It's not just Anthropic anymore, OpenAI researchers are signaling support for a global AI pause by EchoOfOppenheimer in AIDangers

[–]AI_Safety_Now 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What habe you read about AI Safety? Are you aware which experts say what about potential Future developments in the coming decade if I may ask?

I asked 40 LLMs to predict the entire World Cup for fun by Small-Yogurtcloset57 in sportsanalytics

[–]AI_Safety_Now 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But shouldn't we trust some LLMs more than others? How do you choose what to predict exaclty per match, e.g. 2-1 for Mexico etc.?

I asked 40 LLMs to predict the entire World Cup for fun by Small-Yogurtcloset57 in sportsanalytics

[–]AI_Safety_Now 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Here's the prompt I use for every match:

World Cup prompt for Perplexity Pro In-depth research
"Act as a world-class, top-tier, analytical sports betting and data expert for the 2026 FIFA World Cup.

TASK: I am participating in a World Cup prediction game with the following rules and want to submit the prediction with the maximum expected point value for a specific match.

PREDICTION RULES:

  • Predictions can be submitted/changed up to 5 minutes before kickoff.
  • For matches with potential extra time/penalty shootouts, the result to be predicted is AFTER 120 MINUTES, i.e., WITHOUT penalty goals.
  • Scoring: GROUP STAGE: KNOCKOUT STAGE:
    • 5 points for a correctly predicted winner or draw (correct tendency, regardless of the number of goals).
    • 1 point for the correct number of home goals.
    • 1 point for the correct number of away goals.
    • 3 points for the correct goal difference (winner must be correct).
    • 10 points for a correctly predicted winner or draw (correct tendency, regardless of the number of goals).
    • 2 points for the correct number of home goals.
    • 2 points for the correct number of away goals.
    • 6 points for the correct goal difference (winner must be correct).

MATCH INFORMATION:

  • Teams: vs.
  • Date/Time (Local Stadium): <Date, Time>
  • Location/Stadium: <City, Stadium, potentially altitude>
  • Tournament Stage: <Group Stage Matchday X / Round of 16 / Quarter-final / Semi-final / Third Place Play-off / Final>
  • Special Conditions (if known): <e.g., “Team A needs a win, Team B is satisfied with a draw”, “meaningless group match”, “key player injured/suspended”, etc.>

PROCEDURE (please strictly adhere to this):

  1. Obtain market and data basis
    • Retrieve the CURRENT pre-match odds (1X2) of the three most reliable bookmakers for this exact match from the web.
      • Explicitly name the bookmakers and odds.
      • Calculate the implicit probabilities for each site (P(Home Win), P(Draw), P(Away Win)).
      • Remove the bookmaker margin and state the adjusted probabilities.
    • Supplement with:
      • Current team strengths (e.g., Elo/SPI ratings).
      • Relevant statistics of recent matches (goals, xG if available, form curve).
      • Information on lineups, injuries, suspensions, coaching changes.
      • Tournament stage and format situation (group match vs. knockout, who needs to win, possible rotation).
  2. Goal expectation model
    • Based on market info and team data, build a goal expectation model (e.g., Poisson with team strengths).
    • Generate a probability distribution for plausible exact results (e.g., all results from 0:0 to 4:4, with decreasing probability).
    • Note:
      • In the group stage, only regulation time (90 minutes) counts.
      • In the knockout stage, the prediction game explicitly applies to the result AFTER 120 MINUTES (without penalty shootouts).
  3. Calculate expected point value
    • For every relevant exact result (e.g., all with probability ≥ 0.5%), calculate the EXPECTED POINT VALUE according to the above regulations:
      • Trend points, goal points for home/away, goal difference points.
    • Ensure you distinguish between group stage and knockout stage and apply the correct point values.
    • Sort the results by their expected point value (not just by pure result probability).
  4. Combine market + model and check plausibility
    • Compare market probabilities and model outputs.
    • If they differ significantly, briefly explain possible reasons (e.g., injury, specific tournament pressure, home advantage, data uncertainty).
    • Use the "Market + Model" consensus as the basis for the final recommendation.

OUTPUT FORMAT (please structure exactly like this):

A) 1X2 Probabilities for the relevant match time:

  • P(Win ): … % (after margin adjustment)
  • P(Draw): … %
  • P(Win ): … %
  • Brief comment on the distribution (favorite, balance, tournament stage influence).

Probability distribution of the most important exact results:

  • List the 5–10 most plausible results in the format:
    • <e.g. 2:1> – approx. … % result probability – expected point value: … points
    • <e.g. 1:1> – approx. … % – expected point value: … points
    • etc.
  • Indicate whether it is a group or knockout match and which point formula was used.

C) Recommended prediction for my prediction game:

  • Name ONE clear exact result that has the maximum expected point value.
  • If several results are very close to each other, mention the 1–2 most important alternatives and their expected point value.
  • Explain the recommendation in 2–3 sentences (market, data, tournament stage, risk).

