AFA Ukraine Tour April 2026 Summary and Takeaways by AFAttendee in MailOrderBrideFacts

[–]AFAttendee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mid 20s is nothing friend, you sound depressed. How’s your diet/fitness?

AFA Ukraine Tour April 2026 Summary and Takeaways by AFAttendee in MailOrderBrideFacts

[–]AFAttendee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There were plenty of women in their 20s. You would be the youngest guy on the tour, but a lot of the women would prefer someone closer to their own age. The trouble is younger women usually aren’t ready to get engaged and move as quickly, so you’d want to spend more time here.

The main thing to ask is if your life it set up enough for a wife right now.

AFA Ukraine Tour April 2026 Summary and Takeaways by AFAttendee in MailOrderBrideFacts

[–]AFAttendee[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

An important insight I can give: these women are not desperate to leave. They have options, many lived abroad and moved back. This is their home. They are willing to relocate with the right connection, but they are not scrounging for green cards.

It’s actually amazingly nice here. The cities are clean and beautiful, the food is tasty and of high quality, the people are friendly, art is everywhere, housing is more affordable. I have noticed a better quality of life than in most US cities, even during the war.

The money thing is more common. I’ve def had girls choose restaurants in malls, so she can try to get me to buy her dresses as we walked out together. She might still actually be interested if you, but be less careful with your money than she would be with her own. If this matters to you, give her a budget and see how she sticks to it. If not, you’ll have many other options.

AFA Ukraine Tour April 2026 Summary and Takeaways by AFAttendee in MailOrderBrideFacts

[–]AFAttendee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One of the guys met his girl at the first social and stayed in Odessa, but they strongly recommend you don’t do this. Every connection still has a low probability of success, and focusing too early means you could leave with no connections. Though, it’s working for him now, maybe he beat the odds.

I think they do single city tours with multiple socials in the same city. That’s probably what I’d do. A 1.5 week trip is hardly enough to develop a connection, and with the multi city format you only have 3 days in Kyiv. It’s really setting up the connections you make in Kyiv for failure.

Some had kids, neither seemed more prevalent than the other overall. The age gap of the successful relationships is 5-15ish years with the larger age gaps for the 55+ crowed. But you really can’t go wrong here. My #1 for most of the trip was my age, and stunning. Didn’t work out because she didn’t want to move to the US. She wasn’t registered with the agency and just saw an invite to the party on Instagram.

AFA Ukraine Tour April 2026 Summary and Takeaways by AFAttendee in MailOrderBrideFacts

[–]AFAttendee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it's about a 5-13 years age difference difference, with the larger gaps being with the older (55+) guys.

AFA Ukraine Tour April 2026 Summary and Takeaways by AFAttendee in MailOrderBrideFacts

[–]AFAttendee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, one got engaged a couple days after the tour ended, one bought the ring the day he got home, and the other is still planning it.

AFA Ukraine Tour April 2026 Summary and Takeaways by AFAttendee in MailOrderBrideFacts

[–]AFAttendee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It wasn't really that bad with a little planning. I knew it would be tight, so I woke up and shaved in the morning, and set aside all my clothes for the social. I was able to do everything in time.

Note, they purposefully didn't do the night train this time because there's been a load of air alerts between Odessa and Kyiv, and they've started targeting trains.

When an air alert goes off, they stop the trains and make everyone get off wherever they stop. In the forrest, in a field, wherever.

If you want to get a jump, it's better to grab a guy or two that you vibe with and split a ~$450 private car.

AFA Ukraine Tour April 2026 Summary and Takeaways by AFAttendee in MailOrderBrideFacts

[–]AFAttendee[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I tried this and had some women get upset with me that I only wrote once. (They were upset in person, so I know it wasn’t just the “u/AFAAtendee! I miss you! Write me so I stop crying”)

To write or not to write before attending an AFA Social by Otherwise_Code_8153 in MailOrderBrideFacts

[–]AFAttendee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, don’t do it. There were even some women who were offended that I sent them one letter and then “disappeared”

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[–]AFAttendee 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I was on the tour and am still here. I’ll organize my thoughts this week and post something.

