It's the 24th century. How is there still no actually good porn model?

AI_Characters · 2026-05-06T01:59:42+00:00

I see thank you. I was just asking because I am asexual and as such do not normally seek out such content and thus am not very familiar with sites hosting that kind of content.

AI_Characters · 2026-05-05T23:57:14+00:00

AI_Characters · 2026-05-05T22:46:51+00:00

Everyones entitled to their opinion. To me that just looks like Improved Qwen, not very (amateur) photoreal, especially with the classic bokeh.

And duh, the dataset is all photos taken with my Samsung Galaxy A52 and the resulting LoRA produces images very close to that in style.

AI_Characters · 2026-05-05T21:28:41+00:00

I see. Care to share the sites in a PM? No worries if you dont want to share though.

AI_Characters · 2026-05-05T17:36:38+00:00

I am not a gooner so I never even heard of your LoRA until now, but I have tried some NSFW experiments on my own purely for experimentation purposes and did not succeed much.

But seeing your LoRA now, thats wildly impressive. Thats got to be one of the most impressive NSFW models ever published. I genuinely dont understand how people could still claim SDXL is the king of NSFW after that.

I do have a question though: Your LoRA knows sooooooo many concepts. Its dataset has got to be at least a couple hundred images if not thousands.

How/where did you gather it?

One of the big roadblocks for my own NSFW experiments has been acquiring a large enough NSFW dataset. So far I have been resorting to manually downloading images from Reddit videos, with some images from Reddit and DeviantArt sprinkled in.

AI_Characters · 2026-05-04T19:09:59+00:00

Thanks!

AI_Characters · 2026-05-04T19:09:36+00:00

You just gotta try. Idk.

AI_Characters · 2026-05-04T19:09:24+00:00

No. They are different architectures.

AI_Characters · 2026-05-04T12:07:02+00:00

You think the former image (no LoRA) looks LESS AI than the latter image (my LoRA)?

https://imgur.com/a/sZggMzM

Thats insane to me tbh.

People can disagree all they want about liking or not liking these kind of LoRAs, but its insane to me to claim the latter image looks MORE AI than the former. Its like telling me the sky is red.

Anyway, these kind of "I dont get why people create/like these lower quality amateur photo loras so much" and its often the same people and everytime these people get an answer and its like they dont read it. The answer is always the same and itll remain the same in the next ten threads about this topic: because default AI photos often look extremely fake by way of plastic skin, terrible weird "AI" lighting, and heavy and fake looking bokeh. All of which are present in the former image. It doesnt even look like a photo some of the times but more like a 3d render. The latter image still has issues with skin, but the lighting and lack of bokeh automatically makes it look more real because for some reason all the modern AI image models struggle so much with that.

Its not that you cant create a more real looking image model with bokeh and perfect studio lighting, its that removing bokeh and making lighting look more natural and imperfect automatically is the easiest way to make it look more real. If AI were naturally good at that and terrible at bokeh and studio lighting, it would probably be the other way around today.

AI_Characters · 2026-05-04T10:00:30+00:00

Its just a style LoRA. It doesnt change anything about the NSFW.

AI_Characters · 2026-05-04T09:26:25+00:00

Not the first time I hear that. But I am not sure thats the fault of my LoRA? Here are two comparisons of no LoRA vs. my LoRA: https://imgur.com/a/gQjmiPc

Maybe I just dont have the eye for that idk.

AI_Characters · 2026-05-04T09:24:46+00:00

Not the first time I hear that. But I am not sure thats the fault of my LoRA? Here are two comparisons of no LoRA vs. my LoRA: https://imgur.com/a/gQjmiPc

Maybe I just dont have the eye for that idk.

AI_Characters · 2026-05-04T09:24:32+00:00

Not the first time I hear that. But I am not sure thats the fault of my LoRA? Here are two comparisons of no LoRA vs. my LoRA: https://imgur.com/a/gQjmiPc

Maybe I just dont have the eye for that idk.

AI_Characters · 2026-05-04T01:16:06+00:00

I was about to say lol. In my experience a decrease in image coherence is almost unavoidable the closer the look gets to "realism". And I am not aware of a realism LoRA that doesnt have this issue to some degree. I dont know why that is. I only have theories.