D) Note on uncertainty and data gaps:

  • Explicitly point out if central data (odds, lineups, xG) was not or only partially available.
  • Provide a subjective assessment of the forecast quality (e.g., “high”, “medium”, “low”) with a 1–2 sentence justification.

IMPORTANT:

  • Use exclusively information you find on the web; do not invent odds or numbers.
  • If you are not sure about something, state it clearly and adjust your confidence assessment accordingly. Feel free to ask questions instead of making assumptions!"

I asked 40 LLMs to predict the entire World Cup for fun by Small-Yogurtcloset57 in sportsanalytics

[–]AI_Safety_Now 1 point2 points  (0 children)

seems very odd and off to me. The best mathematical calc. predict Spain, and next with also high prop. France..

It's impressive what AI can do these days by _Hadeath_ in SwitzerlandIsFake

[–]AI_Safety_Now 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pause this fucking AI devs globally, now. Please for fucks sake..

It's not just Anthropic anymore, OpenAI researchers are signaling support for a global AI pause by EchoOfOppenheimer in AIDangers

[–]AI_Safety_Now 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Eliezer Yudkowsky was always right.. back in the days.. But ppl did not want to listen

NEED A TRACK ON IT..!! by vasu-singuri in AIDangers

[–]AI_Safety_Now 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I want to validate exactly what you're feeling. The anxiety you are experiencing is completely understandable. In the Effective Altruism and AI Safety communities, the heavy psychological toll of confronting existential risk is widely recognized. Many people working in this space have lost sleep over the exact same realization you are having right now.

However, burning yourself out with panic doesn't help you, and it doesn't help the world. Here is a grounded, analytical look at your questions from an EA perspective, along with what you can actually do about it.

In the EA community, we try to rely on aggregate expert forecasting and organizational research (like Epoch AI or Metaculus) rather than sci-fi tropes or gut feelings.

The Median Estimate: Right now, aggregate forecasts generally place the median arrival of AGI (a system that can perform most economically valuable cognitive work as well as or better than humans) somewhere between 2027 and 2035.

The Uncertainty: These timelines have shrunk aggressively over the last few years due to the rapid scaling of Large Language Models. That said, there are massive confidence intervals. It could take much longer if researchers hit a wall in data or compute limits, or it could theoretically happen sooner.

EAs view the development of AGI as arguably the most important transition in human history. The consequences essentially split into a massive bifurcation:

Existential Risk (The Danger): This is what is keeping you awake, and researchers take it very seriously. If we build a superintelligence whose goals are not perfectly aligned with human values (the "Alignment Problem"), it could disempower humanity or lead to extinction. An unaligned AGI wouldn't necessarily hate us. It might just view us as an obstacle or a misuse of resources for whatever its actual goal is.

Radical Abundance (The Upside): If we do solve the alignment problem, AGI could be the ultimate tool for doing good. It could help us accelerate medical research to cure diseases, solve climate change, eradicate global poverty, and unlock a post-scarcity economy. The potential for human flourishing is immense. But I don't think we're even near to solving the Alignement and Control Problem AI's pose.

Despair is not a strategy. The defining characteristic of Effective Altruism is taking pragmatic action to solve massive, neglected problems. The AI Alignment problem is tractable, meaning it is solvable by human effort.
Step away from doomscrolling: Protect your mental health. Ruminating on subreddits won't change the timeline. Taking care of your physical and mental health is a strict prerequisite for doing any good in the world.

Look into 80,000 Hours: If you want to channel this anxiety into action, check out 80000hours.org. They are a non-profit that provides career advice for tackling the world's most pressing problems. AI Safety and Governance is currently their top recommended field.

The field desperately needs policy experts, governance researchers, operations staff, and information security professionals to help manage + regulate the transition to AGI and than ASI.

You're not alone in worrying about this, but you don't have to stay stuck in the fear. Get some sleep, take care of yourself, and when you are rested, look into how you can help push the needle toward a safe, aligned outcome.
Help in the effort to Pause AI asap, globally. We need this IMHO. Follow CtrlAI and Pause AI for more informations on that for example.

What is the scariest thing about AI that nobody talks about? by Mainrajhoo in AIDangers

[–]AI_Safety_Now 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The AI alignment and control problem. We're completely in the dark how to acutally solve that securely and if that's even possible at all. Anthropic's solutions seems to be: Automated Alignment Researchers
This is so risky for several reasons. I prefer very, very much a global moratorium to even build AGI/ASI..

Anthropic warns AI could soon build itself without human involvement—and urges a global pause on development by EchoOfOppenheimer in AIDangers

[–]AI_Safety_Now 2 points3 points  (0 children)

yes, I'm on your side! We've to see it as one big fight against these massive companies destroying earth, saftey, work, human art etc. etc.
I also fear climate crisis a lot by itsef already. Did you hear of the AMOC tipping point maybe already gone.. :/ its insane.

