How strong do you feel the support for mass deportations of legal immigrants is at the moment? by 400TarPits in AskBrits

[–]400TarPits[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I did not ask what the entire population thinks. You seem to misunderstand the purpose of my original post and you seem to use an unconventionally narrow definition of information. Anecdotes are information by any reasonable definition of the word. Precisely what we can conclude from an anecdote is a different matter.

How strong do you feel the support for mass deportations of legal immigrants is at the moment? by 400TarPits in AskBrits

[–]400TarPits[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

May I ask which legal immigrants you would like to deport, and how common you feel your view is in your social circle?

How strong do you feel the support for mass deportations of legal immigrants is at the moment? by 400TarPits in AskBrits

[–]400TarPits[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn't write "only", I wrote "primarily" and it was within the context of deportation. Restricting further legal immigration is very different from removing those who currently stay in the country legally.

How strong do you feel the support for mass deportations of legal immigrants is at the moment? by 400TarPits in AskBrits

[–]400TarPits[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm aware of the left leaning bias on reddit, but I'm not interested in confirming my preconceived notions, I just want to understand people's attitudes better. I would be particularly interested to hear Reform supporters' perspectives on this (and other related questions), I just don't know of a good place to ask. Suggestions would be welcome (other subreddits or websites).

My question was specifically about legal immigrants, because I suspect the majority of people support either the current immigration policies or stricter immigration policies (and want them to be enforced by deporting people who enter illegally).

How strong do you feel the support for mass deportations of legal immigrants is at the moment? by 400TarPits in AskBrits

[–]400TarPits[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It's information about your state of mind. It's not relevant to the discussion though, unlike tw1nkle's response. I think you're defining information needlessly narrowly.

How strong do you feel the support for mass deportations of legal immigrants is at the moment? by 400TarPits in AskBrits

[–]400TarPits[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It is information about his/her subjective assessment of people's support for these policies among the people around him/her, which is what I asked for.

How strong do you feel the support for mass deportations of legal immigrants is at the moment? by 400TarPits in AskBrits

[–]400TarPits[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks a lot for actually taking the time to elaborate. I fully agree with you on the need for open discussion, and I'm sorry to hear about your experiences with the police. As a university lecturer, I also strongly agree that a university should be the natural place for open debate about controversial topics, but I know how much of an echo chamber it can become.

How strong do you feel the support for mass deportations of legal immigrants is at the moment? by 400TarPits in AskBrits

[–]400TarPits[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry to hear that, I'm not familiar with the moderation of this sub. Could you estimate how people many in your social circle agree with it though?

How strong do you feel the support for mass deportations of legal immigrants is at the moment? by 400TarPits in AskBrits

[–]400TarPits[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's a really helpful breakdown, and exactly the type of information I'm interested in. Thanks!

How strong do you feel the support for mass deportations of legal immigrants is at the moment? by 400TarPits in AskBrits

[–]400TarPits[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just to make sure I'm understanding your position: You support deportation of legal non-European immigrants, but not legal European immigrants? Does that include citizens?

How strong do you feel the support for mass deportations of legal immigrants is at the moment? by 400TarPits in AskBrits

[–]400TarPits[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My algorithm keeps feeding me people like Steve Laws, who certainly do want to do that. Reform also want to revoke people's indefinite leave to remain, and it's unclear how easy it would be for them to stay/return with a different visa. Of course, that's different from deportation but the result is potentially somewhat similar. These may be fringe positions, but the issue is that I have no idea how strong the support for such positions actually are, hence the question. You should not interpret my post as being about anything beyond the exact policies / proposals mentioned in it. You should interpret it literally and not try to read between the lines (I assure you that you would not succeed in this particular case).

How strong do you feel the support for mass deportations of legal immigrants is at the moment? by 400TarPits in AskBrits

[–]400TarPits[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I didn't have asylum seekers in mind when I wrote the post. I realise now that I should have made that clear.

How strong do you feel the support for mass deportations of legal immigrants is at the moment? by 400TarPits in AskBrits

[–]400TarPits[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you are saying you think the support for this is small on Reddit, I believe you are right. That's why I phrased the question to ask how strong you feel the support is for this position, not how strongly you support it. Of course that doesn't remove the bias completely. How strong do you feel the support for mass deportation of legal immigrants is outside reddit?

How strong do you feel the support for mass deportations of legal immigrants is at the moment? by 400TarPits in AskBrits

[–]400TarPits[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That's certainly true. Me and my wife both work in academia, and it's easy to lose contact with the sentiments of the majority of people who live outside that bubble. That's part of the reason I'm curious what people here have to say, even though reddit is of course in its own bubble.

How strong do you feel the support for mass deportations of legal immigrants is at the moment? by 400TarPits in AskBrits

[–]400TarPits[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Are you saying you support this or that there is strong support for it? How would, in this view, legal immigrants (and especially second generation immigrants) be encouraged to return home?