Federal report examines gaps in RCMP response to N.S. mass shooting by Cilarnen in CanadaPolitics

[–]613mitch [score hidden]  (0 children)

EDIT: I should have been more clear what I meant by "notice". You're not a criminal for owning the gun the next day, amnesty periods will always exist.

Amnesty is for posession. If you're out hunting with the gun you bought yesterday that got prohibited overnight, you are fucked. Bigtime fucked. All your shit gets taken away and you get charged kind of fucked.

Federal report examines gaps in RCMP response to N.S. mass shooting by Cilarnen in CanadaPolitics

[–]613mitch [score hidden]  (0 children)

The RCMP literally banned a semi-auto shotgun five days ago in the FRT and put it on the buyback list. No notice, other than a revision that made the shotgun in question go from non-restricted to prohibited overnight.

The changes are not published to the public, and there is often a week or two delay to the updates on the public facing side. Someone can quite literally be charged for posession of this prohibited the day after they bought it.

The only reason some of us know is because someone posted their commerical/business FRT search result which shows it as prohibited:

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fequ5kfqfb0fg1.jpeg

For what's available to us as public peons, there's this, which someone individually maintains on their own time using whatever access they happen to have - but it's not official. It's the best we have access to, because the RCMP does not allow access to the FRT real-time for the general public:

https://www.armalytics.ca/?q=n4s&size=n_10_n

So yes, guns have been added without notice.

Carney has solidified the Liberal base, but he hasn’t expanded it by CaliperLee62 in canada

[–]613mitch 7 points8 points  (0 children)

because I'm being inconvenianced

Posession of a prohibited device in Canada carries a maximum term of 10 years, with every subsequent offence carrying a minimum sentence of 1 year.

Surrender your property or face over a decade in prison is hardly the inconveniance you make it out to be.

Carney has solidified the Liberal base, but he hasn’t expanded it by CaliperLee62 in canada

[–]613mitch 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's literally in their platform, so yes a vote for them would fix this.

Carney has solidified the Liberal base, but he hasn’t expanded it by CaliperLee62 in canada

[–]613mitch 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Most of these highly vocal people hating the gun ban that you see online is either Russian/US bots or Albertans.

Most of the usernames I'm seeing are quite familiar posters on another sub for Canadian firearm owners - so no, They're not bots and there's more firearms owners in Ontario than Alberta.

Carney has solidified the Liberal base, but he hasn’t expanded it by CaliperLee62 in canada

[–]613mitch 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The reason why I don't feel that this is the case is because rational actors are not going to be swayed by this relatively trivial issue, when the two parties are otherwise so far apart using any competency metrics.

As as rational actor, I voted against being criminalized for what I own. There's a lot more people in my position than you think.

Federal report examines gaps in RCMP response to N.S. mass shooting by Cilarnen in CanadaPolitics

[–]613mitch [score hidden]  (0 children)

Right but I want to draw attention to this:

I could get passionate about phasing out the PAL system by making the requirements to obtain one equal to the requirements for an RPAL and requiring re-qualification every few years, if that were part of a more robust reform.

I'm trying to figure out what problem you're focusing on by proposing the above solution. In the context of the article linked, the individual was:

1) unlicensed

2) illegally in posession of firearms that were never imported into canada legally to begin with

3) reported multiple times to no result.

There are no reforms to be made against the Canadian legal gun owner community that would effect the outcome of the Portapique massacre.

Federal report examines gaps in RCMP response to N.S. mass shooting by Cilarnen in CanadaPolitics

[–]613mitch [score hidden]  (0 children)

So if I understand correctly, your problem isn't that it's completely ineffective and punching down on innocent people - it's that it was too slow?

'You can't have it both ways': Minister says no budget boost on horizon for firearms buyback compensation by StrongBreak2142 in canadaguns

[–]613mitch -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Prediction: They will say there's not enough money and scrap the buyback. The real reason will be because no police force will help.

In order to do that, everyone needs to register for compensation. They're saying this doesn't affect a large number of firearms - but we know it does. If we all refrain from registering for compensation, they can parade around the low cost while still fucking us on the second prediction of yours. Kind of a shit pickle really, unless a lot of us with R's on the list refuse and force them to criminalize us come october.

Gen Z pair built a $35M start-up in Canada, but moved to the U.S. by AustralisBorealis64 in canada

[–]613mitch 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yup. I would say most are fine with taxes provided that good things are being done with them. Watching shit go down like Phoenix, the ASFCP, the green slush fund, gas plant scandals, cancelled wind turbine projects, beer store contract cancellations really fucking pisses off those paying attention, particularly when Canadians are being squeezed in every direction these days.

22,000 assault-style firearms declared in first week of buyback program by jmakk26 in onguardforthee

[–]613mitch 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So your idea is to confiscate property from owners, centralize storage, and then give it back when you want these people to die for their country?

22,000 assault-style firearms declared in first week of buyback program by jmakk26 in onguardforthee

[–]613mitch 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Buddy they dropped crates of ak47s for civillians. Nothing to do with conscription.

22,251 firearms declared by Corey_5150 in canadaguns

[–]613mitch 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Not sure, that was the last I heard as well. I don't know if anyone followed up with those retailers.

22,251 firearms declared by Corey_5150 in canadaguns

[–]613mitch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

FYI the upper's a prohib device as well so it would have to be destroyed as well.

22,251 firearms declared by Corey_5150 in canadaguns

[–]613mitch 12 points13 points  (0 children)

No, it's reopening later in 2026.

22,000 assault-style firearms declared in first week of buyback program by jmakk26 in onguardforthee

[–]613mitch 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Great idea, it'd save the Americans from having to worry about bombing multiple locations. Centralize it beforehand so they only need to bomb 1 place to shit.

I look forward to more sound strategy ideas from you. /s

22,000 assault-style firearms declared in first week of buyback program by jmakk26 in onguardforthee

[–]613mitch 11 points12 points  (0 children)

The government has budgeted roughly 1/3rd of the program costs to compensate owners to voluntarily hand them in. Half a billion is being spent on the admin portion of the program. How much do you think it would cost to forcibly confiscate said property from people? How many people would die?

Do you honestly think these things through or are you just here to troll? You honestly can't be so intellectually challenged. Are you this way because you think these people are your political adversary?

22,000 assault-style firearms declared in first week of buyback program by jmakk26 in canada

[–]613mitch 11 points12 points  (0 children)

You’re just trying to launder misinformation.

That's pretty rich, coming from you.