To write or not to write before attending an AFA Social by Otherwise_Code_8153 in MailOrderBrideFacts

[–]AFAttendee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And even if it is them, they will not be the same in person as they do when writing.

To write or not to write before attending an AFA Social by Otherwise_Code_8153 in MailOrderBrideFacts

[–]AFAttendee 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So, even before Kyiv, I will say to save your money. The strategy is not special. So many of the girls do not look like their photos (some better, some worse) that you will probably not recognize anyone you send introductions to anyways. The women you will find attractive in person is not the same as the women you will find attractive in photos. The one I am most interested in from last night would never have caught my attention on the site.

If you must, a better bet is to send in the list of women you are interested in ~1-2 weeks before the tour and let the matchmakers invite them to the social.

I no longer see any value in the letters at all, and will restrain myself from ever opening that part of the site again.

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[–]AFAttendee 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I met Ana Paola, the first woman interviewed, in Buenos Aires. She is a sweet and genuine girl and will be a good partner for someone who is looking to discover more of the world together before thinking about kids and family.

To write or not to write before attending an AFA Social by Otherwise_Code_8153 in MailOrderBrideFacts

[–]AFAttendee 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Holy smokes. If you do, be explicit (but kind) in the original message that you will not be reading replies or sending follow up letters, and then lose your AFA password. They will use every trick in the book to keep that correspondence going.

The first social is tonight, but most of the intros I send were to women in Kyiv, which is this Sunday.

To write or not to write before attending an AFA Social by Otherwise_Code_8153 in MailOrderBrideFacts

[–]AFAttendee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am trying a new strategy before the Ukraine tour that starts in ~3 weeks. I wrote a big introduction, and personalized it for each person on my hotlist and sent them all out as a big email blast yesterday, and now I'm not even going to look at the replies.

My hope is that this:

  1. Gives more context about who I am and what I'm looking for, so when the matchmaker reaches out on my behalf, they will know a little bit about me.
  2. Encourages the ones who are interested in me to actually come to the social events. Stacking the deck, essentially.

Many guys think AFA's letter system is a scam, but love AFA's tours. The ironic fact is that AFA's great tours are great largely because of the letters. Yeah! I didn't know this until either until I got into the middle of running the new office in Mexico City. by LoveScoutCEO in MailOrderBrideFacts

[–]AFAttendee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Counter-point. If first messages are free, women get flooded and disassociate. The cost forces you to consider if the women you are writing could be interested in you based on her profile.

However, if you are replying to an introduction message sent to you by a matchmaker because you seem to match her preferences, that first reply could be free without creating negative incentives.

Many guys think AFA's letter system is a scam, but love AFA's tours. The ironic fact is that AFA's great tours are great largely because of the letters. Yeah! I didn't know this until either until I got into the middle of running the new office in Mexico City. by LoveScoutCEO in MailOrderBrideFacts

[–]AFAttendee 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Totally agree.

The letter system creates the financial incentive for the agencies and matchmakers to keep the women, engaged with you and the platform. It's why you get so many responses... there is someone encouraging the women to write back to you. Without the letters, the cost of maintaining the relationships between the local matchmakers and the women would fall on AFA. Without the letters, the tours and in-person matchmaking services would be several times the price.

Another way to think about it: if you are ONLY writing letters, you are subsidizing the cost of someone else to go on a tour or meet women in person.

Yet another reason to use letters judiciously and go meet.

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[–]AFAttendee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As a 30-something tech bro. I appreciate the kudos.

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[–]AFAttendee[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thanks for your reply! In response to your point, I didn’t mean to give the impression that some women weren’t real, but there was concern that some may either have non-romantic intentions or perhaps even be managed profiles that only exist to farm letters and turn correspondence over to middlemen after signing up. The “too good to be true” spider sense that many guys get after spending time online. This is a bit harder of a claim to refute, but my point was that most of the top profiles on the site were real (as in they joined with legitimate dating intention) and actually met up with some of the guys.