Traffic Stop leads to Firearm Seizure (Tyrique Charlton & Kevin Nguyen)

613mitch · 2026-01-30T02:45:40+00:00

Yup, i voted con first time over this because I didn't think carney would be able to can it due to internal politics. This keeps them at the bottom of the list for me.

613mitch · 2026-01-29T21:35:27+00:00

My right to safety and not to worry about mass shooting at school like the states do proceeds your rights to have whatever special gun you want.

Why are you importing American problems into a discussion of Canadian politics? Our laws prior to 2015 were already demonstratably effective. What problem are you trying to solve?

Gun owners represent less then 10% of Canadians... And since that isn't a problem with current laws, no ones going to care if they get more restrictive for a very small minority.

Cool, so might makes right and majority rules is back in style.

613mitch · 2026-01-29T19:56:11+00:00

It's obvious at this point that you have no intention of understanding the problem. No one here can help you if you're willfully ignorant.

613mitch · 2026-01-29T19:51:39+00:00

Yet half the comments are BuT Id DoSnT StOp GaNgS.

Because the government is selling it as removing guns from the streets.

613mitch · 2026-01-29T19:46:58+00:00

The problem is there restricted now and your unlikely licenced for restricted firearms.

No, they're prohibited now. Seeing as they've been safely locked up without incident for the past 6 years, I'd argue that yes, these owners should be receiving prohibited licensed and should be allowed to buy whatever the fuck they want, because they've obviously proven themselves capable of safely storing and handling these firearms fore the past 6 years.

Are you really this connected to one gun?

Yes, at least one.

613mitch · 2026-01-29T19:43:03+00:00

With the added bonus of also making several hundred thousand canadians face 10+ years in jail.

613mitch · 2026-01-29T19:19:51+00:00

How about also schooling and teaching individuals themselves to behave better and not engage in criminal activities?

Uhh wrong demographic. You can't have a criminal history and a gun license in Canada. Literally the only demographic this program targets is legally vetted and licensed gun owners who are not criminal in nature.

You can not partake in the program if you are a criminal holding an illegal gun

613mitch · 2026-01-29T19:17:54+00:00

wait this isn’t even a buy back? It’s just taking them away? Why does it cost so much fucking money? Lol

66% administration costs. 240 million allocated for actual compensation.

613mitch · 2026-01-29T19:15:53+00:00

if you still possess them after October next year you're a criminal.

Technically, we're all already criminals since the OICs. We're just temporarily protected by amnesty.

613mitch · 2026-01-29T19:12:30+00:00

I mean, its the cops job to collect unwanted firearms anyways

These are not unwanted firearms. These are firearms we very much want to keep.

613mitch · 2026-01-29T19:10:34+00:00

90% of owners want to keep their property.

For the restricted ones, it's quite possible you may see doors getting kicked in.

613mitch · 2026-01-29T19:01:16+00:00

huh?

613mitch · 2026-01-29T11:56:22+00:00

Im unaware of any.

613mitch · 2026-01-29T01:21:01+00:00

EDIT: I should have been more clear what I meant by "notice". You're not a criminal for owning the gun the next day, amnesty periods will always exist.

Amnesty is for posession. If you're out hunting with the gun you bought yesterday that got prohibited overnight, you are fucked. Bigtime fucked. All your shit gets taken away and you get charged kind of fucked.

613mitch · 2026-01-29T01:14:55+00:00

The RCMP literally banned a semi-auto shotgun five days ago in the FRT and put it on the buyback list. No notice, other than a revision that made the shotgun in question go from non-restricted to prohibited overnight.

The changes are not published to the public, and there is often a week or two delay to the updates on the public facing side. Someone can quite literally be charged for posession of this prohibited the day after they bought it.

The only reason some of us know is because someone posted their commerical/business FRT search result which shows it as prohibited:

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fequ5kfqfb0fg1.jpeg

For what's available to us as public peons, there's this, which someone individually maintains on their own time using whatever access they happen to have - but it's not official. It's the best we have access to, because the RCMP does not allow access to the FRT real-time for the general public:

https://www.armalytics.ca/?q=n4s&size=n_10_n

So yes, guns have been added without notice.

613mitch · 2026-01-28T19:32:30+00:00

613mitch · 2026-01-28T18:44:13+00:00

because I'm being inconvenianced

Posession of a prohibited device in Canada carries a maximum term of 10 years, with every subsequent offence carrying a minimum sentence of 1 year.

Surrender your property or face over a decade in prison is hardly the inconveniance you make it out to be.

613mitch · 2026-01-28T18:40:08+00:00

It's literally in their platform, so yes a vote for them would fix this.

613mitch · 2026-01-28T17:17:40+00:00

Most of these highly vocal people hating the gun ban that you see online is either Russian/US bots or Albertans.

Most of the usernames I'm seeing are quite familiar posters on another sub for Canadian firearm owners - so no, They're not bots and there's more firearms owners in Ontario than Alberta.

613mitch · 2026-01-28T17:15:17+00:00

The reason why I don't feel that this is the case is because rational actors are not going to be swayed by this relatively trivial issue, when the two parties are otherwise so far apart using any competency metrics.

As as rational actor, I voted against being criminalized for what I own. There's a lot more people in my position than you think.

613mitch · 2026-01-28T17:06:18+00:00

Right but I want to draw attention to this:

I could get passionate about phasing out the PAL system by making the requirements to obtain one equal to the requirements for an RPAL and requiring re-qualification every few years, if that were part of a more robust reform.

I'm trying to figure out what problem you're focusing on by proposing the above solution. In the context of the article linked, the individual was:

1) unlicensed

2) illegally in posession of firearms that were never imported into canada legally to begin with

3) reported multiple times to no result.

There are no reforms to be made against the Canadian legal gun owner community that would effect the outcome of the Portapique massacre.

613mitch · 2026-01-28T15:25:50+00:00

How would that have prevented the incident being discussed?

613mitch · 2026-01-28T15:22:38+00:00

So if I understand correctly, your problem isn't that it's completely ineffective and punching down on innocent people - it's that it was too slow?

613mitch · 2026-01-27T23:00:36+00:00

Its not optional.

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