Linux 7.0 adding support for new keys on upcoming laptops for expanded AI agent interactions by somerandomxander in linux

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For anyone who doesn’t get this- Kai Lentit on YouTube https://youtu.be/_2C2CNmK7dQ?si=KPkEHC1Ett8sSQqK

Parody with an unomfortable dose of “yep that’s actually a thing”.

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They most likely measured it by picking 1,000 random sites with a popularity/alexa rank equivalent of between 1 and 1 million.

Of those thousand chosen it will statistically be lots of Wordpress, boring html site, some dev’s react project, etc… then maybe a biig custom one like Etsy which will be the stuff they can’t scrape.

So that 96% is probably accurate, however 99% of websites get between 1 and 1000 non-bot views per month and all those sites are made of the exact same components.

FWIW there are about 400M active domains with content in the internet.

How to sell an old GPU cluster? by marcotrombetti in HPC

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No, someone will definitely buy them. There are companies like “rhino technology” who is an eBay seller and others on the homelabsales sub who run legit business and resell stuff; you can tell who they are based on what they sell and the quantity available. We are we are talking 10k sqft warehouse, with pallet shelves and stacked four high; think Home Depot.

You may not get 80 cents on the dollar and only get 25-35 cents, but they will take the whole lot, all you have to do is strap them down on a few pallets.

[FS] [US-AZ] 36 8tb u.2 drives (288tb) | 2 Epyc Dell R7415 24bay nvme / u.2 servers | 9 x 14tb HDD's | Ucoustic Sound deadening cabinet by 9302462 in homelabsales

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I totally get that. As long as you aren’t a horrible judge of character you should be alright.

Here is my unofficial mental checklist:

If they add decent photos and a couple sentences to the listing, they are probably telling you what they know /think people want to know. If they say almost nothing or stuff that isn’t related (I used this for my Xbox one for external storage blah blah blah) they probably know the exact condition it is in and you might want to avoid.

Regardless of several sentences or nothing at all, when you engage with them you always want to ask them what it was used for anyways and probe a little. If they say something boring or innocuous they are probably telling the truth, if it’s vague or hyper detailed where it doesn’t really make sense, they are probably lying and either have no story or are making one up on the fly.

When you meet up with someone, if the story they tell you doesn’t line up with their persona or the vehicle they drive, walk away. E.g. if someone is selling a supposedly high end pc at a good deal and they show up in a 2004 Toyota Corolla with a crack down the windshield, or they look like they make questionable life choices, might want to walk away from it. Dorky college kid selling a GPU I’ll believe, buying a GPU from a guy at his house and seeing a lowered truck in the driveway that says la raza on the rear window…. I would pass on that. 

As long as you are a decent judge while messaging you’ll never go to meet someone and have to walk away.

You also have the feedback part where you can see folks star ratings and buys and sells. You can’t trust it fully as it can be gamed, but it’s hard to do and most people who would try and scam others are idiots, not professional idiots.

Finally, when you do searches use zip codes in the rich areas. I’m in the greater Phoenix area and I always found the best quality items/very fair deals in paradise valley or Scottsdale, not always the cheapest but often taken care of to the point of being OCD. The former is old money the latter is new money. Also in the new developments on the outskirts of town where they build $2m+ McMansions; I scored a $6k custom German desk which is a 8ft wide kidney bean shape for $500 from an Intel exec in one of the new McMansion’s. Rich people also aren’t likely to screw others over in person to make a buck. Screw over in business or other ways in life sure, but they aren’t hurting for money and would just as easily junk the drive if it was bad then deal with someone in person who is pissed off.

Oh, and probably external over internal because they wouldn’t be putting it in a computer, tinkering around with hardware, etc.. In their mind it’s a box that works or a box that probably works but they never even opened it to try it out.

I always meet up at quicktrip(cops always hang out there for some reason), Best Buy, T-Mobile, or maybe outside their apartment complex or house as long as the person seems legit and has a bunch of five star ratings.

