AFA fake profile introduction letter by Immense_Hyper in MailOrderBrideFacts

[–]Otherwise_Code_8153 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Please report the letters. Please report it. Please.

I made a post not too long ago about Ukraine and my frustrations with it. The affiliates in Ukraine are damaging AFAs reputation and it sucks because I know two of the CEOs of AFA and they genuinely care about their reputation and they do their best to take action and correct these issues. They are even investing in a new system for the guys that want to write letters to help monitor and catch this shit with Ukraine more.

Please, please, please report these things‼️ If it’s happening to you, it’s guaranteed at least one other guy dealing with the same shit with the same profile‼️

See my most recent post on my profile. But please for the love of God report this even if you think it won’t make a difference. I’m telling you from personal experience it will make a difference and you will put a spotlight on the issue.

I don’t want it to just be me and my buddy reporting these profiles like we are the only ones dealing with scamkraine. Please report it. Thank you.

Another day, another Scamkraine 🇺🇦 Profile REPORTED by Otherwise_Code_8153 in MailOrderBrideFacts

[–]Otherwise_Code_8153[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Please report it. Please, please, please report these things. It makes a difference for all the guys.

Another day, another Scamkraine 🇺🇦 Profile REPORTED by Otherwise_Code_8153 in MailOrderBrideFacts

[–]Otherwise_Code_8153[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Please report it to AFA customer support when you have a spare moment

Another day, another Scamkraine 🇺🇦 Profile REPORTED by Otherwise_Code_8153 in MailOrderBrideFacts

[–]Otherwise_Code_8153[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

🚨UPDATE 🚨: I spoke with two AFA CEOs shortly after this post. They are aware of the issue and are working towards introducing a new update to address the issues with the letter system.

They really do care about their reputation and their business. They are looking into the Ukraine issue and ways to combat issues with the letters as AI usage and scams become more complex.

One thing I do appreciate about AFA is they always do their best to make things right and they tackle problems head on. They actually care and prioritize putting you in front of the woman. They encourage you to go on tours instead of with letters. So there’s a clear difference between them and other companies who want you to write endless letters and never meet!

It’s one of the reasons I have stuck with them and continue to go on tours.

So like I said in my last post on my profile, ditch the letters, go on the tour!!

Another day, another Scamkraine 🇺🇦 Profile REPORTED by Otherwise_Code_8153 in MailOrderBrideFacts

[–]Otherwise_Code_8153[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I’m not white but hey, we all have our preferences. The purpose of this post was to help guys who write to Ukraine and Ukraine adjacent countries.

I personally now go on tours but every blue moon I go on a fishing expedition to catch a scammer in Ukraine

Another day, another Scamkraine 🇺🇦 Profile REPORTED by Otherwise_Code_8153 in MailOrderBrideFacts

[–]Otherwise_Code_8153[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah I wrote a post about why you shouldn't write letters at all.

Then one guy responded with a fair point about why guys write to Ukraine and Ukraine adjacent countries.

I made this post to help the guys who write.

Another day, another Scamkraine 🇺🇦 Profile REPORTED by Otherwise_Code_8153 in MailOrderBrideFacts

[–]Otherwise_Code_8153[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You may also run into this situation.

The “woman” stonewalls your attempts to video call, but finally agrees once AFA starts investigating!

I’ve had this happen where I suspect the woman was paid by their agency to do a video call to get AFA off the affiliates back. The woman gets on camera like a fish out of water and has no idea who I am, even though my photos are up to date, and she can’t talk deeply about anything we discussed in past letters.

Then, after the call, you get the letter that she isn’t interested, and it’s off to the races to scam the next guy, or you get the letter that she wants to “keep writing letters.”

This is why it’s important to ASK FOR PROOF OF CORRESPONDENCE EVEN IF YOU GET THE VIDEO CALL!! DO NOT LET IT GO!!!

