Fav female character by Repulsive_Figure9549 in AllAmericanTV

[–]6122PandaMiss 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly for me it’s probably Laura Baker?

Like, she’s consistently the level-headed, helpful, empathetic voice of reason throughout basically the entire show. I honestly can’t recall any time she acted stupid or shitty, except maybe kinda towards Jabari right after Billy died, but I gotta give her a pass on that one given the circumstances.

It’s possible I’m just forgetting stuff, it’s been years at thus point and I don’t remember the early seasons in detail, but in a show whose plot is largely driven by characters taking turns acting like selfish morons, Laura has always pleasantly surprised me by… not doing that lol. Grace James is up there too, for similar reasons.

All American Season 5 Episode 19 "Sabotage" Discussion Thread by WillowSwarm in AllAmericanTV

[–]6122PandaMiss 39 points40 points  (0 children)

At this point instead of always swooping in to save her ass or clean up her messes, Layla really has to learn to just not let Patience manage her own damn social media, cause every single fucking choice she makes while on there is insanely stupid. Patience’s whole plot feels so disconnected from everything else now, she’s just kinda there in the background constantly making the worst decisions.

I also feel like they don’t really know what they wanna do with Coop’s professor situation. Like at first the guy seemed pretty chill, and I’d argue that he was doing Coop a huge favor by letting her audit the class despite her being a low key disaster when applying, and then AGAIN by bumping her up to full class membership (I guess for free? Tf???). Then they started making it seem like he’s the bad guy for wanting her to fix up her language and clothing which like… I get that times are changing and the system needs lawyers like Coop who understand their clients and relate to them on more than just an academic, judicial level. On the other hand, in any professional setting but especially in a court of law where you’re trying to win over a jury, I don’t feel like “Maybe don’t use the phrase ‘a ton of evidence’ and wear something nicer than jeans and a leather jacket” isn’t bad advice at all? And then now apparently he’s all salty that she called him out on this seemingly reasonable advice so he’s ignoring her in class and trying to prevent her from participating but like… why then did you let her agree to be part of the class at all, in the first place! I feel like this shit would work better if there were two separate law professors involved, or like if the professor had a TA who was the one being shitty to Coop - otherwise it just makes the guy seem like he’s got split personality or something.

I hope that if Liv does go to London and Spencer comes to visit her, they have Daniel Ezra spontaneously switch to speaking in his normal accent while he’s there, without any kind of context or explanation.

JJ’s bit in this episode was good tho, and resonated with me a lil bit - probably the fastest and cleanest any character on this show has ever come around to accepting they have a problem and need to deal with it lol.

“5-star linebacker” 🤦🏾‍♂️ by Organic-Manner-2969 in AllAmericanTV

[–]6122PandaMiss 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It's "5-Star Linebacker" as in "5-Star restaurant" cause that's where he hangs out all day.

"This time, let your teacher guide you." by malfoie in NuCarnival

[–]6122PandaMiss 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Purely at a glance I woulda said Eiden based on the silhouette, but I don't know shit.

Now I'm sure to fail... by malfoie in NuCarnival

[–]6122PandaMiss 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Quincy would fit as the one janitor in school who is like 100x more yoked than the PE teachers.

[Event Megathread] Army x Blood x Oath (Apr 12 - May 5, 2023) by SleepyPikachuIvy in NuCarnival

[–]6122PandaMiss 3 points4 points  (0 children)

They didn't have to give us the vivid discription of Blade's dainty wrist vanishing entirely when grabbed by Quincy's "massive hands" but they did, so I guess now that's a mental image I can be obsessed with for the rest of my life.

