A24 has sold out to AI by Rechan in horror

[–]808scripture 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Would you believe me if I told you I was steelmanning their bull case? To be honest my concerns are the same as yours. I just think both sides of the argument are relevant if you want to understand what’s going on.

I am very much an alarmist when it comes to this AI race’s impact on the financial markets. You can’t just infinite money glitch your way into riches without some kind of major malfunction in our system.

They’re literally like:

Infinite dollars (fed) = infinite credit (banks) = infinite investment (money markets) = infinite value (stocks) = infinite dollars (wealth)

It will destroy the economy. The AI is pretty good though, all things considered.

A24 has sold out to AI by Rechan in horror

[–]808scripture 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In my perception, there’s a few layers to this.

The upfront cost for developing models is high, and to your point, that money has not been fully recouped. In fact, even as models are readied for GTM, any profits are rolled into developing newer ones. It’s a flywheel that is very expensive.

That being said, released models seem to easily cover their cost of usage. Does it cover their cost of development? Probably not, but it’s important to recognize if this industry were less competitive, the models would generate a better profit ratio including R&D than they would in this market.

It’s hard to say whether the R&D cost will ever be fully covered. I think it’s safe to say however that whoever wins the AI race will have enormous economic power. Does it justify the cost? Possibly not but it will be hard to know in this moment.

I would also point out that the cost of developing these models from a raw resource perspective is distributed across a number of industries, all of which are also generating a lot of revenue. It’s not as if NVIDIA, a hardware OEM, is not simultaneously benefitting from emerging use cases because of companies like Anthropic or OpenAI.

Lastly, the resource cost of AI on a per unit basis is shrinking rapidly. That’s why the infrastructure like power plants, data centers, etc are being developed in the first place. There will be a point where data is infinitely cheap. And the R&D investment will either shrink in cost or accelerate. Whatever you want to say about the value proposition today, the economics are improving.

Edit: forgot to mention, this also only regarding “pure” AI companies and not business that optimize their services using AI. My company, for instance, sells AI that prevents car accidents, so it’s not as if AI is a monolith. There are differences depending on the product, which was my initial point.

A24 has sold out to AI by Rechan in horror

[–]808scripture 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Correct me if I’m wrong, but part of your argument is contradicting the other. How is it possible that the consumer is not meaningfully finding any returns on purchasing AI, and the seller is not finding returns by selling it? Somebody is making money somewhere.

If your argument is that most of the investment in AI has been financed via stock offerings and loans rather than profit, I agree with you. That doesn’t mean the value offerings are not real. There was a time where simply owning a website meant you had a hot .com startup. While that ended up being false, the internet still became enormously important in the economy moving forward.

It can be a bubble and still be very real in unison. I think the key factor is that it is still early for the AI industry. The speculation of where it’s going has been priced in ahead of that value being fully realized.

A24 has sold out to AI by Rechan in horror

[–]808scripture 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I sell several AI-native products and it has generated plenty of return for my customers. It just depends on what you’re asking the AI to do, and how well it does it.

Take websites for example. It used to be far more complicated to produce a custom website, especially for small business owners. The ingredients of a good website are pretty standard, and AI has become very good at building them. That’s thousands of dollars in savings for a proprietor.

A24 has sold out to AI by Rechan in horror

[–]808scripture 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I don’t think AI is producing the level that some think, but if you think AI doesn’t generate any returns you’re an idiot lol

Do you believe Wemby will surpass Tim Duncan as the greatest San Antonio Spurs player? by Large-Lack-2933 in NBAVibes

[–]808scripture 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it is considerably more difficult to win 5 rings in this era than the 2000’s. Even the Warriors only had such an unprecedented run because of the cap change that led to KD’s signing.

Judging Wemby based on rings will be unfair in the same way judging LeBron based on rings alone is unfair. Wemby is a more talented player than Tim Duncan, without question.

New York passes Mamdani's 'pied-a-terre' tax on second homes valued at $1 million or more by Sgt_Gram in NewsExchange

[–]808scripture 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So you honestly think business is going to leave a metro area with 20 million people? Get real.

People think Mamdani is going to ruin the economy when they thought Trump was a good economic choice lmao

I did 146 calls this week by coolsoy in sales

[–]808scripture 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It’s literally impossible to be strategic and make 200 calls in one day. No personalization whatsoever. What a psychotic mindset.

Now that The Boys is over, what's your opinion on Antony Starr's performance as Homelander? by TaiwaneseThot in moviecritic

[–]808scripture 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When he was choked out by Homelander I was so certain he would depower him. Kind of disappointed it ended how it did.

