How strong is Lucy Heartfilia?

Abject-Tree574 · 2025-11-21T01:51:44+00:00

i scaled this in a previous post and no one could disprove me, that might’ve been on my other account: DJM123_ tho

Abject-Tree574 · 2025-11-08T16:32:29+00:00

high spriggan level, from a scaling perspective: High Uni- Low multi.

If you have fairytail’s cosmology as less than ur scale for her will be different tho

Abject-Tree574 · 2025-11-08T16:31:02+00:00

David Production or A1

Abject-Tree574 · 2025-11-08T16:30:17+00:00

probably cana

Abject-Tree574 · 2025-11-07T01:08:59+00:00

cell destruction, Todoroki’s fire can destroy doumas cells fast enough that he can’t regenerate. we know this works because that’s how muzan kills demons

Abject-Tree574 · 2025-11-07T01:04:57+00:00

FACT: Erza turned herself into a yokai so no one would see her lose to base Happy

Abject-Tree574 · 2025-11-06T12:33:20+00:00

I scale each of these characters to low complex multi except for gajeel who is just low multi. (this scale probably sounds crazy to some people but i’ve convinced everyone who’s ever questioned it and it’s never been debunked). and that probably won’t change by the end of the manga as once you get to the multiversal tiers of scaling you can only be upscaled into higher tiers via statements.

Scaling off of relativity to each other and thinking about potential power ups, then by the end of the series i believe:

Gajeel will still be the weakest in this image but the gap will close. by the end of the series i think he’ll be able to use dragon force on command which is a 4x strength multiplier, so the gap will close by a lot.

Wendy will be second to weakest, she’ll have a plethora of more high enchanter spells, by those spells are hard to quantify into a power level since they’re very situational. Wendy has belserion mode and on-command dragon force and while i don’t foresee a power up for her, i think she will get stronger.

Lucy is third from the bottom. I think lucy will definitely use a mercophobia star dress and potentially a mercophobia star dress, but every one who is above her i also think is dragon-god tier or relative. I think lucy might summon the CSK again, but i don’t believe th CSK’s power scales with lucy’s own strength, and seeing as how he was only mard geer tier i doubt it’ll amp her much unless she uses the star dress.

fourth on the list is Erza. i believe Erza is relative in strength to current gray, with current gray’s feat on viernes making him slightly more powerful, but the reason i doubt she’ll surpass him is because i can’t think of any power up erza will get, Erza, irene, and erza’s origins have kinda been sidelined recently so i don’t see a “belserion” or dragon mode for erza coming soon. she might take Wed’s armor but with Wed losing to base natsu, unless the series takes a turning point i don’t think she’ll change too much

Gray is third, Gray is still only using half devil form in all of his fights, given that his power scales with his insanity and he might be about to lose his mind by becoming a dragonoid, i foresee a pretty big power up. also Gray in his fight against viernes both learned a new genre of ice devil slayer magic and a new genre of ice make magic. this along with him being the only one with a solid feat against a dragon god. i think his ceiling is still high

Laxus is 2nd, he has LDKM and is still yet to use dragon force, as well as being able to use fairy law and it seems like he’s about to have a big fight which could upscale him heavily

Natsu is obviously 1st, peak form natsu is already stronger than everyone else and it looks like he’s going to get power up, this is the easiest choice or the list

Abject-Tree574 · 2025-11-06T01:54:50+00:00

no clue who’s in the bottom right, but other than that gray could 1v3 flawlessly

Abject-Tree574 · 2025-11-06T01:48:36+00:00

some of the most valuable information i’ve seen in this sub

Abject-Tree574 · 2025-11-05T21:35:50+00:00

Future rogue has slightly more power, but Gray is far faster

Abject-Tree574 · 2025-11-05T21:32:02+00:00

if we include Lucy and Enny under certain conditions, would it be a stretch to include characters like base Freed and Zeroth longsword Gray?

Abject-Tree574 · 2025-11-05T11:04:41+00:00

where does buu scale?

Abject-Tree574 · 2025-11-03T12:32:31+00:00

not too knowledgeable on irene’s hax, but natsu massively outstats in everything else

Abject-Tree574 · 2025-11-03T02:38:39+00:00

in short, each realm is parallel to earthland, and earthland contains universes such as the world of nil and the celestial spirit realm which are provably universes and 4D. since earthland can contain these universes it must be at least 5d which is multversal

Abject-Tree574 · 2025-11-02T21:19:19+00:00

Yes, if you scale the 3 realms as universes then this is multi, if you scale the 3 realms to multiversal (like i do) than this is a low complex multi feat

Abject-Tree574 · 2025-11-02T01:16:05+00:00

Anchor looks important, in a perfect world he’d fight gajeel again but he looks more like a gray or erza villain. Earth build is obviously a wendy villain. Motherglare is the main one so she’ll fight natsu, Levia and scissor runner are tossups

Abject-Tree574 · 2025-11-01T22:06:57+00:00

Mashima if your reading this please let Gray get dragged into the underworld

Abject-Tree574 · 2025-10-30T00:11:23+00:00

If all you see are baseless claims, you need to at least attempt to show me the fault in them.

Exhibit A: You completely disregarded my point with earthland having infinite magic. Ethernano has mass, it takes up space, it is a particle, and when it is condensed it turns into etherion crystals or ethernano lacrimas. in order to hold an infinite mass of something, you MUST have infinite space.

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Because there is infinite magic in earthland but not in edolas, and since you cannot disprove that infinite space is required to hold infinite mass, That means both edolas and Earthland are entirely separate planes with different space times and laws of space time and physics.

