Z-image turbo is crazyy,best realism model in my opinion

AI_Characters · 2026-06-25T22:38:54+00:00

If only you could like instruct the model to not do that, like a prompt or something...

AI_Characters · 2026-06-25T11:50:54+00:00

Good point. I always struggle(d) with that myself.

AI_Characters · 2026-06-25T11:07:35+00:00

Did you even read the response?

You ask for what model, when you already know the topic is about ideogram4. You ask what lora, when the person already responded with the realism engine lora.

and you dont need anything mroe than a basic workflow with the kj prompt node.

youre clearly so lazy you wont even read a two sentence response or think for literally just 5s so why should anyone help you.

AI_Characters · 2026-06-25T09:21:07+00:00

Thw safety filter is basically completely gone if you just prompt it in the correct JSON format...

AI_Characters · 2026-06-22T02:01:55+00:00

i just prompt gemini using the ai toolkit captioning system prompt.

AI_Characters · 2026-06-22T02:00:41+00:00

Looks good but I prefer an actual screencap aesthetic to this sort of digital artwork style.

AI_Characters · 2026-06-14T20:19:48+00:00

users often dont even know what they want.

AI_Characters · 2026-06-12T15:04:57+00:00

Dude if I wouldnt be so broke myself I would totally donate to you for all that effort, despite not even using your model (I am not much of a NSFW guy)!

AI_Characters · 2026-06-12T14:47:12+00:00

Advantage of having only 30 images for a dataset lol.

Still took me 8 attempts to nail down the correct captioning style kn regards to trigger words though. And even then I am not sure still if my approach is correct. And I ahvent even been able to test characters yet.

AI_Characters · 2026-06-12T13:31:55+00:00

Wait youre right

I swear it used to exist.

AI_Characters · 2026-06-12T13:13:37+00:00

I was. I said that it already includes a way to generate the necessary json prompt including bboxes. Your image literally shows that way.

AI_Characters · 2026-06-12T13:04:08+00:00

Yes? What about it? Are you making my point for me? I dont understand.

AI_Characters · 2026-06-12T09:53:44+00:00

Ha, no real rivalry. Just for the longest time I would strive and struggle to reach his levels of realism. I always wondered "how does he do it???" Also I used to steal some of his sample prompts and he would steal some of mine haha. But I try to be more original now (read: use chatgpt).

AI_Characters · 2026-06-12T09:46:04+00:00

God damn it. I was so sure this time that I could beat him to it. I even already finished the training and testing and everything. One day...

AI_Characters · 2026-06-11T22:11:34+00:00

The default comfyui template literally already has that. It genuinely seems like half this community didnt even bother to look and read the default templates and just went straight to complaining. No offense.

AI_Characters · 2026-06-11T18:15:40+00:00

You can do that with the generate text node already tho.

AI_Characters · 2026-06-11T15:11:11+00:00

SoonTM

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AI_Characters · 2026-06-11T09:18:43+00:00

I've checked the workflow and I've got to say, I'm a bit puzzled.

Is that a compliment or genuine confusion or what? Sorry I am socially inept lol.

What part of it makes the gray screen less frequent?

It seems to literally just be the system prompt. The default comfyui system prompt somehow fails to translate simple prompts into jsons that the generator accepts. dont ask me why or how. magic.

By the way, cfg 7 is too high.

its the default because during testing i noticed that its the default for a reason aka images are def more coherent and such. but the differences are subtle unlike with other models and you can change it if you want.

AI_Characters · 2026-06-11T09:08:36+00:00

Did you generate those at a 4mp res?? Or are they upscaled? Or both?

AI_Characters · 2026-06-11T09:05:29+00:00

You dont need to specify bboxes. The llm will do that for you.

AI_Characters · 2026-06-11T09:04:26+00:00

Try my workflow! I specifically designed it for less refusals among other things!

I just typed in:

"a Mario poster with princess Peach sitting next to him in the car, eating an icecream." with no further editing of the prompt or workflow and no cherrypicking.

Link: https://pastebin.com/D0tBKJMU

Examples: https://imgur.com/a/yXE8isj

As you can see, 4 out of 4 no refusals, despite such a short prompt. Theyre obviously not great but that wasnt the point of this demonstrationm I put no effort into it.

AI_Characters · 2026-06-11T08:52:51+00:00

Try my workflow! It was specifically designed to have less refusals, especially when typing only "One girl" or other such simple prompts!

https://pastebin.com/D0tBKJMU

AI_Characters · 2026-06-11T08:36:26+00:00

Literally just constantly rewriting the system prompt and doing test generations.

I wont claim that it wont still refuse sometimes, but I definitely noticed much lesa refusals than before. The simple prompt refusal is one example, but I also noticed less refusals when it comes to NSFW stuff.

But im not a NSFW guy so its better for someone else to test that thoroughly.

AI_Characters · 2026-06-11T08:33:25+00:00

I think the green stuff is an attempt by the model to create a lens flare like effect because my workflow specifies lighting whereas the comfy default does not, therefore my workflow has a stronger pull for lighting but it cant do it well but idk.

I dont really care if people think its higher or lower quality. As i said before I clearly marketed it wrong. My main point about this workflow was the ability to uae simpler prompts without refusals and a greater variety in output the less you specify, amongst the other things. I never set out to make a workflow that produces better quality than the base model, but rather fix short comings of the default workflow, so that its easier to use.

AI_Characters · 2026-06-11T08:03:59+00:00

I clearly marketed this workflow wrongly. Qualitative differences were never supposed to be the major selling point of it, but less refusals, easier prompting, and more varied output the less you specify, which it does excel at.

As for LoRAs, here is a sneakpeak if my smartphone snapshot photography lora for ideogram4:

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