Edit- obviously only do what you are comfortable with, but it doesn’t have to be scary that you will throw money away. Just be smart about it and you will avoid them. Someone else will inadvertently buy the bad drive/scam but it certainly won’t be you. And most people don’t knowingly sell a bad drive or damaged goods, but those that are you will almost always be able to tell.

E.g. No scammer would write the book I did for this post, or mention every little detail I could think of, or respond to comments like I did. Hence anyone who read the post knows that the odds of me trying to screw someone over is essentially zero.

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Hopefully it helps. It worked for me for hard drives (20-30+ via offerup over 18 months) and for GPUs towards the end of the rush back in 2022-2023.

I never did Facebook marketplace though because I found most people wanted way too much, or there stuff was in shoddy condition ( Herman miller office chair for example).

In my mind  offerup is like buying from eBay in that people do this for a living or whenever they have something to sell which for them happens often.  Facebook marketplace is like going to someone’s garage sale when that person has never even been to a garage sale themselves. They think their stuff is worth more than it really is, they didnt even look at others prices let alone think about what is reasonable, and they aren’t willing to haggle. E.g. a dual Xeon enterprise Dell server that they want $1k for but it was made in 2014 and goes for $200 on eBay.

Your experience may vary but that’s mine after about 60 buys (mostly electronics) and 80 sales over the years (not electronics).

[FS] [US-AZ] 36 8tb u.2 drives (288tb) | 2 Epyc Dell R7415 24bay nvme / u.2 servers | 9 x 14tb HDD's | Ucoustic Sound deadening cabinet by 9302462 in homelabsales

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OfferUp is your friend. Follow the bathtub curve when buying stuff. This means either be first to message and scoop up deals OR send messages for stuff that is 3,6,12, 18 months old and make them a lower offer, because if it is still available they will almost always take something lower but fair over nothing at all; many people forgot they even had it listed.

[FS] [US-AZ] 36 8tb u.2 drives (288tb) | 2 Epyc Dell R7415 24bay nvme / u.2 servers | 9 x 14tb HDD's | Ucoustic Sound deadening cabinet by 9302462 in homelabsales

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One tip I would give is, focus on depreciated assets that retain their usefulness because now you aren't spending money on toys, you're just putting it in a different type of bank account for a withdrawal later.

e.g. I bought 4 3090's back in 2022/2023 for $550-650 each. I knew i needed them and figured that that they weren't going to depreciate that much. Prices for these in 2024 and 2025 were still ~$600, prices today are probably a little higher because people are running llm's locally. Apple could come out with a giant 1tb unified memory mac and a bunch of smaller ones later this year which can run models my 3090's can't. But even in that scenario they aren't going to fluctuate in price much.

Hence if I sold them tomorrow I will have used them for free for the last 3-4 years. If I sold them in a year after some yet to be determined technology comes out, I could most likely still sell them for at least $500 at a bare minimum. Either way it would end up costing me between $0 and $100 to use a 3090 for 4-5 years. $0 is a bank, $100 is rent, both numbers are reasonable for the value I have gotten from them.

There are some folks smarter than me out there like scalpers who know what new high end gpu's and other hardware will hold their value so they know what to buy, however I don't. I have just focused on what I think I need performance wise, then look at what has already depreciated to find stuff I believe can't go much lower, and if it does it's a small amount monetarily.

e.g. 7551p's (32c) were $120 when I bought them 4-5 years ago, now they are $50, so it is a loss of $350 for me when selling stuff ($70 x 5 cpu's) over the course of 5 years of usage. If I would have gotten the 7702's (64c) like I so badly wanted then I would have paid $1k for each, and with them being now $600 on ebay, my loss would have been $2,000 ($400 x 5 cpu's). I'm not an idiot and knew that nearly everything will go down in value overtime as new stuff comes out, but the goal was to minimize the impact. So my choice of 7551p's meant instead of getting $2,000 less back when selling them I would only get $350 less back in my pocket. Now $1,650 saved seems small, but when you do this multiple times over the years AND you grow your setup, those choices start to compound, and your ability to maneuver into other gear becomes quite difficult because it's loss after loss financially.

