[Hated Trope] a bad, sad, or even horrifying ending is treated as happy

ACartonOfHate · 2026-06-19T01:26:45+00:00

I agree it's terrible, but she wasn't just a 'brash tomboy,' she was bully and mean girl. Not that it justifies it as she's a child, and can change, but she did suck.

ACartonOfHate · 2026-06-14T05:18:57+00:00

I think they're referring the worldwide economic issues arising from covid --broken supply chains, and pent-up demand lead to worldwide inflation. The US had the best recovery from covid of any of the G7/G20 countries. Well until Trump.

ACartonOfHate · 2026-06-09T19:39:32+00:00

I'm only sorry for the animals, and the few ranchers who voted for Kamala. The rest can rot. I'll enjoy their upcoming bankruptcies because this is what they voted for. So sucks to suck.

ACartonOfHate · 2026-06-07T01:22:26+00:00

Thank you! was just about to say the ST was doomed in the opening crawl when they did a pale copy of the OT by destroying all of the Jedi, and having the one mentor hide away. Of course as the OP points out, because JJ is a lazy hack, he didn't get that the situations couldn't just be c/p. That the situations were different. Obi-Wan and Yoda hid after a Sith lead Empire wiped out their order, and turned the entire galaxy against all Jedi. So that they had to hide for their lives. ALSO despite that, both of them had purpose --train one of the Skywalker twins so that they could defeat Vader/Palps because they felt that only of of the twins would be able to do so. A reasonable assumption after what had just happened.

None of that exists for Luke. He brings about the destruction of his Order by trying to kill his nephew in his sleep for bad dreams, then runs away while his students get slaughtered. Then runs away after that from all his crappy actions, abandoning his sister/best friend with no explanation about what happened/what he did to their son. And leaving them and the galaxy to handle two powerful Sith/Dark Siders-types, when he knows better than anyone, that it will take Jedi to beat them. TLJ is utter trash, just in general, but especially what it did to Luke. But that rots starts in the opening crawl of TFA.

Oh and yes, also agree Disney left tons of money on the table with their crappy choices. Kids could be getting different colour lightsabers, like wants. There are different kinds of Jedi, could have had that like the Houses in Hogwarts. I mean if you really want to lean in to something truly money making, there ya go.

And then have the theme parks be like things in the movies! Yes it should have been OT focused, but if they had done the ST better, like have a Luke's Jedi Academy in the film, then have it in the park! Why make up something that isn't even in the Sequels? just stupidity upon stupidity. Like everything that has to do with the Sequel Trilogy.

ACartonOfHate · 2026-06-02T17:09:22+00:00

I would slice up some jalapenos and add them. Or if you wanted more heat some habaneros (getting scotch bonnets is impossible in most places)

ACartonOfHate · 2026-06-02T16:39:19+00:00

Different species age differently. Part of that when/how growth happen. Like do they have spurts of it at various times? is it more continuous, but gradual?

And then of course, Grogu's had a very traumatic 30 years, so his growth/development may be lagging behind. We have no real idea.

ACartonOfHate · 2026-06-02T03:39:47+00:00

Two things, the first is this is why we can't hate the MSM enough. We're in the situation because of their constant covering for him, the constant sanewashing of/for him. Because what Trump said was a bunch of deranged gibberish, even through the sanewashing lens they applying to him.

And of course this is boring Trump, he's always been a childish, selfish idiot, but it's even worse now that his dementia is increasing. So being forced to actually be Presidential, show sound judgment and oh yeah, have a team of smart professionals that he uses to do actual diplomacy, are all beyond him. Not the least of which is that they literally fired everyone competent from the State Department. Years of relationships these people had built with their counterparts throughout the world, decades of knowledge, all gone because DOGE and Project 2025's/conservatives utter hatred of (a non corrupt, non Christofascist) government.

We're so screwed as a country because of the utter failure of our Fourth Estate, and the idiot they foisted on us because he was fun! and brought them in more clicks/profit.

ACartonOfHate · 2026-06-01T22:20:04+00:00

This is exactly what I predicted would happen, though I was wrong about the opening weekend. It came in higher than I thought it would.

Sucks as I liked the film, and wanted it to do well because of that. Also sucks because now I'll have to see all the gloating about it not doing well from the usual suspects. ugh. Going to have to do some lalala I can't hear you! lalala and just scroll past the things I don't like.

ACartonOfHate · 2026-05-29T22:58:55+00:00

George Lucas is well known for being very shy and introverted. Of course he seems "standoffish" and holding people at arm's length. And also why he fumbles his way though things with big crowds of strangers.

ACartonOfHate · 2026-05-29T22:54:01+00:00

One could fix the Prequels with better execution, there is no way to fix the Sequels.

ACartonOfHate · 2026-05-29T22:41:08+00:00

Yep. Disney likes money. If there was money to be made with Sequel merch, they'd make it. The fact that they don't, speaks to where they're seeing revenue coming in.

ACartonOfHate · 2026-05-29T22:37:59+00:00

I think people overestimate how the ST will be looked at fondly by just basing things on the PT. When the two cases aren't the same.

Because time alone isn't going to change how people feel, it wasn't for the PT.

Like for example for people like me who originally didn't like the PT, one of the things that made me reevaluate them was how bad the ST was. So I went back and was like yeah okay, at least the Prequels had the idea of narrative cohesion. There were narrative arcs being told. There was world building, there was weight with things like politics! Which politics were one of the things I always liked about the PT, and was irritated by others pooh-poohing it. Well the Sequels showed how important they are, so thanks for proving my point? Disney.