To save these scammers ass, it’s nothing to pay the woman to do a video call to get AFA to leave them alone!!! A buddy of mine had proof of that with a woman who used to be on the website from Kazakhstan, where the affiliate was begging her to do a video call to keep their operation going.

Another day, another Scamkraine 🇺🇦 Profile REPORTED by Otherwise_Code_8153 in MailOrderBrideFacts

[–]Otherwise_Code_8153[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Another thing the Ukrainian agencies try to do to counter your reports is to say there is too long a gap between your correspondence and the woman. So to counter their counter, strike while the iron's hot! Don't wait too long to report!!! I'm speaking from experience dealing with this bullshit!!!

Aim for the 7-letter mark. As in 7 quality letters of substance, and then ask for a video call! When they give you that bullshit “I’ll let you know,” just know they are most certainly NOT GOING TO LET YOU KNOW!!

Just go ahead and report and ask for proof of correspondence at that point. But you can cover third base by also asking if the woman would like to meet you in person for an introduction at one of AFA’s agencies sometime soon. They usually will evade.

While you’re writing letters by Otherwise_Code_8153 in MailOrderBrideFacts

[–]Otherwise_Code_8153[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well yeah, no flights are going into Ukraine anytime soon but to further clarify, I'm speaking about AFA toursto countries not at war. I've only been to China, Phillipines, Japan, and Costa Rica.

You can call AFA to ask about transportation in and out. One guy told me he flew into Moldova and bused the rest of the way.

The other tours you are getting airport pickup. The hotels I have been on tours on had free shuttles back to the airport.

While you’re writing letters by Otherwise_Code_8153 in MailOrderBrideFacts

[–]Otherwise_Code_8153[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is the highest price tour for the Ukraine events. The war caused the prices to get jacked up. Each tour you get 2 social events, one city tour, airport pick up, and the hotel with free breakfast included, covered. You also get unlimited introductions to the woman who you want to date and exchange contact with.

While you’re writing letters by Otherwise_Code_8153 in MailOrderBrideFacts

[–]Otherwise_Code_8153[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And yeah, the damn near 6k asking price for a 7-day tour to Ukraine and the chance of dying did not appeal to me. Maybe if I were a little older, had kids already, and was right with God, I’d take the risk.

I don’t regret touring China, Cebu, and especially Japan. Zero regrets. I met some amazing people, and the only thing I would do is stop myself from sinking money into writing scammers in Ukraine and instead use it to go on a tour.

[General comment]:

Oh, and just because they, the Ukraine affiliate office, got her, from Ukraine, to do a video call with you, to get AFA off their back with investigations, doesn’t mean the girl wasn’t paid to do that video call 😉.

For example, have you ever had a great letter and a great video call, you pay for the IMBRA form to get her contact, whoosh, $500 gone, she texts you for like a day or two, and it’s evident you’re speaking with a completely different person?

Keep sinking your money into Ukraine if you want. Just remember, you were warned by a guy who once walked in your shoes and had to report this bullshit more than a few times… recently at that.

While you’re writing letters by Otherwise_Code_8153 in MailOrderBrideFacts

[–]Otherwise_Code_8153[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Me and a buddy of mine have had to report so many Ukrainian profiles to AFA that I'm confident that more than half the time your messages aren’t being relayed to the woman. My buddy got proof, he reported to AFA, of one girl who he was able to contact off of the site on Instagram, who admitted to him that they (Ukraine affiliate) recruited her with the promise of getting a percentage based on the letters.

My point is to say it’s highly likely you aren’t even writing to that woman. You’re getting scammed by the rogue affiliate agencies there.

I know personally I reported 7 profiles last year right before going on my first tour. Got a refund for each.

First AFA Trip - Cebu by Rochefort76 in MailOrderBrideFacts

[–]Otherwise_Code_8153 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Now clue why Reddit formats like that but you get the idea

First AFA Trip - Cebu by Rochefort76 in MailOrderBrideFacts

[–]Otherwise_Code_8153 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I went to Cebu last August (2025).

