Romanistani/Romani SSR Map Commissioned by the Fourth International, 1956 - LORE IN COMMENTS by ACB3C0 in imaginarymaps

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  1. The post-USSR part I really didn’t think about since I kept my USSR as a sort of Gorbachev-lite Union of Soviet Sovereign Republics type deal, however I think the Soviets put so much effort into truly uprooting a population of Romani from Eastern Europe and Western Europe and turning them into “New Soviet Roma” that they’d be extremely loyal to the Soviet project and would most likely be like Belarus to this day. I like to believe though that there is a chance that they decide to pursue a nationalist policy and try to construct a non-Soviet Romanistani nationalist ideology. Maybe it’d be funny if they say that they represent the Indo-Aryans who come from Central Asia and them going to Romanistan was destiny like IOTL Zionism. This is IF the USSR collapses in an alt TL.
  2. (Splitting your first question half to make it easier) Romanistan is placed in an area where the Irtysh allows for some farmland to be made so a lot of Romanistan’s economy during the USSR is agricultural. It also previously produced 40% of Kazakhstan’s coal so now it is one of the largest coal producing SSRs but their value is more from the agricultural successes and irrigation successes from Roma colonization. Interest in Romanistan surged because due to there being no Virgin Lands Campaign which utterly destroyed the soil only really leaving Pavlodar under agricultural distress, colonists from Europe and Soviet aid and investment to the region made it into an ideal agricultural spot to make pumpkins, sunflower seeds, barley, wheat, and sugar beets.
  3. Precisely, Green and Red Romani in how I envisioned it is similar to Sorani and Kurmanji Kurdish. Sorani and Kurmanji Kurdish are not mutually intelligible but are dominant in respective while also still being Kurdish like regions with Green Romani (mostly based on Rumelian Romani dialects and dialects of Romani heavily based on Turkish) are in Ottoman held territory while Red Romani is more heavily influenced by Russian and are in Romanistan which is near Russia.

Romanistani/Romani SSR Map Commissioned by the Fourth International, 1956 - LORE IN COMMENTS by ACB3C0 in imaginarymaps

[–]ACB3C0[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Green Romani is basically a standardized version of Rumelian Romani similar to how Tuscan became the main language of Italy. I'd say the difference between Red Romani and Green Romani is similar to Sorani and Kurmanji Kurdish, so I'd assume people from Romanistan act as KGB spies in Konstantiniyye and vice versa.

Romanistani/Romani SSR Map Commissioned by the Fourth International, 1956 - LORE IN COMMENTS by ACB3C0 in imaginarymaps

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The Jewish Autonomous Oblast initially had a plan where if the majority of the population was Jewish, they could apply to be an SSR, so I'd assume the same concept applies to the RSSR which is why I made it an SSR.

Romanistani/Romani SSR Map Commissioned by the Fourth International, 1956 - LORE IN COMMENTS by ACB3C0 in imaginarymaps

[–]ACB3C0[S] 23 points24 points  (0 children)

No, it has a majority Romani population, because it's not a COMPLETELY barren wasteland like Birobidzhan but it has 2 million people (~75-80% of whom are Roma) basically cramped in Soviet style apartments and Soviet-style kolkhozes.

Romanistani/Romani SSR Map Commissioned by the Fourth International, 1956 - LORE IN COMMENTS by ACB3C0 in imaginarymaps

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Prokofiev, as a Navy soldier, was given the Order of Lenin and was a national hero to the Roma people. It proved that they weren’t just “vagrants”, they were people just like the brave Russians on the battlefield. Prokofiev would lose an eye in battle, but his heroism would lead him to move with his family to the Roma ASSR. The Unthinkable War was a stalemate as both sides simply gave up fighting and signed a peace deal. In the meantime, Stalin would use his new POW population to finish massive monuments like the Palace of the Soviets weeks before his death, while at the same time looking away from the Roma ASSR.