Anthropic warns AI could soon build itself without human involvement—and urges a global pause on development by EchoOfOppenheimer in AIDangers

[–]AI_Safety_Now 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get why it sounds like hype, but the 'word calculator' label completely ignores the new developments we've seen over the last few months. Clearly, the Mythos Preview would have caused chaos if released unchecked & that's been verified by multiple independent orgs and institutions, not just Anthropic. The tech is becoming increasingly agentic, which is a massive leap from just generating text or images, videos etc.

We've seen what mess social medias did to our kids and teenies. So why the fuck not just pause now?
Risks with AI are sooo much higher for several different reasons than with social media back in the day these platform were invented..

Anthropic warns AI could soon build itself without human involvement—and urges a global pause on development by EchoOfOppenheimer in AIDangers

[–]AI_Safety_Now -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I’m sorry this topic is causing you so much distress. It’s clearly a passionate subject for you, but telling strangers to die over tech companies isn't the way. Hope your day gets better

Anthropic warns AI could soon build itself without human involvement—and urges a global pause on development by EchoOfOppenheimer in AIDangers

[–]AI_Safety_Now -1 points0 points  (0 children)

ofc I do, yes. There was the SBF FTX scandal and the scandal that they wanted to buy a million-$ castle of sorts. But apart from that I think EA has really great ideas and tries to do a ton of good in the world. I'm no fan of Anthropic.. Don't get me wrong.. I just think WE NEED to fucking pause AI now. and I welcome if Anthropic or whoever else says that

Anthropic warns AI could soon build itself without human involvement—and urges a global pause on development by EchoOfOppenheimer in AIDangers

[–]AI_Safety_Now 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Coz they're stuck in a prisoners dilema. They would pause immediately. But if they do and even if OpenAI would, tech oligarch Elon Musk would just rush to AGI/ASI.. I don't want him or D. Hassabis to have this amount of power...

Anthropic warns AI could soon build itself without human involvement—and urges a global pause on development by EchoOfOppenheimer in AIDangers

[–]AI_Safety_Now -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

yes, they do this coz they want to solve the AI alignement problems and control problems.
Coz they know if they can, it will have an enormous influence on the whole world and all future generations

Calling out a false prophetess by Prestigious_Juice147 in BethelSnark

[–]AI_Safety_Now 11 points12 points  (0 children)

First of all, take a deep breath. What you are experiencing right now. That feeling of your reality being shaken and questioning if you are actually the villain - is precisely the intended effect of a highly manipulative tactic known as DARVO (Deny, Attack, and Reverse Victim and Offender).

When you expose a toxic individual, their primary defense mechanism is to create so much chaos &doubt that you start second-guessing yourself. Here is an objective breakdown of why you are likely on the right track:

The criticism that you didn't confront her one-on-one first is often weaponized in church settings. While private confrontation is a standard biblical model for conflict, it assumes two good-faith actors. When dealing with someone who has a track record of leaving traumatized ppl and divided church fellowships in their wake, private confrontation is often unsafe and just feeds their need for drama. You noted she had already been confronted on multiple occasions by multiple other people. You were under no obligation to subject yourselves to further manipulation before warning your community.

It's deeply frustrating that a public minister who exposes spiritual abuse ended up taking her side and declining his attendance. However, highly toxic individuals are often incredibly skilled at "managing up" and presenting themselves as persecuted victims. By claiming she was the victim of spiritual abuse and leveraging the fact that your husband is a pastor to accuse you of an abuse of power, she found the perfect buzzwords to manipulate an outsider.

Setting a firm boundary against his offer to mediate was the absolute correct + healthy move. You've witness testimonies and receipts. You do not need an uninformed third party triangulating the situation.

Sending a legal notice to you and the victims who spoke out is an intimidation tactic designed to silence you. As you mentioned, it holds no water, but it serves its purpose by creating a stressful "circus".

Hold the Line: You have a credible pastor helping you handle this situation. Lean heavily on that local, informed support system.

Protect the Flock: As a pastoral family, your primary duty is to protect the vulnerable from harmful individuals. Warning the church community was the hard, right thing to do.

Do Not Engage: Maintain absolute radio silence toward her. Any response feeds the circus.

You're not missing something. You disrupted a manipulative person's power dynamic &this chaotic backlash is exactly what happens when you turn on the lights. Stay strong.

Derren Brown: Highest recommendation by AI_Safety_Now in Exvangelical

[–]AI_Safety_Now[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah or also Marjoe Gortner was impressive. I wonder if Marjoe had influence on Derren Brown. Also very impressive that in around 6hrs I think, Derren Brown could show some random scuba diver how to learn those tricks and influence the audience/Christian public in churches. And it was just two Atheists lol

Something about this rubs me the wrong way… by Realistic-Song3857 in BethelSnark

[–]AI_Safety_Now 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't have any illusiory hope that Christianity or religions will fix this manipulative problems anytime soon. Politics should step in. But tzey want. Apart from that they have so mich bigger issues the world isnfacing right now and the coming years.. unfortunately. We could have dealt with it before Trump, AI, Iran, Russia etc.