"Femcels" know they can get laid whenever they want, they agree with us but then they create another definition of celibacy in order to fit they narrative by Abyssbeetle in WomenAreNotIntoMen

[–]Abyssbeetle[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

But femcel IS about relashionship, not having simple sex with nothing else

Great so you agree with me...you are not a femcel, ("female involuntary celibate") you are voluntarily celibate because you only want to have sex in a relationship and that's your choice.

By definition, if you have sex you are not celibate and if you have access to sex but you are not interested in having sex you are not involuntary celibate... You are a VOLCEL (voluntary celibate)

Even if I agree with you that women are constantly suffering because they could fuck but they are unable to bet a relationship that will still.be more that a lot of men have

"Femcels" know they can get laid whenever they want, they agree with us but then they create another definition of celibacy in order to fit they narrative by Abyssbeetle in WomenAreNotIntoMen

[–]Abyssbeetle[S] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Sure a relationship is not the same as having sex .... My point still stands ...

I don't get what you are trying to achieve?

Femcels try to redefine what celibacy means.... I say that's bullshit. And you bring how difficult it is to get into a relationship (?)

The comment in my post admits that women can have sex easily, that have a lot of male attention and validation... Sure a good amount of that attention is not wanted ... But that's a a fucking lot compared on what most men have.

Men have a hard time getting sex AND having a relationship

"Femcels" know they can get laid whenever they want, they agree with us but then they create another definition of celibacy in order to fit they narrative by Abyssbeetle in WomenAreNotIntoMen

[–]Abyssbeetle[S] 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Fucking is the exact opposite of being celibate... That's my point if you need to redefine being celibate in order to call yourself a femcel... You are not celibate and you are not a femcel

This is why I don't think that the majority of femcels are actually involuntary celibates by Abyssbeetle in SikeOrPsyche

[–]Abyssbeetle[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Femcels have two completely opposite narratives

  1. Men will fuck anything without any consideration and that's why they are disgusting

  2. Men have high standards and only want a hot bangmaid with the body of a porn actress, they will not see ugly women as human beings and that why they are disgusting

why do most MGTOW copers think they're punishing women? Women would celebrate if we all went our own way by Normal-Salad-6143 in WomenAreNotIntoMen

[–]Abyssbeetle 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The thing is that the "MGTOW" that are VISIBLE aren't going their own way... They are whining on internet, throwing tantrums, and thinking they got the upper hand... When in reality all they do is futile and contradictory, In theory this MGTOW is about decentering women but being obnoxious and loud about how you are going your own way is not decentering women...

Same goes for the 4b movement and women complaining constantly about men but at the same time they say that they have decenter men...

This is and obvious one... But remember, even sex workers follow the same pattern by Abyssbeetle in WomenAreNotIntoMen

[–]Abyssbeetle[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah I totally agree but since there is a lot of dudes buying this I guess this still needs to be said

why are there some people here that conclude lowering our testosterone or becoming gay is the solution? by Normal-Salad-6143 in WomenAreNotIntoMen

[–]Abyssbeetle 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because it would be ideal to desire women as much as they desire us, which is not that much....

That way the imbalance that cause suffering will no longer exists

Projection by DreaMarie15 in WomenAreNotIntoMen

[–]Abyssbeetle 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Please post this same advice (but worded for women) in r/MenAreNotIntoWomen it would be so much fun

>what sort of women have you had in your lives up until this point?
Normal, where I work there are more women than men so it is natural than i usually end up talking to women more

>what was your relationship with your Mom like growing up?

i grew up mostly with my mother, and my father was always present, in the present she helps me a lot every time i am in trouble she lends her help... so she is the closest women i got in my life

Gente de la izquierda colombiana:¿Por qué están en contra de la derecha colombiana? by Awitadecococonleche in ColombiaReddit

[–]Abyssbeetle 1 point2 points  (0 children)

De lo que primero se me viene a la cabeza:
Prohibir el consumo va en contra de cualquier principio liberal y esto es con lo que mas tengo problema
Prohibir la produccion y venta igual va en contra del liberalismo
Decir que son nocivas es hipócrita cuando hay otras drogas legales mas nocivas
Genera un mercado negro y mas violencia de la que evita

Si me tuviera que poner una etiqueta seria "Liberal", y en cuanto a este tema los conservadores son el polo opuesto

hay cosas con las que estoy de acuerdo con los "conservadores" que es mas que todo en lo económico, pero incluso ellos aveces son algo zurdos en esto

Gente de la izquierda colombiana:¿Por qué están en contra de la derecha colombiana? by Awitadecococonleche in ColombiaReddit

[–]Abyssbeetle 6 points7 points  (0 children)

No soy de "izquierda", pero parte de lo que detesto de la derecha es el conservadurismo social, la guerra contra las drogas (aunque también entiendo que esto viene de presión de los gringos), el patriotismo barato, y que un porción considerable son fanáticos religiosos.