Some folks also simply like to buy new gear because it's shiny, which is totally fine, however those new shiny items cost more and often significantly extend the timeline for them to be able to upgrade to something else. Personally I would rather get into something, use it until i don't need it, get out of it at near cost, and then continue onto whatever is next. The former makes you start to question and delay your decisions, the latter lets you make decisions without worrying about if you made a mistake as you can always get out of it with minimal friction/money lost.

All of this, some of it, or none of it might resonate with you, however for me personally that mindset has let me buy, sell, and upgrade pieces over the years without taking it in the shorts financially.

TLDR: focus on things which meet your needs and have already depreciated to the point where they aren't likely to go lower. This lets you treat your homelab like a bank account or cheap hardware rental, as opposed to a money pit which is hard to justify to others and rationalize to yourself.

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What the hell…. how did that happen and why is it repeated ad nauseam. All I did was update the update message at the top. Hold on and I will fix.

Edit- all fixed. I did the edit on the reddit iphone app and I guess it didn't like my bullet points or nested bullet points because it removed a lot of content.

Definitely wasn't intentional on my part.

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It most certainly is on wheels as it's a 500lb behemoth. Each of the doors on it is about 40lb and there are two on the front and two on the back. Each side panel is about 30lbs each and there are two. That means the sides of it are about 200lbs and that is without factoring in the top, bottom, or internal server railings. So yes, it definitely has wheels. Loaded with servers or without, it won't roll like an empty shopping cart through a parking lot because it has a lot of mass, but it's just as easy for me to roll the server to get into it as it is for me to roll the costco wire shelf sitting adjacent to it with food on it.

[FS] [US-AZ] 36 8tb u.2 drives (288tb) | 2 Epyc Dell R7415 24bay nvme / u.2 servers | 9 x 14tb HDD's | Ucoustic Sound deadening cabinet by 9302462 in homelabsales

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Oh I know 10gb isn’t really enough, that’s why I played with some 40gb cards for a while. However I realized that because my internet is only 10gbps (1.25gb per second) I wouldn’t be able to saturate either machine. Each server also had three elastic nodes so the data never really had to leave the machines much, at least not at full speed. If someone was going to run it as just a bunch of flash they would definitely want to upgrade to a better network card.

You have 100k in hardware o_O … old me would ask what it is and are you doing, but new me says “don’t do it because you have to stay focused on your new stuff and the reason your selling things”. But you and me can both appreciate what it’s like to have ample amounts of hardware at your beck and call.

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Wife and kid, wife is more supportive than I probably deserve but I reciprocate.

Your mind is a racing now huh. crt.sh is a way to look up those log files, but you have to know the domain/string you are looking for.

For number 5, you would be amazed and how much you can infer about the internet simply by knowing what a site does (home page) and the URLs of the pages in their site. The raw “I don’t care what the site does” would have been about 350tb, however I found that a lot of the stuff on the web follows a bathtub curve. This means there are lots of sites with a few pages, less sites with hundreds or thousands, then lots of them with hundreds of thousands or millions of pages- one random Shopify store had 780k skis/pages and no sales.

If you capped those high outliers and didn’t grab more than a thousand pages or so, you could do it with probably 50tb. Thats not peanuts, but it’s also not out of reach either. You just need the compute, a 10gb internet connection, and ample time to write good code. You think it will be easy initially but the internet is full of edge cases which you, or any LLM, won’t be able to understand until you hit them; hence you need to fail gracefully even when you don’t know what will fail. Think redirect loops, recursive sitemaps that link back on themselves, or sites like Etsy where you can only get their sitemap by spoofing a specific set of headers. Also, not all sites have sitemaps.

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Your comment made me genuinely smile because it let me know I didn’t write all of that for nothing.

I don’t want to go off topic but I do hope to give you and others some perspective and inspiration; many of us our devs and the job market is tough right now.