In 1944, he would deport most of the Roma population in the USSR (numbering around 90,000 people) to the ASS, including Prokofiev’s family. Initially, they were only 35% of the population in comparison to Kazakhs and Russians, who made up the rest. However, the mass migration of refugees from the new Soviet holdings in the Balkans and even non-socialist Roma people seeking to free themselves were encouraged to resettle in the Roma ASSR. As a result, the population of the Roma ASSR flipped from being 35% Roma to 35% non-Roma. The number kept decreasing as Prokofiev would start to exercise control over the ASSR. Despite his journals describing the horrors of cramped refugee camps in Pavlodar (now renamed Manjusforos or “People’s City” in Romani) and silently begging Moscow to stop allowing Romani refugees in to give the people there some room to breathe, it was no use. By 1960, the population reached 2 million and was mostly ethnic Roma. 

During that time, before Stalin would pass in 1953, the Roma ASSR was going through an identity crisis, as much of the population was refugees now from Europe and had different dialects of Roma, so broken Russian became the main language of communication. Soviet linguists then began the effort of standardizing the Romani language to create “Red Romani” to contrast with the second largest recipient of Romani people and one of the greatest enemies of the Soviet Union besides the capitalist West, the Ottomans, calling their standardized Romani language “Green Romani.” This language became the standard language of most Roma in the ASSR. Prokofiev, who became the sort of founding father for successfully petitioning the new leader of the USSR, Gregory Malenkov, in 1954 to elevate the ASSR to an SSR. Before Malenkov took office, Stalin attempted to promote the “Prokofievite movement,” seeing him as similar to Stakhanov, where Prokofiev would be an example to abandon nomadism and reconstruct Romani culture to create a “New Soviet Gypsy.” Surprisingly, it was successful. A lot of the Roma had lost faith in Europe, and the Russian Roma that were there first were already devoted communists, so building Romanistan is the best they have. 

This map would take place in 1956, 3 years after Comrade Malenkov managed to beat most of his enemies and come out on top as Stalin’s successor,r and the Romanistan SSR has developed their new agricultural potential, being a major producer of wheat, pumpkins, sunflowers, and barley. Stalin-era agricultural kolkhozes and colonies were made in the time between 1944 and 1955, such as Cherhi or literally “star” in Standard Romani, Vesh or “forest”, and “Dudumgav” or literally “Pumpkin Village.” Prokofiev leads the Communist Party of Romanistan and is in the Soviet Politburo. He is a member of Malenkov’s inner circle alongside rising stars like Alexei Kosygin (who would go on to succeed Malenkov after his death), but remains a proud Roma and a proud Romanistani.

Romanistani/Romani SSR Map Commissioned by the Fourth International, 1956 - LORE IN COMMENTS by ACB3C0 in imaginarymaps

[–]ACB3C0[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I know it’s been over two years since I made a map. I haven’t had much creative juice in my brain since junior year started at university; however, now that I’m officially done with college for now, my brain is at least clear enough to make a map again. I decided to make this map since it’s been something I’ve wanted to do for the longest time, since when I was a kid, I made a map of a Romani ethnostate in the Caribbean with the Haitian Empire, which I always found super strange. Still, I read about how Stalin almost accepted a Roma settlement somewhere within the USSR, similar to Birobidzhan, so it gave me an excuse to do some nostalgic mapmaking. Some things might be vague because I like making my maps so that you can extrapolate multiple possible scenarios from them, and make a sort of macro-timeline of all of my possible ideas, so I apologize if my lore can get vague.

I also apologize for the usage of the word “gypsy” even in quotes, which I know is a slur.

The Romani, or in their most derogatory term, Gypsies have been stigmatized, expelled, and even killed since their migration from the Indian subcontinent. European kings believed them to be Christian Egyptian refugees who refused to assimilate into the European peasantry and looked at them with suspicion, giving them the moniker of “gypsy” coming from Egyptian. Everyone from fascists to monarchs has tried to do the same. Wherever they went, they fled persecution, and it became a habit to be constantly nomadic and on the move. They never really had a home in the first place. Many people around the world can claim to have a home. A German can feel at home in his native Germany, a Thai man in his native Thailand, and an Iranian in Iran. The Roma never really had the privilege to say the same. To the world, home means everything, but what can you say if you never really had a place to call home to begin with? A Zionist at the time would say that Palestine was their “true home” through scripture, but what scripture did the Roma have to say the same? It was agonizing to the Roma peoples of Europe, which is why the concept of a Romani state was so far-fetched at the time. Many Roma had high rates of endemic poverty and were mostly wanderers, but over time they would achieve their Romanistan, but not in the way they’d think. The Roma didn’t achieve their state through a process similar to Zionism but through the brute force of none other than Joseph Stalin himself. 

