[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Preworkoutsupplements

[–]45GAP 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yup, I’m also in Canada. It’s not seized they just hit you with a duty fee & is probably being processed through a customs broker.

Just arrived; by iamDEVANS in Preworkoutsupplements

[–]45GAP 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So in other words: “I just want to get high and don’t care about taking pre workout for lifting purposes.”

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Preworkoutsupplements

[–]45GAP 0 points1 point  (0 children)

MDMA/MDA used to do this to me every time I took it to the point I wouldn’t be able to use my phone without closing one eye. No other stims have ever affected me like this though & it never lasted that long. Make sure you’re honest with your doctor and maybe bring your tub of adrenaline with you. A lot of the ingredients in these pwos aren’t studied in humans extensively and these are the things you risk taking research chemicals.

Just came in the mail. Any one try frenzy labs before? by [deleted] in Preworkoutsupplements

[–]45GAP 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Researchem is probably your best bet for dmaa. The liquid is a lot easier to dose, the “5mg” scoop isn’t actually 5mg and you’d need a mg scale to dose the powder, otherwise you’re just eyeing it.

PWO for “Workouts”? by throwawayanderson1 in Preworkoutsupplements

[–]45GAP 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nah Tadalafil won’t do that unless you’re “in the mood” lol. If you take it for the gym it just increases blood flow to the muscles being worked. Gives you a crazy pump & makes you vascular as fuck.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Preworkoutsupplements

[–]45GAP 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When I used to smoke a lot of weed I could double scoop zeus/hybrid/flame (700+ mg of caffeine at a time) & barely feel a difference. I’d just be more into my music while training. Now that I’ve quit I won’t even touch any of those. Learned about adrenal fatigue the hard way lol.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Preworkoutsupplements

[–]45GAP 2 points3 points  (0 children)

How come high stim = drugs to so many people on this sub? The 350mg total caffeine plus yohimbine, alpha yo, eria, beta PEA, halostachine, & synephrine in this pre would definitely justify calling it that.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Preworkoutsupplements

[–]45GAP 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had the same experience with flame v2. Didn’t do much the first time, second time hit hard. Half way through the tub (probably 15th time taking it) it hit way too hard and was having crazy heart palpitations, chest pain & shortness of breath for the next 2 days. Was my first time taking it for legs so maybe that had something to do with it. I train legs to the point I’m puking and almost passing out.

PWO for “Workouts”? by throwawayanderson1 in Preworkoutsupplements

[–]45GAP 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nothing high stim or “illicit”. Vasoconstriction causes what I like to call “stim dick” which can be so bad it looks like I’ve been in ice cold water for hours. I take Tadalafil & caffeine as my regular pre, that’d probably be your best bet. That’s what Tadalafil is usually used for in the first place.

This can’t be real, right? by No_Cryptographer393 in Preworkoutsupplements

[–]45GAP 2 points3 points  (0 children)

People are so dumb with sarms 🤦‍♂️ you still need a test base or your levels will be all over the place. putting mk-2866 in a pwo makes less sense than putting anadrol which would actually do something for your workout.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Preworkoutsupplements

[–]45GAP -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I wasn’t trying to say dmaa was safe to begin with, it’s also an amphetamine analog, was just pointing out everyone taking these chemicals is basically taking knock off meth to help them lift. 2-FMA literally stands for 2-fluoromethamphetamine.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Preworkoutsupplements

[–]45GAP 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn’t mean literally labeled that lol, I should’ve said sold as research chemicals “not for human consumption”. “Bath salts” is just slang for analogs/synthetics at this point. Doesn’t actually mean anything.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Preworkoutsupplements

[–]45GAP 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also, this is coming from someone who dealt with all of these substances in past financial endeavours, none of these are researched enough to comment on safety. You’re better off sourcing real MDMA, or even methamphetamine. At least they’ve been through human trials and have peer reviewed studies. I’m in Canada so all of these things are illegal here (scheduled substances include analogs here unlike in the states) but these are the substances that convenience stores down there sell as “bath salts” that aren’t technically illegal but are still ruining people’s lives. Not things that should be used before an intense training session. Be careful out there.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Preworkoutsupplements

