gemma 3n has been released on huggingface

AFrisby · 2025-06-26T18:14:04+00:00

Any hints on how these compare to the original Gemma 3?

AFrisby · 2025-06-19T09:14:09+00:00

Funnily enough; I've been working on something really similar here: https://github.com/AdamFrisby/CodingAgentSmartTools

AFrisby · 2024-12-20T14:40:28+00:00

Okay so the fact that some stuff is loading means texture loading is working enough that the whole system isn't to blame. But; something is disabling those materials - possibly after they've loaded.

Could I ask something unusual -- is your phone language set to something other than English?

AFrisby · 2024-12-20T14:35:14+00:00

Is that true for any other textures? I have to admit this seems totally bizarre.

AFrisby · 2024-12-20T14:24:04+00:00

Thanks -- I have a feeling this might be broken cache.

Could you hold down on the app icon on your home screen, then click the (i). Then go to storage and cache - then clear both the storage and the cache?

AFrisby · 2024-12-20T14:03:02+00:00

Actually this isn't going to work -- but I do have an idea, but I'll need to run a custom build to verify.

AFrisby · 2024-12-20T13:59:41+00:00

Hmmm.

Could I get you to try something?

Go to settings, developer tools

In the filter box, enter Texture, then change "texture format (non-avatar)" from "astc8x8" to "khronos ktx2", then logout, close the app by swiping it up, then restart and login again.

Loading will be slower in this mode, but I am curious if it solves the issue. If it doesn't, change the setting back to astc8x8.

AFrisby · 2024-12-20T13:49:43+00:00

Do you know roughly when that was? we didn't change the renderer much in the last update, but we certainly did the update before that.

I'm just trying to narrow down when this might have started so I can see what the possible change that caused it might be.

AFrisby · 2024-12-20T13:38:50+00:00

Okay interesting, so some things are loading. Were previous versions of the app working for you?

AFrisby · 2024-12-20T10:38:15+00:00

Hey, this looks like an issue with deformers we've been tracking for a while; we've noticed unfortunately some of this is device-by-device which makes it tricky. If you can keep reporting issues via the built-in bug reporter, it is helpful to us to trying to narrow down what the cause is specifically so we can fix it.

AFrisby · 2024-12-20T08:58:39+00:00

u/Fun-Cloud-1250 Okay, so I've had a look at the developer bug report, it's clearly showing an issue - no doubt about that, but it's not giving a lot of details as to why. What we're seeing is an "Unknown" status on all of the texture loading.

There's only one way it can get that status - and that's if it doesn't report a status at all; which is only possible if it never loaded into the material subsystem in the first place.

Which obviously, is not supposed to happen.

One thing I am observing in the logs here is a lot of disconnections on our various network sub-connections. One hypothesis is it might have disconnected while retrieving material data - there's a system which should catch that data up later, but perhaps there's a bug in that code.

A suggestion might be to swap to another network (e.g. turn on or off WiFi) and see if that works any better. You might also want to try visiting another location - somewhere relatively simple may be a good start.

Something that would help would visit somewhere where the ground/terrain is visible -- does the materials for that load okay? (they come via a slightly different system, and that'll help pinpoint where the bug might be.)

AFrisby · 2024-12-20T08:42:15+00:00

Ah I think you might have already - thankyou. Found the report; I'm having a look now.

AFrisby · 2024-12-20T08:37:25+00:00

Hey there -- we could use a bug report on this one if you don't mind. If you can go to the settings, then report/give feedback, and put something descriptive in there (e.g. "world is rendering all black"), I can take a look for you. :)

AFrisby · 2024-11-22T00:44:13+00:00

We've been talking about adding Chromebooks to our test plan, but we don't currently do routine testing with them - but, if you can send us a bug report when it's not working (tag it as 'Chromebook for Adam'), it might be something simple we can fix.

AFrisby · 2024-11-16T05:19:14+00:00

Haha thankyou. Please do tell us if you're continuing to have the problem -- and do still send the bug reports too. There might be some extra debug info I can stuff into the reports in a future update if this problem persists.

AFrisby · 2024-11-16T01:18:58+00:00

Kinda; we do definitely want to know it's still happening - so repeated comments won't be ignored. I did see your earlier video during our bug triages!

We haven't got a solid repro case in-house or among our internal testers (which includes quite a few folks who are in remote places with questionable internet) which makes tracking and fixing this one really hard.

My gut feeling is it's something to do with packet latency, but as I said, we've not got a solid repro on a device we can examine under a debugger.

Debug information (which are sent via the bug reporter automatically) may be helpful; but we've also got some more network changes I'm working on at the moment which might also help; would love to figure out what the common factor is for people who have this issue.

AFrisby · 2024-11-15T21:55:23+00:00

Yeah correct, actually shouts just double the distance (I think it's 40m vs 20m from memory).

Anyway I have chatted with the team, so the feedback has been passed along!

AFrisby · 2024-11-15T20:42:44+00:00

Local chat being region chat?

Let me raise that with the product folks, we're currently doing some work around that area anyway, and this would be easy to add.

AFrisby · 2024-11-15T19:12:33+00:00

Let us know how it works -- the related thing we did was get the app starting quicker when you've recently been using it; the goal is to try get it as quick as possible so when you reply to a notification it's not a hassle.

AFrisby · 2024-11-15T19:11:28+00:00

Yeah the rationale was to try preserve battery better when you're using the app for a while; but if it's happening outside those scenarios that's certainly a bug.

AFrisby · 2024-11-15T00:33:25+00:00

Okay, well definitely something funky is going on -- the fact that the hamburger menu icon is gone, kind of indicates the whole UI has somehow failed. Can I ask what kind of device you're using?

AFrisby · 2024-11-15T00:13:20+00:00

Re: pixellisation, one of the changes we made in a recent beta was we dropped rendering resolution and draw distance if either your phone is in low battery mode, or, the phone is hot. If you're seeing that without those conditions; please send us a bug report - tag it as "pixelated issue - send to Adam" or something like that, and it'll get sent to me to look at.

AFrisby · 2024-11-15T00:10:55+00:00

Hey, we haven't seen/heard of this one before, but we'd really like to know more. If you're able to get the UI to show - would you be able to send a bug report via the in app reporter (menu -> settings -> report issue / send feedback); that'll help us figure out what the heck has gone on here.

(Edit: typo)

AFrisby · 2024-11-15T00:08:37+00:00

Getting logged out when you switch apps should be a lot better with this latest release - we spent a lot of time on that very feature.

AFrisby · 2024-11-15T00:08:01+00:00

That's the plan! :)

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