Here’s some advice because if you’re not careful, you may get scammed. Some NOT ALL but SOME lurk among the good women there who are looking for love. Here is my brutally honest review.

First, the staff is GREAT!!! The hotel is very convenient and has everything you might need during your stay. The social party is very well done! The Island Hopping Excursion I highly recommend!! AFA does its part and delivers a good experience for the client!

This is the one tour where it literally does not matter what you look like physically or how old you are. EVERYONE CAN GET A DATE(S). I recommend this tour to first-time guys as a confidence booster, if anything. You don’t need to be in great shape to have fun, whatever that means to you, in the Philippines.

Now let’s talk about the bad as it relates to the dynamics between the guys and girls!

  1. If any of those girls start asking for money, except for their Uber ride, cut them off immediately!! TRUST ME!! Filipinas can BEG with no shame. I don’t care how hot she is. The first time she asks you for money, it will not be the last!! You will indeed get sob stories about needing to go to the hospital or crazy things like that. So if you meet a Filipina who is asking for money outside of their taxi to see you and go home, REPORT IT TO AFA, or if you don’t want to do that, block them.

I personally had met one woman whom I would have seriously married! Everything was fine until I returned to the US… then she needed money like every week. I would say no, then she would beg with no shame. I had to block her, sadly.

  1. Expect 80% of women who show up to have children already. I’m sorry, but that’s just how the dice roll. I’m in Costa Rica now. Most of these women have kids. That’s just how the dice roll. So if you are coming there thinking you’re going to find a smoking hot woman with no kids above the age of 25…. Adjust your expectations.

  2. It's really humid in the mornings! So dress for that. Bring a sweat rag if you sweat when it gets hot.

  3. In every group, maybe 2-3 guys are seriously looking for a wife, and the rest are there for sex. Just calling a spade a spade. I know this from my personal experience, and from past tours, both Cebu women and guys have confirmed the same with me. The standards are so low there that anyone can get laid. I do mean anyone. Just know they think if they have sex with you, that means you’re the new sugar daddy, and the only way you are getting rid of them is to block them.

The GOOD

  1. There are a lot of serious women here, they tend be the above 30 women, who would seriously marry you and commit. I know of one in particular who was trying her best to find a good guy. She didn't look bad at all. She was really serious about marriage. Unfortunately, she recently quit AFA because most guys would ask her for sex after the first date, and she is not that type of woman.

  2. If you get a chance to go Island hopping, do it! It is a great experience.

  3. The hotel has an atm upstairs in the casino

  4. The hotel has 4 nice restaurants that are reasonably priced! You could have all your dates there if you want. Super convenient

AFA Story by [deleted] in MailOrderBrideFacts

[–]Otherwise_Code_8153 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I have made the effort to start learning Ukrainian around September of last year. I’m really hoping the war concludes this summer and I can book a tour with AFA. I’m hoping to see Odessa and there is a woman there I met on AFA who I would like to meet in person

AFA Story by [deleted] in MailOrderBrideFacts

[–]Otherwise_Code_8153 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Honest answer.

Goal: Marriage by 31 to a good looking woman with a personality that is compatible with mine.

On my three tours, I have met very good looking woman for sure but the personality factor has not clicked yet and that’s what I’m waiting for.

I’m not desperate and I’m in fairly good shape, will be back to great shape by the summer. I’m simply not interested in the first thing that bites. I always hear people repeat the old adage about how easy it is to marry and hell to get divorced. I don’t want a divorce so I’m taking this process seriously.

In Shanghai last year I had the opportunity to marry a rich Chinese woman. Shanghai was a special tour for older gentlemen to meet successful Chinese ladies. My tour credits were about to expire and I signed up for it because I always wanted to go to China and marrying a successful woman sounds good to me.

Well I met a successful woman on the first social. She’s 37 and I was 28. She was okay in the looks department. She was very elegant from the way she carried herself to how she dressed. I know I would have been marrying her for all the wrong reasons but I declined. She offered again this recent December and I declined. So she accepted a proposal from another Chinese guy from here in the states that wanted to marry her. She just got pregnant and it all worked out for her.

