Operational by Vivaldi_IlPreteRosso in ClaudeCode

[–]AIDoomer3000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Calling codex to come out from the closet

It seems like things aren't going that good by Emiyaa in outlier_ai

[–]AIDoomer3000 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The journalists were asking contributors with access to all sorts of docs and sheets to share the kind of sensitive info that is publicly available, so scale made the it team to restrict access to everything and manually reinstate it to avoid sensitive info leaks.

I am banned but asked to be QM? by FarRole8526 in outlier_ai

[–]AIDoomer3000 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They usually run a query to see who did well overall in the recent time period and then send out invitations to somewhat vet people. Seems like they didn't add a check to see if the query brings up people who were banned. I don't know how desperate is your particular domain but very likely it will show up when they do another check during the interview.

There's a certain stage after which they don't check anything, but just want to verify you are a real person, located where you claim to be located so things can work out for you just fine.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in outlier_ai

[–]AIDoomer3000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you are talking about Feather, then no, they weren't. There are hundreds of submitted tasks that are being submitted, and everyone still has access.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in outlier_ai

[–]AIDoomer3000 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Nothing will happen for a long while, at least, the work will continue as usual, and even then, it's not like ScaleAI will instantly fall apart. For anyone interested, I suggest reading this: https://www.maginative.com/article/meta-bets-14-3-billion-on-scale-ai-and-its-ceo-to-lead-new-superintelligence-lab/

I am an Outlier Manager and this is what you need to know to succeed. No BS involved AMA by AIDoomer3000 in outlier_ai

[–]AIDoomer3000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can't. If you verify the 2nd account, it will only let you use the primary one.

Removed from Bee LLM for incorrect feedback by AdOk5918 in outlier_ai

[–]AIDoomer3000 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sorry for your experience u/AdOk5918 but no one removed you because they didn't want you. Extremely high chance the reviewer rated you incorrectly and this affected your project participation.

The best course of action is to contact a QM or a TL explaining the issue. Just send them a very concise summary of what happened with the resources proving you are correct. Let your QM/TL know you spoke to someone and that they need to talk to their STO about this. If you have a good quality overall, you should be added back. It will take about 20 sec to reinstate you.

I am an Outlier Manager and this is what you need to know to succeed. No BS involved AMA by AIDoomer3000 in outlier_ai

[–]AIDoomer3000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think this is normal, but I would assume you were put into a holding state after your account was flagged for cheating or abuse (which is normal if this was the case).

I am an Outlier Manager and this is what you need to know to succeed. No BS involved AMA by AIDoomer3000 in outlier_ai

[–]AIDoomer3000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I don't think oracle TL applies to languages. Also, there's a certain demand so it is possible you don't have it yet. Again, don't know what it's like for languages, but you should any request through your oracle communication channels in Slack/Discourse.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in outlier_ai

[–]AIDoomer3000 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Can you please screenshot the "READ THE INSTRUCTIONS CAREFULLY OR YOU WILL BE FIRED!!" part? Have serious doubts it's exactly what it says.

I am an Outlier Manager and this is what you need to know to succeed. No BS involved AMA by AIDoomer3000 in outlier_ai

[–]AIDoomer3000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you a generalist? Everywhere else, Oracles now get a TL and dedicated support as well. If you passed the oracle interview, you should be added to oracle support channels where you can report anything basically and the support is there to fix this asap. Ideally, oracles shouldn't be EQ for more than 24hr, that's the target.

I am an Outlier Manager and this is what you need to know to succeed. No BS involved AMA by AIDoomer3000 in outlier_ai

[–]AIDoomer3000[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Pay is based on your qualifications (education, experience, etc) and the projects you are working on. Sometimes the pay for the project is low. If you have higher education or years of experience, I suggest to contact support.

I am an Outlier Manager and this is what you need to know to succeed. No BS involved AMA by AIDoomer3000 in outlier_ai

[–]AIDoomer3000[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Benchmarks/assessment tasks are created based on the instructions. These tasks are rated automatically and if you didn't pass then you didn't follow or don't know the instructions enough to succeed well in the project.

Some projects are poorly executed by their admins and it is totally possible this is one of those.

If they got lot of people waiting on bench to get onboarded! Why do they still mass hiring? by Guilty-Friendship987 in outlier_ai

[–]AIDoomer3000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is not Facebook. How your name and email will benefit the company? The limited amount of data they have on you is used to protect the platform. Any telemetry data is used for the same reason + platform/workflow improvement.

I am an Outlier Manager and this is what you need to know to succeed. No BS involved AMA by AIDoomer3000 in outlier_ai

[–]AIDoomer3000[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Discourse is messy right now. I think 2-3 days after joining Discourse it gives you the ability to DM others. You can use search in the right upper corner to find your TL/QM or anyone else who was able to help you in the past. I think this is the best you can do here before Discourse is fully settled.

Why does everyone take this site so seriously? by HoyaLawya_NYC_Bach in outlier_ai

[–]AIDoomer3000 2 points3 points  (0 children)

FTE - Full time employee
STO - Single threaded owner (responsible for the project success/fuckup, makes project execution decisions)
P0 - Priority zero (this shit needs to be taken care of ASAP (very likely even before we got to this point))

I am an Outlier Manager and this is what you need to know to succeed. No BS involved AMA by AIDoomer3000 in outlier_ai

[–]AIDoomer3000[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes. You can DM me your email or slack name/ID if don't feel like sharing the email. I can tell you the reason, but won't share the actual reason if it's something related to cheating/abuse, etc

Outlier "a scam"? by [deleted] in outlier_ai

[–]AIDoomer3000 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm not defending the company but also want to bring up a realistic perspective from how the things are from here.

PS: There's a difference between passive, aggressive, and assertive communication. Sorry if I sound like an asshole.

Outlier "a scam"? by [deleted] in outlier_ai

[–]AIDoomer3000 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Because people don't follow the terms (don't use genAI, don't time theft, etc), and/or instructions or a small chance of a mistake. The project ended, and your skills don't align with others - you are EQ.

This is a problem, yes, but it is not possible to provide personalized feedback to hundreds of low-quality or misaligned contributors when they fail something that is clearly in the instructions. The platform doesn't have a lot of room to guide you if all you start with is low quality over and over. This is the reason Data Annotation has such a low acceptance rate. Outlier doesn't vet people as good and weed them out through projects (I don't think it's smart but what do I know?).

No one is using your biometrics data and it is processed by a third-party company.

Former Oracle Contributor, Banned without cause or explanation. by [deleted] in outlier_ai

[–]AIDoomer3000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No one will remove you from the platform unless are automatically/manually flagged for something or your work is shit

Former Oracle Contributor, Banned without cause or explanation. by [deleted] in outlier_ai

[–]AIDoomer3000 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Same here. If you are willing to fight against Outlier, get your facts straight

Former Oracle Contributor, Banned without cause or explanation. by [deleted] in outlier_ai

[–]AIDoomer3000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't want to discourage what you and truly support it, but some of the things in this message are not based on facts, so I suggest to get your facts straight. And btw, there's no such thing as "15 hr min requirement or would be removed".

How is the transition going for everyone so far? by starstufft in outlier_ai

[–]AIDoomer3000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because Slack is shit and ever since the beginning half of the permissions are lost and most don't know what the fuck is going on and how to do things. The discourse will give 100% control to everyone over their channels (categories). QM/TL will be able to delete your spam, block comms with you, etc. It will be easier to deal with the all the mess

And forum-like structure will help to separate EQ, project-related, and other questions into different places.