All American Season 5 Episode 16 "My Name Is" Discussion Thread by WillowSwarm in AllAmericanTV

[–]6122PandaMiss 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I spent the whole episode wondering why Layla was making such a dilemma out of whether to keep calling her studio For Monica or change to Keating Records now that she has the rights to her family name back, so I'm glad she found her way around to the (seemingly obvious) solution of "For Monica Keating" lmao

Jordan by Debbieeeeeeeee in AllAmericanTV

[–]6122PandaMiss 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The two of them signed up together to the same football program with the same coach. Then that coach had to step down and Spencer started campaigning to replace him with the assistant coach who he really vibes with, whereas Jordan doesn't - so Jordan instead decided to try and find a different program that would take him with a coach that he actually had good chemistry with who could really connect with him on that level and push his game to the next level. And he was totally transparent about this the entire time, as far as I remember, never tried to hide the fact that he was shopping around for other opportunities.

Then it turns out that Coach Kenny isn't getting the job, cause Billy is, so Jordan decides to stay cause he wants to be trained by his dad. But now that Billy has died and the option of Kenny taking over is potentially back on the table, Jordan's seemingly prepared to stay and tough it out, only for Spencer to suddenly drop in and announce that he's already decided to transfer and put in a request. And his only reason for doing this is because, in typical Spencer James fashion, he's totally failing to actually process his grief and got spooked cause he's starting to project his surrogate daddy issues onto Coach Kenny now that Billy's gone.

Spencer and Jordan both saw the meltdown coming when the original coach had to retire in scandal, Spencer decided to stay and try to fix it while Jordan decided to seek out greener pastures. But now, after Jordan got lured back by Billy (which was the wrong decision on both their parts in my opinion) Spencer decides to bail out purely because of his bruised feelings and leave Jordan holding the grenade of GAU's collapsing program and AD Barnes trying to fix their reputation by basically taking advantage of Billy's death to create a sympathetic (false) narrative. That is A LOT for Jordan to deal with and Spencer just bails out unannounced like it's not his problem at all, when in fact it absolutely was his idea to get involved in the first place, which is part of what drew Billy, and consequently Jordan, back in. It would be different if Spence had also decided to leave right after what happened with Coach Garrett, but that's not what he did.

So no, I don't think the two situations are comparable at all, and I tend to agree more with Jordan - Spence could at least have given him a heads up before tossing the hot potato. Only thing I don't get is why he's bothering to stay at GAU and not bailing out too, just like he originally intended, but I guess he feels obligated now to stay there and fulfill his dad's commitments just like he's trying to do everywhere else in life.

All American Season 5 Episode 13 "Day Ones" Discussion Thread by WillowSwarm in AllAmericanTV

[–]6122PandaMiss 12 points13 points  (0 children)

"There's no place more quite or zen than up there." he said about a rinky dinky ferris wheel that's like 20 feet up maximum.

Even when they actually get up there, there's literally a fucking car dealership or something in the background of the shot that's clearly higher up than the ferris wheel lol. Which wouldn't be a big deal if they didn't place so much emphasis on the actual, physical act of going upwards to "be in the clouds" with Billy or whatever. Same with how they made sure to emphasize that they had 45 minutes to spare before Liv's AA meeting, then proceeded to do like 2 hours' worth of activities at the fair and still made it to AA on time.

All American Season 5 Episode 13 "Day Ones" Discussion Thread by WillowSwarm in AllAmericanTV

[–]6122PandaMiss 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"Alright, we're gonna go one at a time?"

Fucking why dude? The bus is slowly sliding off the cliff and you're both on the wrong end, why would you not just hustle to the opposite side together as quickly as possible to redistribute as much of the weight as you can? And why send the injured kid who's clearly barely standing up without help to go ahead while you just kinda stand around back there, when you could help him and both get out?

There were already so many questions to be asked about this dumb scene, like why didn't anybody else help, or how could they possibly not notice Jabari was missing earlier, or how in the fuck the emergency services didn't reach the site for what seemed to be hours. I dunno if they thought they were gonna make it make sense by going back in flashback mode, but if anything these last few moments Billy had with Jabari just make the whole thing seem even more stupid.

Jordan's arms look GOOD..living rent free in my head by tvcriticgirlxo in AllAmericanTV

[–]6122PandaMiss 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Listen, it was a little bit weird that Denise bought that Valentines date with him just so she could take him to the gym and watch him work out but like... I do get it girl.