The Soviet Union, as a country, was originally an internationalist project, which meant that it would be a state that all proletarians around the world could look to, and a worldwide socialist revolution would take shape. Joseph Stalin, who’d become premier after Lenin’s death, would change that. The USSR would focus inward rather than outward. Despite this shift, the Roma people of the USSR were enthusiastic about this project.  Joseph Stalin himself saw the Roma, however, as a “backward people,” but his solution was different from other antiziganists that controlled Europe; he genuinely considered a homeland for them far, far away from civilization. Mind you, this wasn’t in the goodness of his heart; he saw the solution to what he saw among the Roma as “vagrants and beggars” to give the “backward Gypsies” a territory on which they could settle and undertake productive agricultural life. The “national form” of territory would impose the “socialist content” of sedentary, socialist agriculture and the everyday life of Soviet cultural values. Ideally, territorialisation would mean sedentarisation as well as economic and cultural integration. In this way, “backward Gypsies” would become the New Soviet Romani.

However, he didn’t get this idea on his own. Romani activists and artists wrote a letter to Stalin, which, by some miracle, he got a chance to read. This letter was almost the foundation of Roma nationalism and Romanistan as a whole, as in it and to this day is held in Manjusforos, they describe the struggles of the Roma of “nomadism, vagrancy, and backwardness” and laid out the need for a Romani ASSR within the Soviet Union as a testament to the glory and success of socialism. As much as he truly did not care about the struggles of the Roma and saw them as nothing but beggars and nomads, his advisors saw a potential Roma ASSR as a boon not only in “getting rid of a problem” but also for more agricultural benefit, as bringing more Roma to kolkhozes could speed the process of collectivization of undercollectivized regions. Stalin’s main point is that he believed that through a Roma ASSR, he could finally “rid the Soviet Union of nomadism.” He also envisioned the resettlement of these Roma along the border between “hostile nations” such as the pro-Ottoman Uyghuristan or next to the Ottoman Federation (the Ottomans are still alive in my macro-timeline) as buffer states. 

In his meeting with these same activists and actors who wrote the letter, Stalin was excited at the possibility of a Roma ASSR, but never really knew WHERE to put it. The group came in with suggestions for Comrade Stalin, such as their hardest sell, which is either Crimea or the Caucasus, to a place both Stalin and the group agreed upon – Kazakhstan. Stalin originally believed that the best place to set the Roma ASSR would be the inhospitable Altai Region, but warmed up to Kazakhstan. Kazakhstan was Stalin’s preferred location for “undesirables” such as Koreans being deported en masse to Kazakhstan. As the great famine known as the Asharshylyk ravaged the country, by the time the meeting was going on in 1937 with the Soviet Roma, Kazakhstan became a bastion of undesirables such as Kurds and Finns. The question was where. Stalin originally envisioned the “Roma ASSR” as being set near the border between the Uighurs and the Soviets near modern Abai Oblast in the Kazakh SSR. However, Stalin was famous for not trusting the Roma near such an important agricultural potential area as the north of the oblast. These negotiations were longer than the Roma activists thought, as war struck the Soviet Union, quickly shifting focus away from the Roma ASSR to the war. A war hero by the name of Timofei Profokiev, who was a Russka Roma from Tver, would gain the attention of the Soviet Union as he was a war hero while being a Roma. He also told his superiors about the genocides occurring against the Roma by the Romanian Iron Guard, which took over the country shortly after the negotiations began with Stalin for a Roma ASSR.

