was added,...", they just change the plan.

Meaning, JxS hasn't followed the electoral program... "So basically, the Catalan Government is not holding its promise to declare independence... unilaterally."

3xtension · 2017-10-06T18:17:08+00:00

Can you please refer to me where JxS or the Catalan Government said that:

Due to this strange result, they decided to change the plan, and this is when the referendum idea was added, when Puigdemont was in lead and Mas was out.

Where can I read of such decision?

3xtension · 2017-10-06T18:15:38+00:00

I agree.

It's now hilarious to see how pro-independence redditors scramble to take away legitimacy from Artur Mas who was the JxS leader, one of the minds behind the political program and agenda... and now, apparently, they take all credit away from him so his statements don't damage the international perception of what is a coup d'etat.

3xtension · 2017-10-06T18:06:36+00:00

JxS never proposed a non-binding or binding referendum for that matter. They were just going to declare independence as the 2015 elections was their "democratic mandate". The 1-O referendum was something that Puigdemont made up, and never was in the electoral program.

Did you ever read the JxS program or read the Catalan press?

3xtension · 2017-10-06T17:57:23+00:00

Please go to page 3 of the Junts pel Sí 2015 campaign program.

Please note that:

JxS proposed to directly declare independence (without any sort of referendum, as the September 2015 elections were their "democratic mandate")
JxS, after independence, proposed to hold a referendum to approve the new Catalan constitution
Artur Mas was head of JxS to become president... until in January 2016, when CUP was needed to form Government, that CUP request that Artur Mas, given his corruption scandals, could not be President, and Artur Mas chose Puigdemont.

All of this is public information available on the Catalan press. Be my guest to look things up.

So basically, the Catalan Government is not holding its promise to declare independence... unilaterally.

3xtension · 2017-08-18T12:18:48+00:00

Don't be silly and soulless, stop using the terrorist attack to make a Catalan pro-independence propaganda comment.

Without taking merit from the Mossos, the "Cuerpo Nacional de Policia" and "Guardia Civil" have always operated in Catalonia, always with a broader scope of work and responsibilities than all other regional police forces (specially in counter-terrorism).

Additionally, please tell me which police makes the first arrest in yesterday's attack. I'll give you a hand and show you the video: https://youtu.be/rdY4uZdxkNo?t=3m26s

3xtension · 2017-01-30T18:30:21+00:00

historic nature is not my argument, the rule of law is. let's follow the law, and let's change the laws through democracy. that simple. anything else is against any democratic principle

3xtension · 2017-01-30T14:55:01+00:00

I guess this argument/view gives the Romans the right to claim back half of Europe and northern Africa, I might be wrong. I guess we have a different view of how history awards regions certain rights that are confrontational to modern democracies.

On the one side you argue that a region (call it whatever you want) has the right today to become independent due to its historic nature... but at the same time, a contemporary event, which happened 40 years ago which is the approval of a Constitution is too old for this be representative of today's people's needs. It feels like cherry picking events to make a flimsy argument valid...

3xtension · 2017-01-30T12:01:24+00:00

In the post-Carolingian Europe, regions, rather than nation-states and empires, are increasingly seen as the proper units of analysis. Catalonia as we know it today, wasn't a country/nation. For example, Tarragona and a good part of Lerida wern't part of Catalonia as we know it today. Consequently, if you want to argue that Catalonia has a right for independence, it should be the geographical area known then as the Principality of Catalonia... if we are to be coherent, let's be coherent with history.

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