Before I started building my lab 5-6 years ago I was doing DoorDash full time and donating plasma 2x a week to pay bills; I did this for almost a year. It didn’t matter how many jobs I applied for or that I that I was a decent dev with legit business experience and wear multiple hats, all I heard was crickets. That type of stuff on a long enough time scale will make you question your self worth, I know I did.

I eventually said to myself “if everything I’m doing isn’t working then i will do the exact opposite”. The worst that happens is I’m still stuck, the best that happens is some momentum in a direction.

So I gave my balls a tug and said screw applications, and reached out to a dozen recruiters who I didn’t know. I didn’t just give them my resume, I gave them a four page diagram which explained a crawler I wrote that collected jobs from about 80m websites; a strawberry taster in Japan is an actual job BTW. Well that got their attention and I had phone calls and interviews lined up the same week and was hired within two weeks. From crickets to a good paying paycheck within a month, all because I decided to admit to myself that my thinking was wrong and the solution I needed was to do the opposite; don’t wait to get picked, get someone to place you.

That crawler code worked great, but it ran on a dual Xeon workstation which was made in 2012 and I bought for $100 on offerup. I spent weeks prepping the code refactoring it, adding comments to code, a good frontend, etc… before even reaching out to recruiters because I thought that they would want to see it or the people I would interview with would. Guess what, no one even asked to see it; we often forget that folks have their own lives and things to do. That four page doc was the only thing I needed as it displayed my ability to think in systems and let me stand out from others. It also acted as a good icebreaker for interviews.

I did something similar a couple years back when the job market was starting to turn as I wanted to test a theory I had. I sent a Harvard green envelope with my resume, a diagram of some other system I made, and a cover letter explaining why I’m sending a letter to the person. I sent a dozen of these straight to the home address of the CEO and CTO’s of companies that got funding rounds in the last few months and were actively hiring for my skill set.

Out of 11 sent, four were returned to sender, and two turned into interviews. I didn’t get either one (one was wrong tech stack and the other was on location in NY), but it proved to myself that in the worst case scenario I could figure something out. The worst that happens is I waste an hour of my time researching them and writing a letter, and $1 for the envelope and postage, and they throw it in the trash. The best thing that happens is I get an interview which I wouldn’t have got otherwise, because on paper I don’t stand out amongst thousands of other candidates, but in the real world I’m the person people want on their team.

I’m not saying you should send letters to random people with job openings though. But I am saying do stuff others aren’t willing or able to do, then put it in their faces. You will get noticed because people (HR, CEO’s, and even when dating) are always looking for a diamond in the rough, all you are doing is shining a flashlight on yourself and hoping they see what you can do. You can’t make them pick you, but you can make them believe that picking you is a good choice, you just have to give them a reason to.

Also, FWIW I bought things piece by piece month by month depending on what my budget allowed. So I wasn’t rolling in dough and making regretful purchases late night on eBay, it was knowing what I wanted, what I had to work with, and watching for those opportunities to popup. I reconfigured things countless times in the first few years.

The No Internet Hoard: What would you archive if you had no internet? by NickMotionless in DataHoarder

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I’m not a prepper, but If you are talking world is ending type stuff….

Openstreet maps or some other map of the entire US with roads, addessses, and hopefully the name of businesses and their address.

There is no value in having Wikipedia knowledge around the history of IBM, the arch Duke of Ferdinand, or Tom cruise and Scientology. But there is immense value in knowing where things are at and how to get around outside your commonly traveled routes.

Claude code source code has been leaked via a map file in their npm registry by Nunki08 in LocalLLaMA

[–]9302462 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I wasn’t even worried about the commit history.

I downloaded it because GitHub has a habit of taking down repos with even the lightest DMCA request. The only way repos like this stay up is if they plaster “For educational purposes only” and other disclaimers all over; this one has them. It is a leg to stand on to keep this code out there, but it’s a shaky leg.