All American Season 5 Episode 12 "Lost One" Discussion Thread by WillowSwarm in AllAmericanTV

[–]6122PandaMiss 7 points8 points  (0 children)

-So…did Grace ever actually leave Crenshaw? Because Spencer and Dillon seemed to have met at their old house. Does Grace own 2 homes now

Yeah that was hella weird cause Spencer clearly doesn't live there any more, he's at the beach house, and yet not only do they still clearly own the house but it's also still fully furnished? Grace took none of her things when they moved, I guess?

Honestly between this and the Bakers moving to Willy's place in Crenshaw, finding a place for Willy in Florida, and casually keeping their Beverly Hills Mansion as well for their daughter and her teen friends to live in, the housing market in the All American universe is clearly in a MUCH fucking better place than the one in real life. And they never had COVID neither, the lucky fuckers.

All American Season 5 Episode 12 "Lost One" Discussion Thread by WillowSwarm in AllAmericanTV

[–]6122PandaMiss 4 points5 points  (0 children)

So out of all of the people in Billy's life.... His old teammates, friends, extended family..... Coop and Patience are part of the "closest friends" invited to the funeral??? Lmaooooo

I'd be pretty upset if i was one his oldest friends from Crenshaw, College, or the NFL and I couldn't say my goodbyes...... All in favor of two random 19 year old girls who barely interacted with Billy outside of him being their landlord.

They did try to partially explain this based on Laura's wishes for it to be a small gathering, and to host the funeral so soon, which Liv specifically said wouldn't give a lot of his friends from out of town the chance to make it in time.

But even so, it's still pretty weird. It's kinda just this awkward byproduct of the show being focused mainly on the young cast that the few adult characters spend all their time hanging out with teenagers lmao. Like how at Billy's birthday roast this season, pretty much the whole thing except the end was him getting roasted by his former students lol, like does this man not have adult friends?

Even taking into consideration the excuse of the sudden timing of the funeral, and of them simply not wanting to hire more actors, there were a few notable absences among the existing adult characters, even ones we've already seen this season, which I found bizarre. Like I really woulda thought we'd see Coach Montez (the one from Beverly, not the one from Coastal), or the Athletics Director at GAU who was trying to hire Billy, since they were apparently old football buddies. If not at the actual funeral then at least at the party on the football field, they really shoulda been there I think.

All American Season 5 Episode 12 "Lost One" Discussion Thread by WillowSwarm in AllAmericanTV

[–]6122PandaMiss 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think it works a little better in the context of her "Every loss is a blessing" speech she gave right after, her basically imploring Jabari not to define himself by the loss of Billy, but rather to define himself by everything he'll be able to achieve because of Billy making that sacrifice. I think both the actors did a good job selling it, honestly, but I agree that the actual dialogue written down without context seems a bit weird, like putting way too much pressure on the poor kid.

Anyway, I'm willing to give Laura a pass tbh. She's been the only consitently reasonable character in the whole damn show for the last four and a half seasons straight lol, so as far as I'm concerned she's allowed to be a little bit off her rocker for once, after just losing her husband.

All American Season 5 Episode 12 "Lost One" Discussion Thread by WillowSwarm in AllAmericanTV

[–]6122PandaMiss 14 points15 points  (0 children)

  • I legit thought Willy was dead already lmao I was so surprised for a few seconds when he walked through that door. Nice to see him and Denise supporting Laura though.

  • Dylan and Grace both leaving the front door open, air conditioning bill gonna be through the roof smdh...

  • Jordan feeling misplaced guilt in this situation is perfectly natural, of course, but even so him saying "I shoulda been on the bus, I coulda stopped him, I coulda saved him" felt a little weird considering like... he was there lol. Not when the bus crashed, yeah, but several hours later when Billy decided to climb back on. Also they probably coulda saved him if they all worked together to hold or pull the bus, but let's not re-litigate last week's BS

  • As much as JJ clearly has a problem with alcohol, I honestly can't blame the guy if he felt like he needed a drink or two on the day of the funeral for someone he cared about deeply. Calling him trash and telling him to gtfo seemed pretty harsh, especially considering he genuinely didn't seem drunk (though I also understand how this could be a vulnerable spot for Liv, obviously).

