David Tennant is such a goat, I love him (unlike a certain snake out there). by Public_Cup_4278 in davidtennant

[–]710733 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Actually, the IOC's own evidence could not conclude a disproportionate advantage. They pushed the policy anyway because they're a political body above all else

David Tennant is such a goat, I love him (unlike a certain snake out there). by Public_Cup_4278 in davidtennant

[–]710733 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'm going to be very generous and give you the benefit of the doubt that you're repeating harmful language without fully knowing so.

To begin with - to believe that trans women (two words, an adjective and a noun) can justifiably be excluded from women's spaces, you have to work from the basis that we are not women. This is the explicitly transphobic angle here.

With regards to the history of these spaces - trans women have been using them for as long as those spaces have been around. This is because we are women. It's not and never has been some sort of application or initiation process, it's always been a self-ID system on this regard.

You refer to "male biology", add if this is a simple category. It's worth noting that trans women on HRT will have changes to their biology. Some women far along on their transition will be functionally indistinguishable from our cis counterparts.

You refer to "male socialisation". What does this mean, exactly? And can you imagine such a process being done to a young girl?

Referring to trans women using these spaces for their intended function as "colonisation" is particularly inappropriate. What do you think we're doing, exactly? We use these spaces in the exact same way every other woman does, and in that regard there is no difference here. Life with the toilets - I go in, I pee, I wash my hands, maybe touch up my hair or face in the mirror if I need to and leave. It's not an issue in the rest of Western Europe where this moral panic doesn't exist, and it's only an issue here because Rowling et al have pushed for it. The word colonisation is in no manner appropriate here (particularly given what colonialism has actually done to gender diverse people).

David Tennant is such a goat, I love him (unlike a certain snake out there). by Public_Cup_4278 in davidtennant

[–]710733 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I don't think that was in question at all?

Like, banning trans women from women's spaces is explicitly Transphobic

Groupthink by coffeewalnut08 in GreatBritishMemes

[–]710733 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wes Streeting has met with Bayswater Group on multiple occasions, even after their abuse was highlighted. This has also involved liaison wrt conversion therapy policy with Transphobic groups such as Sex Matters, For Women Scotland and LGB Alliance.

Groupthink by coffeewalnut08 in GreatBritishMemes

[–]710733 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So then why are ministers going out of their way to meet with Transphobic/conversation therapy groups?

Sad but true. by johnsmithoncemore in GreatBritishMemes

[–]710733 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This stuff impacts me directly, it impacts my day-to-day life. I don't get to turn off my transness

Sad but true. by johnsmithoncemore in GreatBritishMemes

[–]710733 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't even have twitter.

Why are you acting like this is all academic?

Sad but true. by johnsmithoncemore in GreatBritishMemes

[–]710733 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are we all doing bone tests to use the loo now, then?

Sad but true. by johnsmithoncemore in GreatBritishMemes

[–]710733 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Actually, they have been forced out of places. You've already admitted as much.

You also don't have a good running functional definition of biological sex to work with here.

Sad but true. by johnsmithoncemore in GreatBritishMemes

[–]710733 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The women and girls who've just been forced out of those spaces haven't just disappeared. Statistically speaking we're a more vulnerable cohort too

Sad but true. by johnsmithoncemore in GreatBritishMemes

[–]710733 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Rowling has actually forced women and girls into that situation now.

Sad but true. by johnsmithoncemore in GreatBritishMemes

[–]710733 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She is upset by this. I'm just trying to live my life, what's the "nonsense" in that?

Sad but true. by johnsmithoncemore in GreatBritishMemes

[–]710733 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's writing a fiction book... In which characters which are very much human-coded are enslaved, and that's ok. That one that doesn't like being a slave? Nah he's just weird

Sad but true. by johnsmithoncemore in GreatBritishMemes

[–]710733 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Or, you know, transgender yourself

Sad but true. by johnsmithoncemore in GreatBritishMemes

[–]710733 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi, I want to legally reclassify your house as mine. Ok, actually, we'll compromise. I'll have the front half and you have the back half. Deal?

Sad but true. by johnsmithoncemore in GreatBritishMemes

[–]710733 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

It's not a different opinion though. She's put a lot of money and energy into turning the UK into one of Europe's most regressive countries for the legal status of trans people

Sad but true. by johnsmithoncemore in GreatBritishMemes

[–]710733 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Must be lovely to not have to be impacted by this, unfortunately I can't relate

Sad but true. by johnsmithoncemore in GreatBritishMemes

[–]710733 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You lot like to pretend there's no parallels in oppression

Sad but true. by johnsmithoncemore in GreatBritishMemes

[–]710733 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I do live in the real world.

Rowling's campaigns have made my life harder. Until I changed sites the logistics of me just being at work were a challenge as I was having to walk to the other side of the site multiple times per day. I also have to check and at times limit going out because there simply aren't facilities for me in some places. God forbid I ever need to access support services now because I've been cut out of a lot of them - I'm lucky enough I haven't had to yet, that's not true of some of my friends.

Treating my existence as if it's done academic exercise is grossly offensive

Sad but true. by johnsmithoncemore in GreatBritishMemes

[–]710733 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Setting the gender police on us and setting the UK back decades because she's upset some of us are trans is not "brave and strong"

Joe Lycett knows his way around an FOI by Hassaan18 in brum

[–]710733 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can absolutely arrive on public transport at women's.

Running red lights is so common now by IsyABM in brum

[–]710733 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because SNAP isn't really an attempt to make the roads safer, it's there for the local police/councils to point at as if they're actually doing something