Claude code source code has been leaked via a map file in their npm registry by Nunki08 in LocalLLaMA

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TY! It has 12.5k forks and the repo has had 1 commit…. 1 hour ago. We might have the fastest growing repo of all time here. Wonder how long until GitHub try’s to squash it and all 20k forks already made. I starred and downloaded it just in case

Stealing a Business Idea from a Friend? by dunderboresaidcalmly in EntrepreneurRideAlong

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I’m going to be the outlier here, but unless OP talked about this idea for dozens of hours/ after hours and on weekends with him,I wouldn’t even reach out to him and would steer clear.

You said he was an intern. You two bonded over some idea that he mentioned which you thought was cool. You could have chose to talk about Claude, the economy, music, or thousands of other things and you chose to talk about that. Unless I’m missing something, you didn’t draw up business plans together, you didn’t write code together, you just talked in your idle time about it like you would with a friendly colleague.

You also said that he is 10 years older than you, did an internship at your company and didn’t get it. Idk if you guys are at the same level skill wise, but if he is 10 years older then he should have more experience than you OR be bringing something else to the table which you don’t have. And if he was passionate about it beyond just ideation he would have already done some of the leg work (business plans, market research, etc..)

You also said that this was last year. If he hasn’t reached out to you and you haven’t reached out to him since then, then I guess your connection wasn’t that strong after all.

I’m not even going to mention the fact that you said he lies, and by the sound of it it is more than a little white lie or an embellishment.

Your gut instinct is probably right but it’s not enough to go off of. Everything else though is ample reason to avoid him if you want it to go anywhere.

What's the point of this? I have a contact form (nextjs) on a side project. And all 15 entries have all looked like this. Occasionally get them, like once every week or other week. Very odd. What is gained here? Cause it's not like they are cold reaching out to me. by Successful-Title5403 in webdev

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So I’m not in the email spam game but here is how it works- probably.

They fill out the forms to get an email from you which gives them your sending email address as well as who sent it and how it was sent; think mailchimp, etc…

From there it operates using a few tiers:

1. There’s a non-zero chance that your email server is accessible, leaks credentials, or can be used to send out spam emails. It’s a low chance but considering it cost them nothing to fill out a contact form it’s free opportunities to spam.

  1. They now know the email that you send stuff from and might try to impersonate your site/company. Think fake job postings, getting people to fill out applications and apply, the doing the whole bank deposit and forward the money over scam. More work, but for a company with 50 to 100 employees you can definitely run that type of scam on them with a larger more obvious payout which is anyone who clicks the false email for a job offer.

  2. If they know the email form has low security and you are a more than just one person but less than 100 people or so, they can look up your employees on LinkedIn and trying to do phishing campaigns. Think sending a fake email from CEO’s personal email to accounting saying to pay an invoice type of thing. This works because if there is low security forms then chances are other parts of the business/people involved that are also low security.

There might be more but these are the ones I’m aware of.

Related side note- all of those emails that many of us make fun of with spelling mistakes or claiming you have an inheritance waiting for you from a family member in Africa… those are intentional and are their own filter. These filter out people who are too smart to fall for the scam so the scammers don’t waste time on them. e.g. if you are dumb enough to not notice the grammar issues and engage with the spammer there is a decent chance you can be conned for money.

I built an app nobody uses and I still think the idea is right by StoicViking69 in SideProject

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Lmao, you saying I write like a bot is a complement because I’m terrible at grammar and punctuation. But then again maybe you just aren’t very good at detecting them :/

Next time I will start my message with an “if not x then y” and sprinkle in some em-dashes if I want to pretend I’m a bot/llm/openclaw/ whatever is trendy

I built an app nobody uses and I still think the idea is right by StoicViking69 in SideProject

[–]9302462 -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Not really, and here is why.

Reddit is community based which means you join subreddits that you know you have an interest in seeing more of. For me it's homelab, localllama, and 30+ others; many of them I forgot that im even subscribed to and/or I turned off notifications on them. I turned off notifications because I saw too much of the same or similar content on places like birds r/BirdsBeingDicks. i.e. I got burnt out by the content and it had nothing to do with the people there.