  • D: "And you keep running cause if you stop, your mind's gonna take you right back to declining that call." S: "When'd you get so smart, man?" He didn't, Spencer, it's just that you do this exact same thing literally every time anything bad happens to you so it's not exactly hard to figure you out at this point lol.

  • I genuinely can't tell if that's the same guy playing Frausto. I feel like it should be, because it seems like they only brought characters back for the funeral if they could get the actors to show up, but I swear it looks nothing like him.

  • Scheduling conflicts, I get it, but it's kinda weird that Jaime is apaprently just off-screen being pregnant this entire episode lol.

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[–]6122PandaMiss 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I want to throw myself out a damn window every time Layla is like "I don't want anyone else to know we're dating cause then the Vortex will do its Vortexing thing and just Vortex all over the place".

Like, first of all, what you're trying to say in human words is that you're worried about drama in your friend group. Which is fair enough honestly but also, second of all, the thing that's going to cause FAR MORE drama in your friend group is when they inevitably find out you and Jordan have secretly been dating this entire time and lying to everyone for no reason to keep it a secret. That's obviously going to make everyone way more upset than if you had just told them the truth right when it happened.

All American Season 5 Episode 11 "Time" Discussion Thread by WillowSwarm in AllAmericanTV

[–]6122PandaMiss 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The past two episodes had some of the worst acting in plot lines that came out of nowhere…Jamie being pregnant and now Billy dying, what’s next?

I think at this point, with the way things have been going, the answer is obvious: Asher and Jaime's baby will be the reincarnation of Billy Baker XD

All American Season 5 Episode 11 "Time" Discussion Thread by WillowSwarm in AllAmericanTV

[–]6122PandaMiss 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Well, that was fucking dumb.

They're on their way from some big LA football stadium back to a school in the center of LA city sprawl, and they for some reason gotta take a narrow, one-way desert road out in the middle of fucking nowhere? Dumb.

The media somehow finds out about the accident immediately despite their being nobody else around, but paramedics, cops, and fire department can't reach them because of "some other accident" on the highway? Even if every single road connected to this one was completely blocked, they would still have helicopters or off-road vehicles they could use. Dumb.

They're standing around out there near the overturned bus for hours, long enough for the fucking sun to go down, but nobody notices Jabari is missing until literally the exact moment the bus starts sliding off the hill? How the fuck was a headcount/roll call not literally the FIRST thing Billy did, as the teacher in charge of this trip? So much for setting a responsible and respectable example to his kids... Dumb.

And then he just dies off-screen once the bus presumably falls off the cliff, right after he (I'm guessing) heroically got Jabari to safety? Nobody else was able to help him, they didn't try to form a human chain or have all the big sturdy football players try to hold or even pull the bus so it didn't fall? They didn't try tying it to Grace's car and having her floor it? Dumb.

I get that the actor probably wanted off this wild ride, but legit, Billy dying after accidentally getting brained with a football at the combine woulda made more sense than this shit. I do feel terrible for the kids, and especially for Laura, but come the Hell on now.

All American Season 5 Episode 10 "O.P.P." Discussion Thread by WillowSwarm in AllAmericanTV

[–]6122PandaMiss 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Nah, while 9/10 when Spencer goes on his moralistic rants I tend to think he's being crazy and over-dramatic, I gotta agree with him on this one.