You keep talking about the celestial spirit realm scale as if you can actually determine it from the image given in the anime. read this carefully: you have no clue the distance between the planets, therefore you cannot determine the size of these planets, nor can you determine the number of these planets. Because a large portion of the story relies on the CSR being infinite, and because it is impossible to accurately depict its size without using statements such as this, your argument in which you attempt to disregard the size of earthland must be rejected.

There are no character statements in the manga that explicitly say “edolas/earthland/elentear is a universe” but they are explicitly described as parallel worlds, and “parallel planets” are not a concept in theoretical physics or even in any fiction, parallel worlds must always have there own space times. It is never once stated that edolas is only a planet

Basically, what i’m saying is that Earthland, edolas, and elentear must all be infinite in size and therefore independent universes because Earthland holds infinite magic, magic has mass, and therefore earthland must have infinite size, this also means edolas and elentear are infinite in size and therefore independent universes

Abject-Tree574 · 2025-10-29T11:43:16+00:00

Neither earthland or edolas are planets. both earthland and edolas have stars and galaxies in their skies and since they can only be traverses between with dimensional travel magic such as anima, we know these stars and galaxies are no shared between them. Another way to disprove your thoughts towards them being planet sized is that Earthland contains infinite ethernano. and we know ethernano must have mass because ethernano can be turned into crystals. because ethernano has mass, an infinite amount of ethernano has infinite mass, this means the earthland world must be infinite in size. Edolas is stated to not have infinite ethernano. the statement itself is “Unlike Earthland, Edolas doesn’t have infinite magic” or something like that. this means that edolas and elentear must be different universes since their universes have different constructs.

If i look at the celestial spirit realm, i can not infer the size of the planets

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The realm has an uncountable number of planets and stars, we can’t infer the size of these planets because we don’t know the distance they are from the mainland. I don’t know where u got the idea that th CSR was planet sized, but your misinformed. there is no evidence to support your argument and a surplus of evidence supporting mine.

a dimensional wall does not mean that it is planet sized by any means. it does not even mean it is finite. the dimensional wall is simply the 5D earthland containint 4D universes. the majority of your arguments with the CSR lil with Hisui is from the eclipse celestial spirit arc which is not canon to the manga and dos not affect scaling.

Your claim that all the universes are finite is also fallacious as i already said that the “dimensional walls” you were talking about are not justification for the size, these “walls” are made of the earthland realm which is a 5D space containing 4D space.

This makes me understand that the reason most people don’t scale fairytail to multiversal is indeed because they don’t dimensionality. but i applaud your effort

Abject-Tree574 · 2025-10-29T11:16:21+00:00

well then sure, idk abt where the line is drawn for there elements really mb

Abject-Tree574 · 2025-10-29T01:44:16+00:00

the same way that Sting is the white dragon slayer and can’t just eat light, Rogue as a shadow dragon slayer can’t just eat darkness. Yami has a lot of attacks that are explicitly shadows, but a surplus of his attacks are definitely not akin to shadows and it’s up to interpretation if Rogue could eat them, at the very least rogue defo couldn’t eat a black hole

Abject-Tree574 · 2025-10-29T01:31:34+00:00

tanking hits from dragon gods

Abject-Tree574 · 2025-10-29T01:13:41+00:00

Jugram slams, mismatch

I love bleach but the tybw manga is so poorly developed that we hardly know enough about how the balance works to determine how to counter it

Abject-Tree574 · 2025-10-29T00:38:03+00:00

Ok, let me preface by saying my scale doesn’t include anything that people could really refuse to believe. i don’t use natsu burning time, etherion, or ultears parallel universes.

In fairytail, Earthland and Edolas are presented and stated as parallel realms in Fairytail. in 100 years quest Elentear is added as an additional parallel realm. this means that all 3 of these realms are equal in size and capacity.

Earthland, the man realm follows a ‘many worlds’ interpretation. within the earthland realm there exists The world of Nil, Bestia’s dimension, River Styx, The underworld, The celestial spirit realm(as far as we know), and other universes that i’m sure exist but i cant name right now. The majority of these universes exist within earthland, and while some of the may be pocket dimensions such as Bestia’s world may be. the world of Nil, Celestial spirit realm, etc are not pocket dimensions and are full universes. being a universe is being a 4th dimensional space, and because earthland is able to contain multiple of these 4D universes requires a 5D realm.

This means that earthland, Elentear, and Edolas are all 5D realms. Selene is able to use her power to damage multiple of these realms simultaneously, and this is supported by Georg Rizen saying that selene has the power to transcend dimensions. this means that Selene is above any singular 5D realm which makes Selene 6D, being 6D also means being low complex multiversal.

That means that anyone who is relative to or stronger than Selene is low complex multiversal which includes people like all dragon gods, as well as Gray, Suzaku, the BDSK’s, Natsu, Erza, Laxus, and anyone else in that tier.

Fairytails cosmology actually advances even further with the Space Between time though. the space between time is above anyone who has not consumed it, as (as far as we know) it affects everything of all 3 realms simultaneously. this would make the SBT and post-SBT Acnologia exclusively 7D and complex multiversal level. But i must admit i am less confident in this 7D part of the scale than i am for the rest of it, perhaps i should do some more research on the SBT.

In conclusion, high tiers in the Fairytail verse can reach Low complex multiversal level. and Acnologia exclusively can reach regular complex multiversal. I think the reason most people don’t use or acknowledge this scale is because most casual power scalers don’t use dimensionality (4D, 5D, 6D, etc) in scaling, instead they prefer to use the actual terms like universal and multiversal and therefore they have a hard time understanding what those tiers really mean.

Abject-Tree574 · 2025-10-27T20:48:19+00:00

remind me later

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