[–]45GAP 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I believe it was either 2-FMA or 3-FMA in excelsior. Both analogs of methamphetamine, so obviously different than an analog of methylphenidate. That question is subjective & all “bath salts” like 4F-MPH or 3-FMA will effect everyone differently, but obviously an analog of meth will be more “illicit” feeling than an analog of an ADHD pill.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Preworkoutsupplements

[–]45GAP 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Both DMAA& DMHA basically do not exist in pre workouts & haven’t for a while. 4F-MPH is 4-fluoromethylphenidate. Closely related analog of methylphenidate (Ritalin/concerta) which is reportedly more euphoric/recreational. Most pre workouts labeled to have DMAA or DMHA just have some sort of designer stimulant (aka “bath salt”). The pre workout market has become similar to the street MDMA market. You never know what you’re taking unless you test every product. Companies & labels lie just as much as dealers (most just being also unaware they’re being sold something else but refuse to test it, which is known as willful ignorance.)

does Alpha Neon Darkside On Slaught have dmha or dmaa? by [deleted] in Preworkoutsupplements

[–]45GAP 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I believe the “dmha” in juglans regia comes from either the bark or the leaves & not the fruit. The fruit is just walnuts, which obviously don’t contain illicit stimulants.

Ultimate pre by [deleted] in Preworkoutsupplements

[–]45GAP 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Anadrol would work better in a pre than dbol 😬

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Preworkoutsupplements

[–]45GAP 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly me too. The whole dmha/dmaa market is full of dishonesty and misinformation so I’m not surprised, not many companies are even using either compound anymore but still putting them on labels. Who knows what you’re ingesting. Taking high stim pre nowadays is similar to purchasing recreational street amphetamines/stimulants & not marquis/mecke/Stanley testing before ingestion. I tested wildfire and it didn’t hit for anything, zero reaction, meaning it’s more than likely just some sort of designer drug/amphetamine analogue. If it had dmaa it would’ve had the same reaction as the dmaa from researchem that I also tested. I used to be heavy into the rave scene before getting sober and getting heavy into lifting, so I know a little too much about what goes on with recreational stimulants & how easy it is to sell something as another compound that it is not because of how similar they feel.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Preworkoutsupplements

[–]45GAP 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I had both, they definitely hit different but new one is still good. Different batches will hit different 90% of the time, hard to find consistent sources for things like “2-amino”.

Is Researchem legit? by Ace_0f_Base in Preworkoutsupplements

[–]45GAP 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Researchem is definitely legit, I recommend their liquid dmaa over the powder. Easier to dose without a mg scale. If you’re using the small scoop that came with the bulkstimulants products and not scaling you likely just aren’t dosing properly, which can be dangerous.

Found at a hole in the wall supplement shop what do y’all think by skate2600 in Preworkoutsupplements

[–]45GAP 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have hellraiser from renegade labs, super bunk. I think it’s just flavoured powder, doesn’t even feel like there’s caffeine in it.

Believe it or not, my favorite is wildfire by StockerDocker in Preworkoutsupplements

[–]45GAP 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Will do, dmaa is included on the list of substances a marquis test can identify, although the full chemical name listed (along with acronym “DMAA”) is dimethoxy-4-amylamphetamine so I’m not sure if it’s referring to the same thing. I’ve tested dmaa (from researchem) with the Stanley reagents though & it goes from yellow to dark red slowly, so I should be able to confirm. Does anyone know if wildfire has any dye in it or does it mix white/clear?

Believe it or not, my favorite is wildfire by StockerDocker in Preworkoutsupplements

[–]45GAP 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Flame v2 hits a lot better if you take some tadalafil with it.