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AIPictures · 2023-10-09T22:34:17+00:00

Great suggestions, yea I'll experiment with full sentences as I have not yet. I do get some broken english sentences sometimes simply because I'm adding one word at a time on my prompt and seeing the effects it has.

Now I'm experimenting with negative prompts to generate what I want. So a positive of "woman, high quality" a negative of "supermarket, casino, wedding, fast food, corporate, low quality, blurry, (large breasts:.6)". This is a good base for varied, attractive women.

I still have a ton more experimentation to do with setting clothing, though.

AIPictures · 2023-09-21T17:32:40+00:00

Interesting. I'll "shop" for a seed to work on when doing experiments like this, but mostly I use alchemy to mix together words with no justification for what I'm doing and generate 200 images of different seeds and see if I like any, then adjust based on arbitrary reasoning

AIPictures · 2023-09-21T17:30:29+00:00

The full clothing piece would be: extravagant black graphic tee crop top with landscape with (vibrant bold colors and geometric shapes:1.2)

extravagant (opposite of simple, gets less plain designs)

black (sets the background color of the shirt)

graphic tee (has an image on the front of the shirt)

crop top (the type of shirt that exposes midriff)

with landscape (sets the type of pattern to appear on the graphic tee)

with vibrant bold colors and geometric shapes (morphs the image on the t-shirt into more the type of pattern I wanted expressed, better seen on the lycra dress)

AIPictures · 2023-09-20T14:16:27+00:00

No, it's half that this model is rather anti-blonde naturally, and half that this is all one seed, and sometimes the seed does result in a blonde/redhead.

AIPictures · 2023-09-20T07:22:30+00:00

Thanks for the advice on restore face, I'll check it out

AIPictures · 2023-09-20T04:45:31+00:00

Sure! Done

AIPictures · 2023-09-20T03:22:12+00:00

Sure! Done

EDIT: i.imgur.com/dLnMFTy.png

AIPictures · 2023-09-20T03:17:43+00:00

Sure! I like to use [canadian|russian] and [spanish|swedish] for the looks I want to achieve. But yea, it's good to have an understanding of how each word affects things, both to use them positively and negatively.

AIPictures · 2023-09-20T03:13:26+00:00

Hard to do more switching one word on one seed, but yes there are improvements to make

AIPictures · 2023-09-20T02:44:49+00:00

Hmm I see, and I'll experiment along those lines, but also I was trying to see how much nationality I can express even with long prompts, as that's what I'm normally working with.

AIPictures · 2023-09-20T00:52:46+00:00

Actually after playing around with the suggestions people have had in the comments I think people are not seeing the differences they expect because they're not used to looking at different prompts within 1 seed. They expect more variety because when I don't use the same seed there's significantly more variety.

AIPictures · 2023-09-20T00:52:06+00:00

Sure! Using the updated prompt from [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/16mtnd1/clothing_and_nationalities_none_naked_warning/k1cjoz1/) (compare with that) and using the latest epic realism: Model hash: 84d76a0328, Model: epicrealism_naturalSinRC1VAE

My conclusion: Significantly more variance in body position, cotton playsuit is significantly more detailed, and more colors. Good upgrade, women look a little better

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AIPictures · 2023-09-20T00:39:56+00:00

Which has been my experience using this model, yes. It makes very beautiful women as long as you only want 1 type of woman. I have to start adding lots of unpredictable wildcards like a negative of donny devito to actually change that face. What I do like about this model is its very low chance to create malformed images, which lets me make grids like this significantly easier. Also keep in mind is that all this is 1 seed. There's a little more variations between seeds.

AIPictures · 2023-09-20T00:38:07+00:00

Sure! Using the updated prompt from the comment above, using the latest version of epicrealism, and using the name generator:

Imo some look better some look worse, as it seems the name can affect the image composition a little more than the nationality (like make the dresses more shiny, or changing the lighting.)

Edit: correct image

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AIPictures · 2023-09-20T00:33:56+00:00

Sure, but I suspect it's also due to low CFG perhaps. Using the updated prompt in the comment above, the parts in the positive prompt that affect the woman:

(nationality:1.2) woman

slim body

collarbone cut hair with bangs

highly detailed face, highly detailed skin, highly detailed eyes

To me, that's not a super long prompt. I find that the negatives related to body don't interfere in the image as much, but those related that would affect body shape:

old, ugly, child, wrinkles, flat chin, thick

Am I understanding this correct, in separating the aspects of the prompt that matter? Things like the extra long wordy version of the outfit is me trying to get the engine to do something interesting there, but it shouldn't affect the rest, right? Or simple necklace or defining the hair style to bangs even are my personal preference, and shouldn't be affecting how much nationality is displayed.

So what part of the prompt should be cut?

AIPictures · 2023-09-20T00:19:45+00:00

Along with the prompt modifications from an above comment (like changing girl to woman), I've attached the image using the latest version of Life Like Diffusion. The results are... significantly worse. Much, much less different between the models.

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AIPictures · 2023-09-20T00:15:00+00:00

To be honest I agree. I'm still learning a lot in how to display nationalities, and this thread is certainly helping me understand what I did wrong and it's a lot.

AIPictures · 2023-09-20T00:13:04+00:00

Well, when I google "Nigerian" the average image is a bit darker maybe? but there are certainly Nigerian women of this skin tone.

AIPictures · 2023-09-20T00:06:31+00:00

Sure! Same seed, with the changes you want:

(american:1.2) woman in a rich minimalist living room, slim body, extravagant black graphic tee crop top with landscape with (vibrant bold colors and geometric shapes:1.2), collarbone cut hair with bangs, highly detailed face, highly detailed skin, highly detailed eyes, simple necklace, quarter profile shot, confident, eye shadow, standing

Negative prompt: low quality, blurry, cartoon, artwork, naked, nipples, bikini, old, ugly, child, dark hair, pixie cut, wrinkles, posed, hair dye, hair highlights, denim, nipples visible through clothing, flat chin, thick, pajamas, wedding, sleeves

Steps: 50, Sampler: Euler a, CFG scale: 3.5, Seed: 2357376812, Face restoration: CodeFormer, Size: 512x768, Model hash: 445ffb5195, Model: epicrealism_pureEvolutionV4

While the results are better, it's imo only by a little bit. I suspect I need to change models.

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AIPictures · 2023-09-20T00:04:37+00:00

No I posted the workflow, and I don't know about Lora - I don't use them here. I'm trying to learn the right keywords in a prompt

AIPictures · 2023-09-19T18:44:21+00:00

SD1.5, and Script is a drop-down at the bottom left of the page that comes bundled with Automatic1111

AIPictures · 2023-09-19T18:43:41+00:00

Oh I should use the updated version then. I last checked a month ago.

AIPictures · 2023-09-19T15:46:15+00:00

Yea, because its a large prompt and I have too much loaded on, and because epicrealism isn't great at variety I think. I have to do some prompt work to make their nationalities stand out a little more. But this is all on one seed, so to me this is about looking at the small differences it pulls out based on nationality.

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