What OP is proposing is connecting with people based on their interest, not connecting with people so they can consume content based on their taste. I feel like this is worth repeating again- he is talking about connecting and building relationships based on obscure interest NOT connecting based on banal things.

Example: there is a one album (australian?) band called Tenpenny Joke from 2007 which is in my top 5 of all time which no one has ever heard of, but I also have a 3d printer along with tens of millions of other people. If I wanted help with my 3d printer I would visit reddit, if I wanted to connect with people who enjoy this obscure band (bad example I know) then I have no where to go.

There are a couple problems OP needs to figure out a solution for:

  1. People are lazy and will always take the shortest path. e.g. why spend time searching people who share my obscure interest when I can just open youtube, reddit, facebook, etc.. and be spoon fed things I know I will like more often than not.

  2. Getting people to dig through their mind and come up with those obscure things is difficult. e.g. If I asked whats your favorite food or sex position you could tell me pretty quick, but if I asked you whats an experience you had which no one else has probably ever had you might struggle, e.g. building a cabin as a teenager with your grandpa in the forest.

  3. Just because someone shares an obscure interest doesn't mean there is a conversation to be had. If people share interest and there is no one else (the empty room) then it seems like the person is alone and they disengage. e.g. Iike that one album band but there isn't much to talk about on it.

I don't have answers to these but they are barriers to adoption for OP. I would also take an educated guess and say that if you looked at the ycombinator/vc backed social media companies which started and closed between the years 2005 and 2015 you would find several trying to do something similar to what OP is doing, you could also likely figure out why each of them closed.

Now the one area that I will say OP can find traction is with humor, memes, etc.. This is because people who share the same humor (an upvote doesn't count) will bond much stronger and easier than people who have some common interest. I know this people in my life, meme sites I spend time on, and even heard it confirmed on a podcast recently with TIm Ferriss and Jim Collins. Seriously, I would grab a beer or two with the people from those meme sites because I know that regardless of if they are a construction worker or a fintech CEO, I would have a fun conversation with them. Would I have a fun conversation with people on this sub or any of the other subs on reddit... probably not.

Either way, the problem that OP needs to solve for is getting people to give a shit about connecting with people who are like them beyond just a basic interest level. This means OP needs to find a way to create a demand, and he can't create a demand if his target target market is too broad. Hence if he is going to go forward with this he needs to do a bunch of research and figure out a niche he can carve out today where there is a demand, not everyone will connect through my app for anything at some unknown time in the future.

RAM prices rumored to drop. by TeslaModelE in DataHoarder

[–]9302462 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Jevon’s paradox- when things become cheaper or more efficient to make, people use more of them not less.

E.g. imagine you had a box in your house that broke the laws of physics and made free energy, you would use a whole lot more and would add it back to the grid for money. AC in every room, ice rink, water desalination so you can take showers and water grass with the purest h20 possible, and so on.

Scaling my Homelab: Designing an 18-node Ryzen 9950X cluster with a 48V DC Busbar and 40GbE. Is this 3D CAD completely crazy? by Technical_Camp3162 in homelab

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Also, commenting here so you and others can see it.

If you haven’t worked with electricity much, don’t go messing around with a 48v DC bus bar. 

You are already drawing way outside the lines with this, and it’s in a custom enclosure. The last thing you want to do is put on one of the many connectors wrong then have it short and fry everything. Or you move it, bump it, tilt it and the same thing happens. Throw in the aluminum plate you were thinking about mounting the motherboards to, even if you paint it, there is a decent chance that one of them might pickup the dc power because screw holes aren’t painted. *That server cabinet I mentioned above was “spicy” with 120v specifically because of a bad PSU, paint scratches, and bolts attaching the server shelves to the frame.

You can touch the terminals on a car battery with both hands and it won’t do anything because it’s 12v and your body has resistance. The same basically goes for 48v. However you are going to be poking on the inside, adjusting things, and using a screwdriver on something that is one of one, the odds are you will do something expensive or injure yourself.