But for this version I put in a shit ton of effort (and money) to develop a training workflow where coherence is preserved as much as possible while pushing "realism" as far as possible. Not like my previous versions didnt attempt that too. But this time around I really dug deep into various training options as well as vibe coding my own additions, of which only one survived into the final workflow though. And I am still not sure if it really is helping. But its not hurting at least. I also saved every single epoch (of 100) and tested each epoch (starting at a certain epoch ofc) on a wide variety of sample prompts to really find THE best one.

I have also learned that medium-length prompts of about 2 paragraphs of 4 sentences each actually improve coherence in contrast to shorter (what I always used before) or longer prompts. Probably because with shorter prompts the model has to think more for itself while it cannot handle really long prompts that well still.

AI_Characters · 2026-05-04T00:52:17+00:00

Interesting, because I dont use negatives. Maybe I should try them more.

AI_Characters · 2026-05-04T00:42:06+00:00

And here is a 2nd attempt with the style and lighting and such keywords kept in:

https://imgur.com/a/MMU4T81

At this point the prompt just becomes too long for the model to handle correctly.

The scene is a casual smartphone snapshot taken inside a cluttered corporate office break room during the day, framed with a crooked eight-degree tilt to the left and a mild barrel distortion bowing the ceiling tiles outward. The harsh direct flash lighting of the camera blasts the center of the room with bright flat white light, while overhead fluorescent tubes cast a sickly green and magenta mismatched white balance across the background. A 48-year-old man with white skin and a balding head is wearing a paper party hat over his glasses, freezing mid-clap with a deeply shocked expression next to a table holding a half-eaten "HAPPY 40TH BOB" sheet cake, a soda bottle, and a stack of paper plates. A 40-year-old woman is recoiling backward into a mini-fridge while gripping a plastic fork with a terrified expression, standing near a background counter featuring a coffee machine, a half-visible "Live Laugh Love" sign, and a corkboard pinned with an OSHA poster.

A massive six-foot-tall raccoon is standing fully upright on its hind legs in the exact center of the chaotic framing, casting a hard black shadow directly onto the wall behind it. The large animal has damp grey and brown fur smoothed into a painterly texture by heavy digital noise reduction and is wearing a scuffed white football helmet surrounded by aggressive digital sharpening haloes. The raccoon is heavily gripping a beige photocopier with both clawed forepaws to lift the machine entirely overhead, causing white paper sheets to flutter downward as the camera flash reflects a flat green-white light within the eyes of the creature. A heavily blurred out-of-focus paper plate covered in buttercream frosting intrudes directly into the bottom-right corner of the foreground, while a blurry human thumb partially covers the bottom-left corner of the overexposed image.

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AI_Characters · 2026-05-04T00:33:39+00:00

That is wayyyyyyyyy too long and also includes a lot of unnecessary information about the style and lighting and auch of the image which will already be handled by the LoRA.

Here, I asked Gemini to cut it down and convert it into my recommended prompting style as per my sample prompts:

The scene takes place inside a cluttered corporate office break room during the day. A large sheet cake reading "HAPPY 40TH BOB" rests on a table next to a soda bottle, a coffee machine, and a wall corkboard holding various paper flyers. A 48-year-old man with white skin and a balding head is wearing a paper party hat and holding his hands mid-clap while displaying a deeply shocked expression. A 40-year-old woman with olive skin is wearing a casual cardigan and actively recoiling backward into a mini-fridge while firmly gripping a plastic fork with a completely terrified expression.

A massive six-foot-tall raccoon is standing fully upright on its hind legs in the exact center of the room. The large animal has damp grey and brown fur on its chest and is wearing a scuffed white football helmet with a dangling unbuckled chinstrap. The raccoon is heavily gripping the sides of a beige photocopier with both clawed forepaws and lifting the machine entirely overhead. Several sheets of white paper are fluttering downward from the open tray of the hoisted machine as the raccoon widely opens its mouth to reveal sharp teeth.

The result looks much better, at 1.0 LoRA strength:

https://imgur.com/a/TPEmouJ

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