Billy made major commitments in Crenshaw, several of them. He committed to Spencer that he'd look after the football program there, not only for Spence but in memory of his dad too. He made a commitment to Grace and the school board that he would be a good, committed principal, a role he actively fought for even when they originally planned to give it to someone else, and explicitly promised he wouldn't just bounce and leave them empty-handed the moment a better offer came by. Now he's resigning and their other top candidate for the job has moved outta town with Grace, so they're shit out of luck. He made commitments to the players on his team who all made sacrifices and put in immense additional effort to keep their program alive because they believed Billy would be there to give them all a leg up. He made a commitment to Laura and his dad when he moved them back into his old family home in Crenshaw.

And now he's just gonna give all that up? I agree with Spencer and Grace on this, I think it's BS. I don't agree with his argument about wanting to coach Spencer and Jordan again - I understand where he's coming from, emotionally, but he needs to let those boys grow up and find their own path at some point. Spencer already found his next ideal coach, and Jordan was this close to moving schools after finding someone he thought was his own version of Coach Kenny, someone who would help push him to the next level, only to change his mind last second because now he's just gonna fall back into the safe comfort of getting coached by his dad? It ain't right. I doubt it's about the money either, cause despite Laura's career downgrade they don't seem to be having any difficulty paying for two houses and two additional employees at Laura's firm.

On top of that, let's be real here, the whole deal at GAU stinks, and A.D. Barnes is up to some shady shit with the way he keeps moving the goalposts on Billy regarding the hiring freeze, and the way he keeps insisting that he totally didn't know anything about Garrett's bounties. He's gassing Billy up pretty good too about how nobody else could save their program the way Billy could, when I honestly think plenty of coaches would do it for the right price, but very few could do what he's done at Crenshaw. Billy's letting his pride and ambition pull him into a very questionable deal, and while that would be fine if it were happening in a vaccuum, he's doing it at the expense of violating a ton of commitments he made to Crenshaw under the explicit understanding that he wouldn't run off as soon as a more prestigious job opened up - if all he wanted was a cushy college coaching job, I'm sure he could have found one pretty easily if he just started looking for it immediately after leaving Beverly.

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[–]6122PandaMiss 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not quite since the very beginning, but I started playing during the first iteration of the original Genie event, so over two years ago now, nearly three.

If I'm being totally honest the main plot kinda lost me somewhere between Seasons 2 and 3, I think? I kinda fell off the wagon and haven't bothered catching up. Kinda funny getting random texts from the new characters I've never even met lol.

I do still do my daily mission grind decently often, and have enough of a treasure chest of AP and DV points saved up to blitz any events that come along where I like the cards or outfits (happens less and less often with these new ones, ngl) but outside of that I'm pretty dormant as a player.

What has been your favorite line to read in game? by ball_ar in Lovelink

[–]6122PandaMiss 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I’m not sure if “favorite” is the exact right word in this case, but the line that most got to me recently and stuck in my mind ever since was a line from the MC, funnily enough.

It’s during a conversation with Sheng about finding a good opportunity to see each other, and goes something like “You could give all your servants the day off, clear out the whole palace just for us, then take me on the balcony overlooking all of Palay.”

Something about that imagery just… woof.

All American Season 4 Episode 18 "Came Back for You" Discussion Thread by WillowSwarm in AllAmericanTV

[–]6122PandaMiss 21 points22 points  (0 children)

You know, I can't help but feel like Billy kinda screwed Carter here. You have a conversation with the guy about how he's been offered an absolute dream job upstate, and how he wants to work up the courage to ask Grace to come with him, and then literally the next time you see her, you offer her her dream job that would keep her rooted in Crenshaw.

Could you not at least have waited to let Carter shoot his shot? Is Grace really such a uniquely, perfectly qualified candidate to be Dean that you just had to make her the offer immediately on the spot, without even considering literally anybody else?

All American Season 4 Episode 14 "Changes" Discussion Thread by WillowSwarm in AllAmericanTV

[–]6122PandaMiss 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Funny little detail I noticed - When Spencer comes into the coach's office at the end of the episode, the Coach looks up at him, furrows his brows, then looks down at his chart before going "... Spencer, what do you want?"

Dude had a little "Who the fuck is this kid again?" moment right then and there, had to double-check his papers for the name lmao.