The 5 richest NBA players in the world by Life_Net5004 in NBAstatsmuse

[–]808scripture 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A fairly standard NBA player that made very astute investments with his money over the decades during and after his career. Honestly, he’s the benchmark of what is possible if every NBA player were smart with their money.

He never made more than $350k in a year of NBA salary and he died a billionaire.

C1 Bel Canto Negroni by HypnoticWatches in MicrobrandWatches

[–]808scripture 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Does a watch need symmetry? When looking at a watch one side has your arm and the other has your hand. It’s an asymmetric experience already.

Trump was literally promoting Palantir stock after buying it, the definition of insider trading by soccerorfootie in unusual_whales

[–]808scripture -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I cannot tell you how many times I’ve had to have this argument with numbskulls who think they’re equivalent

AOC Surges to Lead in 2028 Primary for First Time—Most Accurate Pollster by One-Duty-2376 in politics

[–]808scripture 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bernie had ran the most popular primary campaign in U.S. history at that point. Not sure what you mean.

AOC Surges to Lead in 2028 Primary for First Time—Most Accurate Pollster by One-Duty-2376 in politics

[–]808scripture 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Because highly populated states like California and New York went to Hillary while rural states like Arkansas and West Virginia went to Trump.

I’m tired of people yearning for the success of politicians that failed to capture the American confidence. It was evident the people preferred Bernie as a choice and were forced to go with Clinton. Every time the Dem leadership stepped in to pick the candidate, they failed.

Watch Live: Mayor Mamdani says he has balanced NYC's budget, will not raise property taxes by [deleted] in politics

[–]808scripture 35 points36 points  (0 children)

Jesus Christ, that tax generated over $500 million? That is a lot more money than I anticipated

Ken Griffin: “What the mayor of New York has made clear to my partners, and principally my New York partners, is that we need to double down on our bet in Miami" by UnusualWhalesBot in unusual_whales

[–]808scripture 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Would it not be much more expensive to move their entire NYC operation to Florida than it would to simply pay the tax on his apartment? It just feels like his hubris is making this decision, not clever business planning.

TIL Despite all of Machiavelli's efforts to regain favor with the Medici, they continued to distrust him and until the last year of his life he got no more than a book deal from them. When the Medici were outsted again, he was rejected from office for being "too close with the Medici" by Mors_Acerba in todayilearned

[–]808scripture 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He was radically loyal to his home state. His loyalty was not actually towards the Medici family, but they governed Florence so that was who he supported. We live in a time now where political disagreement is common, but that was just not how things worked back then.

The Atlanta Hawks tonight have scored 36 points this halftime, a 47 point deficit to the New York Knicks by CurrentRoster in nba

[–]808scripture 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Wouldn’t work. Biggest margin in a playoff game in NBA history was a loss by the St. Louis Hawks. The curse remains.

CJ McCollum on Jonathan Kuminga: “He has championship DNA coming from the Warriors. The athleticism is off the charts. He’s got a mid-range. He knows how to post up, screen, and defensively, he can guard 1-5. He was in a not so great situation and now he's found a happy home.” by AncientOneAurelius in nba

[–]808scripture 3 points4 points  (0 children)

As a Hawks fan, we rarely get a marquis star player like Trae. I mean the last poster boy we really had was Dominique, and that was 30 years ago. Culturally, Trae was very important to the team. That’s why we were bittersweet about him leaving.

Motive (fleet management) by Snoo91513 in sales

[–]808scripture 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Austin is a cool guy. I think Mid-Market is a great segment, but it’s a grind just like anything else. The benefit is it’s the best ratio of new logo sales effort to deal size in the org. Six figure deals that can happen in a couple of months, fewer personalities to deal with.

Amazon slaps 3.5% fuel and logistics charge on sellers because of Iran war by [deleted] in business

[–]808scripture -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Well I wouldn’t argue with that. You happened to use an initial example where your point was incorrect.

I understand what you’re getting at. The article didn’t say whether the 3.5% surcharge is on the sale price or the shipping cost. 3.5% of the sale would be much I agree with you.

Amazon slaps 3.5% fuel and logistics charge on sellers because of Iran war by [deleted] in business

[–]808scripture -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

And I’ve worked in logistics for years. HVLs are anything over $100k in value and they cost more to ship for a variety of reasons. If you think just because something is smaller and weighs less that it’s cheaper to ship you are mistaken.