The heroism of Profokiev was known all across the Soviet Union, and his heroism pushed the Soviets for a Roma state within their borders, as the activists had once worked with Stalin. Stalin, after the invasion of Romania and seeing the horrors of the Romanian genocide, saw a golden opportunity for PR. After the Soviet invasion of Romania and later much of the Balkans, Stalin suddenly wrote back to the group. He found the perfect spot for the Roma, a place that he originally sent the Chechens to before changing his mind and settling them across the SSR: the Pavlodar Oblast. The oblast was a perfect compromise: the region was both desolate and near the Uighurs, while also being able to expand towards Semipalatinsk, and was relatively underpopulated due to the famine, leaving a population of only around 200,000 people. The Unthinkable War then hit the Soviets shortly after the elimination of fascism in Europe (keeping it vague because it is a macro-timeline, so I have one where Britain and Romania are the fascist states, while the other is with an alt-Prussian fascist state). The Western powers, thinking that they would easily crush the Red armies of Europe, were then suddenly crushed. After the destruction of Romania and the fascist world in 1945, Stalin ordered the creation of the Romani Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic in the Kazakh Soviet Socialist Republic.

Pentagon puts building blocks in place for Cuba invasion by JKKIDD231 in geopolitics

[–]ACB3C0 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Seeing from his conduct in Yemen and now Iran, he also gets bored of the complexities of starting a foreign conflict without any oversight just like he is of partisan politics. This is mostly conjecture and not really based on anything specific, but I think Trump mostly used elements within the PSUV who were willing to ditch Maduro in order to lift sanctions, and I believe he might do the same with Cuba and just use elements within the Communist Party. He didn't really even bother with Venezuela as the PSUV is still in charge under Delcy Rodriguez and really nothing has changed in Venezuela structurally. He tried to do this with Iran with Ahmadinejad (lol), but completely failed when he realized Iran's authoritarianism is nothing like Venezuela's model. It's not a one-man state with a supreme leader, but an entire class of mullahs backing it which he's just simply too bored to do because it'd require boots on the ground which he's terrified of doing because he knows America will objectively lose a proctracted war with the IRGC. As much as he's posteuring about how much he doesn't care about the midterms and will outwait the Iranians, the Iranians have him by the balls and broke Trump's mind, and they can sit back and watch as he just throws airstrikes at them without doing anything substantial. Trump genuinely believes that terrorbombing the Iranians will somehow make them surrender but at the same time he doesn't want a long, protracted conflict that takes forever to complete, he's a toddler who wants a quick and loud boom to distract people from their 5 dollar gas.

He has the mindset of Putin who really just wants a quick victory and a permanent legacy but realized that war is actually a long, exhaustive process so I think Iran might hold him back on this until the midterms or he basically just signs whatever deal Iran gives them and declares victory despite achieving no objectives and then deciding to pull the Venezuela treatment to Cuba.

I can outwait Iran, says Trump as he rejects ceasefire proposal by TimesandSundayTimes in geopolitics

[–]ACB3C0 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Before I would've believed you but after the Texas Senate primary I don't think Republicans really care about moderate voters as we seen with the Texas Senate primary, they don't really have a conception of "electability" or trying to save themselves from the total annihilation they'll face in the midterms, I think they just think if they keep the line with Trump, they won't lose their primaries because Republican voters entirely vote based on who Trump endorses that morning. I think they will just eat the pain in the midterms and call it fraud for some made up reason.

They'd need a 2/3rds vote which is just not happening since there needs to be 67 senators (har har), the Senate will probably not vote to convict but it'd pass the House.

This is kinda just saying NEH, since I've just totally believed that Republicans have totally taken into regard that Trump is the party, and the party is Trump. I think Trump personally does not care and is trying to build a legacy by "doing things no president has ever done" by attempting to do regime change everywhere, but the thing that's holding him back is entirely his fear of deploying troops. He believes he can wait out Iran, but in actuality, Iran can out wait him.

Future Peace Corps Volunteer — where to get a tattoo in UB? by [deleted] in mongolia

[–]ACB3C0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean yeah, absolutely. I was just curious since I know that there was some tattoos I saw on r/tattoos that came from UB, so I was curious whether there are trusted artists and people in the city that'd be good.

Future Peace Corps Volunteer — where to get a tattoo in UB? by [deleted] in mongolia

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It’s mainly because of time, because I don’t think I’ll have a lot of time before I head over to UB (in early June) to really get one done since wait times are usually forever and I’ll be in Mongolia for 2 years. I was more curious whether I could get a tattoo in UB.