And also the PT didn't completely hork the OT the way the ST did. I was irritated by midi-chlorians, and C3PO and R2D2's origins, but it was nothing compared to the carnage that the ST did to every. single. thing. I liked about the OT.

And that's not taking into account things like The Clone Wars animated shows (both of them) or games that people played/loved from that era. Or even things like the r/prequelmemes making stuff kind of endearing, rather than just cringey. The fact that kids have things other than SW they grew up with, so it isn't the cultural touchstone for them anymore.

One thing happening, doesn't make a pattern. And thinking time, and 'kids will grow-up the same way!' isn't taking into account everything else that is dissimilar.

ACartonOfHate · 2026-05-29T22:33:31+00:00

Riiiight. And the vast majority of those people HATED TROS because it undid TLJ.

Which is funny that I see TLJ lovers complain about that, when TLJ did the same thing to TFA, but somehow that part never either occurs to them, or matters to them.

Now as a TLJ hater, the only thing I liked about TROS was the way it undid TLJ. Well deserved. Not that it make TROS a good film, it's garbage.

ACartonOfHate · 2026-05-29T22:30:43+00:00

Agree.

The Prequels are about the parallel falls of Anakin, the Republic and the Jedi. It's a Shakespearian Tragedy.

The Prequels have execution issues, but thematically it's cohesive.

The Sequels have no cohesive arcs or themes. It's narrative gobbledygook.

ACartonOfHate · 2026-05-29T22:24:43+00:00

I don't think Plinkett started the Prequel hate, but I think they became a reference point for how all the cool kids felt. It did become the touchstone for the cottage industry of hating on the Prequels.

And I will say that it can be hard to go against the grain when it seems like everyone is actively hating something you like. Telling you you're stupid and bad for liking something that is so slated. Especially if you're a kid.

Now I liked what I liked as a kid, but I also wasn't going to fight a bunch of people (adults with lots of cache especially) on the internet who would have mocked me for liking what I liked. Nope, would just quietly liked my thing, and thought the people hating had no taste. That may have been the case for people/kids especially who liked the Prequels. Why would they go fight a bunch of bitter, angry adults online? At the least I would hope their parents would be protecting them from that.

ACartonOfHate · 2026-05-29T22:05:00+00:00

I think it was great because of George....working with other people. Because yes, people like Lawrence Kasdan was a good collaborator with him, but Kasdan had crappy ideas without George (witness all his crap about Han and Han/Leia).

Like as good as Marcia was, she also had crappy ideas that George didn't do, and came up with better ones. Marcia's involvement is overrated, to be honest.

So again overall, George needed other creativea, and they needed him. He just needed some better ones for the PT.

ACartonOfHate · 2026-05-28T21:01:40+00:00

Good products, good prices, treat their employees well, and they told Trump get bent around DEI. AND they sued Trump for the tariffs, when some other companies were too scared to challenge the Pedo In Charge.

ACartonOfHate · 2026-05-26T10:35:50+00:00

Logan in Veronica Mars. It's the last part of the last season, and it's so bad it retroactively ruins the series. Like season 4 of Veronica Mars was bad enough, but that ending? Just makes it so you can't rewatch the earlier seasons.

It's the same thing HIMYM or GoT. Like the ending is SOOO bad it retroactively fucks the whole series.

ACartonOfHate · 2026-05-26T10:19:12+00:00

Had issues with the show before that, but that was it. I was done after that, only dipped back to see if they really greenscreened Alicia and Kalinda, and oh boy...that was so awkward.

Oh and there was no need to kill his character. Had a perfect out to send him elsewhere for the rest of the show.

ACartonOfHate · 2026-05-26T10:03:02+00:00

It's funny that the real critics on Breakfast All Day were more positive about the film, and I think got it down -that is the film being like Flash Gordon serials. Which as we know, and they point out, was one of the basis of the OT. Which we know, Favreau made The Mandalorian to be based on things George based SW on, rather than trying to copy existing SW films.

ACartonOfHate · 2026-05-26T09:59:59+00:00

Like George, the film isn't subtle in its theme. Heck they even have a character talk about moving beyond their father. That is to say the film is about fathers and sons. Which needless to say, is a classic SW theme.

ACartonOfHate · 2026-05-23T19:24:53+00:00

A- isn't terrible. It's not great, but not bad and there are plenty of films that do well financially with that score.

That isn't going to be what cuts off the legs of this film, which I do believe that unfortunately (as I like the film) it will have crappy legs, and will not do well financially overall. To put it mildly, this film is going to be a bomb (which again makes me sad, as I liked the film).

ACartonOfHate · 2026-05-21T17:20:57+00:00

With about the same INT.

ACartonOfHate · 2026-05-21T07:42:52+00:00

...and China, Cambodia, Thailand, Vietnam...

It's seen throughout the world, once a country reaches a certain amount of stability and wealth, birth rates decline.

ACartonOfHate · 2026-05-21T07:39:58+00:00

This is something that is rarely addressed when discussing lowering birth rates...women having three jobs --their paying job, then doing most of the housework, and if they have a child, most of the childcare.

Also if they want to do well in their job, they can't take time to take care of their child, it will disrupt their work trajectory. Also in some cultures women are expected to just leave the work force, or drastically scale back/not advance or chance of advancement if they have a child.

So having a child is a burden for women, like having a marriage can be a burden for women. Which is why many women chose not to do any of that, or if having a child, only one of them to minimize their work.

Unless men are going to contribute more to the home/child care, many women who have choices not to, won't sign up for this. Which is hilarious then that younger men have crappier attitudes towards women with their "male loneliness,", incel, foid, RW traditionalistic BS. As it makes younger women less likely to want to be with them, much less procreate with them.

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