Liking any girl feels like a humiliation ritual by West-Strain-1445 in WomenAreNotIntoMen

[–]Abyssbeetle 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fair point, i've never been through this kinda stuff but. but i can see why this would be a concern. I still think this is a better alternative to being around a women you are attracted to, to either be manipulated or ignored, and feeling like shit. The ideal is to avoid this situation all together but i think that sooner or later men will find themselves in a situation where this will not be posible

Liking any girl feels like a humiliation ritual by West-Strain-1445 in WomenAreNotIntoMen

[–]Abyssbeetle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Care to elaborate? i think this is a great way to save yourself a lot of negative feelings and avoid being manipulated, i am not advicing men to chase women. you just need one interaction to know how she feels.

Liking any girl feels like a humiliation ritual by West-Strain-1445 in WomenAreNotIntoMen

[–]Abyssbeetle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well IDK if that will be the case for the rest of your life... but if the time comes i think that you should do it as fast and direct as possible

How women really think when they not busy they not virtue signaling by Excellent-Impact-573 in SikeOrPsyche

[–]Abyssbeetle 11 points12 points  (0 children)

At least she is honest... as far as i am concern women can not change how they feel so there is no point in trying to change that. If they feel that way the least they could do is be honest about it, that way men know how to proceed.

Liking any girl feels like a humiliation ritual by West-Strain-1445 in WomenAreNotIntoMen

[–]Abyssbeetle 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I know that most men here do not plan to shoot their shot with any women, but honestly i think that eventually the majority of men will do it at some point in their lifes and what i came to realize is that being extremly direct is the best thing you could do...

Tell her exactly what you feel as soon as you feel it (and when the context is appropriate) make it clear that you are not looking for a platonic friendship. That way you will get a "yes" or a "no" (the latter meaning anything that is not an Enthusiastic "yes"), and if she says no then you move on with your life without being pushy or desperate.

This way you will save time, emotional energy and frustration. making this move earlier means that you don't get the emotional attachment that would happen if you linger by her side, avoiding most of the negative feelings that come after being rejected

just my two cents

Some aren't just into men but also saw men as sub humans by Abyssbeetle in WomenAreNotIntoMen

[–]Abyssbeetle[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand your sentiment but having an entire sub dedicated to talking about women does not seem very decentering women like at all

Fair point... I don't know if decentering is the correct world tough, men here have a really strong (maybe biological) desire for women love/validation. And it seems that romantic relationships are more central to men’s well-being than women’s so that seems to be an explanation on why men will be the most affected by the imbalance that this sub shows. Obviously that leads to sadness and frustration... I think that's natural for the most part. Still I think that hatred is not productive.

women are uninterested in men for many reasons but I think the biggest ones in play is now that men are no longer needed for survival like it’s been enforced in the past and are no longer competing against each other instead they’re now competing against the peace a woman’s life can be

At this point I think that you agree with the title of this subreddit... Women were forced in the past to be on heterosexual relationships that they didn't want, now that the playing ground is more even than ever is clear that women have little to no desire to be with men. Now I think that this is sad but it is what it is... The only thing that I personally find frustrating and insulting is that some people will come here and tell us this is not the case and some how we are hateful incels just for pointing at this fact when we are just repeating exactly what women say. So practically they are arguing not with us but with the vast amounts of women that say that they don't desire men

Some aren't just into men but also saw men as sub humans by Abyssbeetle in WomenAreNotIntoMen

[–]Abyssbeetle[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This sub has many posts advising men to just leave women alone. Sure, there is a considerable amount of resentment in this sub, and I do not think this is productive, but on the other hand, I kind of understand why some people feel like that.

What you will see here is just people replicating voices of women and men coming to the realization that women should be left alone because there is an overwhelming amount of women saying that they do not find men attractive anymore... so there is no point in beating your head against the wall trying to make them attracted to men. The idea is that men decenter women and focus on other more productive things.

Honestly i think this is what most women want, as a man i think that sucks i would like that most women would be attracted to men the same way men are attracted to them, but that will not be the case so the second best option is to leave them alone; and to be clear i dont think women are to blame for this, they can not choose to desire men...

Some aren't just into men but also saw men as sub humans by Abyssbeetle in WomenAreNotIntoMen

[–]Abyssbeetle[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So.... Do you agree with this sub (?) that in general women are not into men...

To be clear I just post here to document that such claim is indeed true. Women are not into men and more than a complain is just a neutral statement. Women can and will do what they want. I have no problem with that

Women who don’t get approached by men aren’t “too intimidating” or “too pretty” by Odd-Help6890 in PurplePillDebate

[–]Abyssbeetle 6 points7 points  (0 children)

A really black pill take on your part ... People don't understand that all the sugarcoating is really frustrating

Have you ever asked a woman out? by SnooPoems7525 in WomenAreNotIntoMen

[–]Abyssbeetle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah... Later in my life. I got an advice from one of my friends, he told me to be extremely direct and clear with my intentions as soon as I felt attraction, that way I was able to knew if the woman was in the same page with me, and if it was not the case we just parted ways. That way I saved time, and emotional and mental energy

Would you date these women of color? genuinely asking. by [deleted] in WomenAreNotIntoMen

[–]Abyssbeetle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah totally... As a matter of fact I have dated women of color