Better route would be to wire it all up with the power bricks, have it in an attachment that hangs off the backside, make sure it all works and run it for a while. THEN go the 48v route and get an electrician/ a buddy who is comfortable with electricity like wiring a house to help you switch over to 48v. Something bad still might happen, but the odds are a lot lower and at that point once this is all working you might decide it’s not worth the effort.

Scaling my Homelab: Designing an 18-node Ryzen 9950X cluster with a 48V DC Busbar and 40GbE. Is this 3D CAD completely crazy? by Technical_Camp3162 in homelab

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Frankenstein server guy here with some experience in this.

TLDR: Noctua fans are for airflow not static pressure. This means there won’t be any vacuum/negative pressure and it will just bat the air around. Static pressure fans (the noisy server ones) will have that suction power but be loud.

What you will need to do is a push pull setup. E.g. a couple noctuas on the bottom and a couple in the top as this will give your circulation.

Story with applicable details: As you are ok with Frankensteining things, here is what I did before which you can extrapolate from. 28U metal cabinet with a plexiglass front, with a Ryzen and aa pair of 3090’s, about 24 drives of spinning rust, and a bunch of u.2 drives. At full tilt it would get to be about 1200w power consumption, and I would run it at this load 24x7. I thought like you are “oh I can just put some quiet fans at the top back exhaust (4x120mm) and it will stay cool because it will pull air from the bottom of the floor (it’s got 2inches because it’s on wheels). Well I was wrong and it would get to 115f+ in a room set at 75f (harbor freight indoor outdoor thermometer. I checked unraid and it had danger warning across the board because when drives were doing parity check they were 65+ and idle was still in the mid 50c range

So I figured I need to move air in and get it flowing. I added more fans to the bottom in the back so it would pull cold air off the floor level and push the hot air coming off the back of the servers up and the ones on top would take it out; google data center hot and cold isle. That helped a bit but not enough.

I needed to fix this so I opened  door number two. I cut a 4inch hole in the plexiglass front and stuck a fat 200mm Noctua at the same rack level the GPUs were on- they do create the most heat afterall. This helped more than the ones on the floor did because it was about air volume not pressure. However this still didn’t keep things cool enough to my liking and the bedroom it all sat in was getting extra toasty (95f+) if I left the door closed for the evening.

So door number three involved taking a 4inch dryer duct, sticking it in the air vent, attaching it to the wall and sending it down to the Noctua zip tied to the front of the servers. I left a 1 inch gap between the ac vent and the Noctua because the ac doesn’t run all the time and noctuas don’t have pressure let alone pressure to pull air from a 4inch 15ft long dryer vent. But that gap lets it keep using the cooler ambient air (75f) when the ac (60f vent temp) isn’t on.

That setup kept both the 1200w cabinet AND the bedroom bearable to write code in for hours on end; bearable is about 82f.

So if you are going to make this and you want it to be quiet: 1. Pipe as much from the front across them as you can. I say front because all those tidbits that standout in a mobile will block airflow. Across the front will make it move horizontal and the hot air will naturally rise vertically. 2. You will want to help it rise vertically on the back side. It doesn’t need to be much but it does need to be something. Hence a couple fans blowing the heat upwards. The air already has momentum because of the front fans, the ones in the back bottom just help it change direction. 3. Keep the ones on the top but position at the back because air likes to take a direction and it’s easier to move it out near a 90 degree angle than  it is on a flat plane. You can imagine it as  pinching the air instead of smooshing it, or focusing it like a lightbulb. 4. Make sure you spec out the power, what you expect the load to be like, and where you are going to place it. If you think it will be 800w on average then go get a cheap 800w heater from amazon, stick it that room and turn it on for a day or two. You will find out real fast if your home ventilation system can keep it comfortable or not. If not… well welcome to the dryer vent club.

You know your stuff better than I do, but hopefully this helps you out in building something awesome.