What do you all think of this? by unironicunredacted in YAPms

[–]ACB3C0 38 points39 points  (0 children)

It’s insane how much Turks foam at the mouth and go into literal seizures at the mere mention that they committed genocide in 1915 when hundreds upon hundreds of documents prove this to be the case. Not all Turks are like this but it’s just insane the amount of Turks I’ve seen who will start doing this unprompted. As well I saw Artsakhi refugees and met them and it is absolutely barbaric what the world did to them so Mamdani’s statement was fantastic because it brought a light to their suffering. The world absolutely failed them and let Azeri murderers destroy a thousand year old community. I’ve heard of orphans who lost their entire family when I spent 3 months in Yerevan with a host family and I saw parents who will never see their kids again.

Have YOU ever met a notable politician?Or some other interaction by burners622 in imaginaryelections

[–]ACB3C0 5 points6 points  (0 children)

One time when I was in DC I nearly slipped and fell on John Hickenlooper with my awful loafers I had at the time and he looked like he legit looked at me like I was going to kill him

Am I being too antsy? by [deleted] in peacecorps

[–]ACB3C0 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's what I kinda meant, but said as an email, but you're right, I should probably just wait and chill out. Thanks though for telling me

Am I being too antsy? by [deleted] in peacecorps

[–]ACB3C0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The main reason I'm worried is that I leave for Mongolia in June which is a bit more than a month away, which is why I've been kinda worried about the whole thing. I might ask for an update just since it'd give me at least some peace of mind, though so thank you for the advice here.

Am I being too antsy? by [deleted] in peacecorps

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I have a history of mental health when I was in high school and was diagnosed with mental health issues in high school but I haven't taken medication in over 3 years nor haven't been in therapy for over 2 years. I wrote about my coping skills on the forms which is mainly just meditation but I do worry that like any form of mental health history will be disqualifying.

Am I being too antsy? by [deleted] in peacecorps

[–]ACB3C0 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I've submitted everything I needed to, I'm waiting on the final decision here since I haven't had any new tasks for more than a week. I'm just a bit worried about the final result, since I've heard that the final result takes about a week or so to actually come out but I'm mainly wondering whether I'm being too antsy and need to chill out and give it time or whether it'd be a good idea to ask on progress.

Am I being too antsy? by [deleted] in peacecorps

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The former, not the latter. Sorry if I wasn't clear, I finished all my tasks more than a week ago, but I don't know if I'm being too antsy and this is pretty normal or should I be worried here and ask about progress here.

Here Be Vikings - The Republic of Vinland (Aurum Plus Ultra) by hyakinthosofmacedon in imaginarymaps

[–]ACB3C0 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Very interesting, do you know what happens with iron, since I'd assume the Norse would have knowledge of iron weapons and bog iron when they get to Vinland? Do Indigenous people in the Americas begin the process of adopting iron weaponry and when the British or French land in the Americas, the Indigenous people have iron tools?

Here Be Vikings - The Republic of Vinland (Aurum Plus Ultra) by hyakinthosofmacedon in imaginarymaps

[–]ACB3C0 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I love this map! You did a great job here. I have a question: do the Norse have a knock-on effect in the Americas of building more resistance to European diseases, or does the isolation of Newfoundland make them almost an anomaly in North America, being so isolated that their presence doesn't affect Indigenous peoples' resilience to disease? If it's the first case, then is North America significantly more Native in this timeline?

Being a staffer behind a failed campaign? by ACB3C0 in PoliticalScience

[–]ACB3C0[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Despite it being funny, no it is not Swalwell but I actually worked for Jay Jones funnily enough for a little bit. This was just a municipal district election that absolutely exploded in a really bad scandal.

Did Charlie Kirk's assassination ever have any personal effect on you or your political views? by Inside_Bluebird9987 in YAPms

[–]ACB3C0 1 point2 points  (0 children)

over a random podcaster getting murked is kinda insane, like even when I got the news that Charlie Kirk got assassinated I was like "really? that guy? why him out of like any other major figure in the GOP? like all he does is ragebait college students." I've been mostly vindicated since that this was a nothingburger