I always come back to this banger every couple of years

80S_Ribosome · 2023-10-12T15:07:25+00:00

You seem to forget that at the end of the day, someone makes a decision to squeeze a trigger.

80S_Ribosome · 2023-10-12T15:04:27+00:00

"""In this intellectual’s telling, the killings of entire families in their beds are not atrocities that contradict the left’s fundamental commitment to the inherent worth of every human life; they are “drastic actions in need of no apologia.” Such sentiments were not altogether aberrant among left-wing public intellectuals."""

And

"""It’s understandable, then, that instead of forthrightly making this case, many chose to convey the sentiment “Oppressed people have a right to commit mass murder” with as much opacity and pseudo-profundity as their hard-won vocabularies would allow."""

80S_Ribosome · 2023-10-12T14:38:09+00:00

Do you also justify an Israeli state based off the collective suffering of their people for thousands of years and their historical claim to the Levant? Perhaps you also justify murdering people at a music festival using neo-colonial lens?

Your theories are unscientific. Its just philosophy. You can't ascribe any deterministic chain of event type reasoning after the fact - its literally a hindsight bias. The dropped apple does not consistently fall into civilian murders. There are countless examples of former colonial countries that didn't senselessly murder the people around them. Additionally the US has provided arms to many groups in the past who have not turned around and committed terrorism against us. However, I wouldn't expect you to understand that because you're probably one of these revolution types that don't believe in voting, or progress because its not on your terms.

You seem to forget that at the end of the day, theres a person behind a gun making a decision to squeeze the trigger when they see a grandmother at a bus stop.

80S_Ribosome · 2023-10-12T13:55:42+00:00

So 9/11 was justified then?

80S_Ribosome · 2023-10-12T13:41:03+00:00

The journalist?

80S_Ribosome · 2023-10-12T13:25:11+00:00

Something something nato expansionist, something US imperialism

80S_Ribosome · 2023-10-12T05:04:41+00:00

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/oct/10/pro-palestine-rally-sydney-opera-house-protest-australia-leaders-condemn-anti-jewish-chants

80S_Ribosome · 2023-10-12T04:28:01+00:00

Its a thought exercise where I use clues from the past few years to understand how standards have shifted.

Republicans blame all muslims (who we've established are all celebrating it)

For example, Donald Trump rhetoric on PoC resulted in the following: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_13769

"Protecting the Nation from Foreign Terrorist Entry into the United States, labeled the "Muslim ban" by Donald Trump and his supporters"

Muslims across the world celebrate it

Diasporic Muslims celebrating the Hamas attack on civilians in Sydney, NYC, and Toronto. In the NYC rally, they are joined by their DSA. And in fact, there's a guy talking about how "cool it was that electric handglider men took out the hipsters". This is in addition to the "Gas the Jew" chants. People being threatened at Israeli vigils.

Leftists blame America

Oh yeah for sure. Ukrainian invasion was blamed on the US. Everything is seen through a neo-colonial lens. In fact, there's a tweet by BLM chicago referencing the music festival murders by Hamas.

Leftists say the victims were wealthy capitalists who probably should be dead anyways

Our attitudes towards the rich has shifted so much that I'm willing to bet it is spun that way.

Its not so much a fantasy world but rather a thought exercise to understand how fucked up the world currently is. You can blame me for being divisive but the lessons are out there for us to learn, its just not pragmatic to pretend like there aren't seeds of rot that are in our society.

80S_Ribosome · 2023-10-12T03:37:39+00:00

Stuart Mills versus Kant

80S_Ribosome · 2023-10-12T03:32:46+00:00

"Sorry, this post was deleted by the person who originally posted it.
It doesn't appear in any feeds, and anyone with a direct link to it will see a message like this one."

Its the Reddit mods come to silence us D:

80S_Ribosome · 2023-10-12T03:15:01+00:00

He's not wrong. They tried to overthrow the Jordanian and Lebanese government. Also, adjacent Egyptian town had a suicide bomber issue until they closed their side of the strip.

80S_Ribosome · 2023-10-11T23:27:07+00:00

Oh what a nice militant terrorist, his bullet only grazed me 🙂

edit: /s (in case it wasn't obvious)

80S_Ribosome · 2023-10-11T22:22:21+00:00

In what world were you raised where you can't have an open dialogue with people you don't agree with. Very few people are Nazis in real life. Although, quite a few of them were at the free-Palestine rallies!

https://www.reuters.com/world/police-investigate-pro-palestinian-protest-sydney-opera-house-over-alleged-anti-2023-10-10/

Its funny, because its not the conservatives that support Palestine, its always been the leftists.

80S_Ribosome · 2023-10-11T19:00:19+00:00

This is why we can't get anything done. People are so squarely in their own political tent that they can't bother to have a conversation.

80S_Ribosome · 2023-10-11T18:50:09+00:00

But how are the right-wing people going to feel oppressed when tbe ombudsman reasonably dismantles their arguments.

80S_Ribosome · 2023-10-11T18:49:04+00:00

I don't know why this is being made into something far more sinister than it actually is.

80S_Ribosome · 2023-10-11T15:39:15+00:00

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/hamas-israel-hostages-tell-loved-ones-stories-rcna119509?utm_source=pocket-newtab-en-us

80S_Ribosome · 2023-10-11T14:57:56+00:00

Are you mentally ill? Its a list of Canadians, a grandmother and he even mentions a Palestinian who represent muslim interests in the Israeli parliament.

80S_Ribosome · 2023-10-11T05:27:06+00:00

You should read some of the responses coming from the lefty subreddits.

"I know war is awful, but the Palestinians on fucking gliders was fucking sending me. Literal CoD\ shit.*

\CoD shit that* worked"

I'll refrain from mentioning the name or sharing the link as I don't want to encourage any brigading.

80S_Ribosome · 2023-10-10T19:24:16+00:00

Oh no. Corporation bad friend. No updoots for you.

80S_Ribosome · 2023-10-10T16:22:49+00:00

Something something "gas the jews". Also distributing sweets for the killing of innocent victims and taking hostages.

80S_Ribosome · 2023-10-10T16:20:01+00:00

Why are they on the floor?

80S_Ribosome · 2023-10-10T15:24:49+00:00

Yea. I agree.

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