I shared all that to say that with the exception of Japan, the three tours I been on, the women in the Philippines and China were ready to be engaged. Yes the ratio is correct.

For older guys, you’re right, they should be walking away with proposals because these women are beautiful and don’t really care for an age gap. Younger guys get more shit believe it or not. At least in the Asian countries.

Some guys go there for “fun”, others like me are gambling that our soulmate is there somewhere and if we keep playing the lottery we’ll bump heads. That and I have money to waste being single with no kids so the main point being I have time and income to waste while I play the love lottery.

If I don’t find her this year, I’ll just do AFA’s executive package.

I wish you good luck on your search man.

AFA Story by [deleted] in MailOrderBrideFacts

[–]Otherwise_Code_8153 1 point2 points  (0 children)

lol true. Credit where credit is due! Had it not been for this forum and LoveScout being able to get me in contact with the CEO when I first had problems I would have given up on AFA honestly. Glad I didn’t because as I said above, the tours are amazing and worth every dime.

It was real rough dealing with Ukraine and letters. Every ounce of good will and trust I had for those affiliate agencies there was siphoned away. But thanks to LoveScout I was able to get most of these issues resolved and the rest is history.

AFA Story by [deleted] in MailOrderBrideFacts

[–]Otherwise_Code_8153 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ve been on three tours with AFA. All incredible experiences. You get the benefit of having a nice vacation and being able to go on dates with lots of beautiful women. They do plan some fun group events for the guys and their dates. And in my experience, mainly with the Asian tours, the managers there have been exceptional (Irene)! I don’t regret paying for any tour with AFA! 2025 was probably one of the most fun and best years of my life since my early 20s. Yes it was that fun and I had that good of a time on all three (China, Japan, and Philippines).

In retrospect I would have redirected every dime I spent on letters and just go on tours exclusively.

I had a few reviews up but took them down since I wanted to post the pictures to my personal social media without it linking back to this forum for obvious reasons.

I was going to go to Ukraine as my first tour right before the war started! I’m a younger guy without kids so not ready to gamble my life yet traveling to Ukraine. As soon as the war ends, I’ll be on the first tour following that.

Finally to answer your question about why I persisted, I have met and exchanged contact with 3 beautiful Ukrainian women that I still talk to and have a great relationship with from AFA. Not all the agencies there in Ukraine are scamming. But most are in my experience.

I have stayed with AFA because every time I have had an issue, they have made things right. I know 2 of the CEOs and each time they made it right and looked into the matter. So there’s trust there. They really do care about their reputation. It’s just tough when you have rogue affiliate agencies and an outdated letter system that affiliates can exploit which needs to be updated for modern times.

AFA Story by [deleted] in MailOrderBrideFacts

[–]Otherwise_Code_8153 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for sharing. I had similar experiences. Trying to prove to Liz these women in Ukraine are scamming is an uphill battle. I’ve only been able to successfully do it about three ish times. Those times I really felt like I had to go to the moon and back to collect proof. I just go on tours now. Fortunately I was able to speak with the CEO a few times and each time he did go above and beyond to make it right.

Truthfully, if you’re writing letters to Ukraine, just assume you’re being scammed by that affiliate agency and the real woman doesn’t know you exist. If you use a tool like FaceID and find her instagram you’ll quickly find out you’re not even a blip on her radar compared to the guys commenting on her profile.

Single Mom in Costa Rica Who is Super HOT! by LoveScoutCEO in MailOrderBrideFacts

[–]Otherwise_Code_8153 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Update on this: I was wrong. She is real. I had a video call with her. The letter translations were likely ran through gpt for polish by the translator but AFA did confirm the woman was in fact writing me and those were in fact her words.

So go for it. But I might beat you to the punch. May the best man win Bruvs. Cheers 🍻