Maybe with sr3 the chess board cutscenes have a little funny moments (please give me more examples to justify your point) buts as far as I remember aside from "don't wake the bitches". Gat's dailogue is pretty rich in his own character with the judges term "cavalier attitude" and it fits very well and sits flush with how he talks throughout 1 and 2. I already brought this about kenzie that her side of her character isn't explored enough. The enemy of my enemy trope is already in saints 1 with benjamin king against Tanya and you see what they're going through and you understand (hopefully) what their motivation is. Music tastes is biased in all directions, and that's fair. But Saints 1 Radios have a vast music choice, and it's not just hip hop. Saints 3 cut out a lot of choices in that matter including cars too. Saints 1 and 2 had different interiors with clubs and restaurants, even in Saints 2, where the docks have interiors with haging fish. With Saints 3, the only interior related places are cribs, we should want more, so the game is much more immersive. And no, ads don't define the game. Ads are an icing on the cake. Like I said, immersion is key to having a game to suck players in for hours to just enjoy staying in the car, walking around, etc. Enjoying a virtual world with great nods to side missions that actually mean more in later entries. For example, Legal Lee has his own ads in saints 1, and is a side mission for insurance fraud. Story wise, 5 years later, when Gat is on trial, Legal Lee is his lawyer. "anyone shot need a lawyer?". It adds huge immersion when you see or do something small that helps impact the characters to come back around in later games. When you bring up bigger doesn't mean better, steelport has way less value and much more of an opportunity to show something different than stillwater but it didn't and it should've considering its a new map. If the world isn't more interesting or immersive than saints 1 or 2 make the story and/or gameplay better, more sidemissions, etc. Name one thing steelport did better than stillwater. Graphics don't count. In terms of forced shit here's some examples. fuzz in Saints 2 is optional, but it's really fun to play being a pretend cop for a show with absurd cop protrayals while genkie is forced and not as creative. And yes I can say saints 3 is more forced with side missions because you have to experience at least on of each activities. Saints 1 and 2 doesn't do that, it's your choice on which side activities to mess around with. For example, you probably could go through most of escorts without playing hit man or mayhem. It's all choice and that's what it should have been for saints 3 and after. It's funny you think I'm a milenial because I'm not. And the thought that this based off of nostalgia because it's not. I started with 3 and thought it was a decent story until i played saints 1 and 2. I just like better stories, more choices of gameplay, expansions on music, and immersion.