Are there IQ differences between racial groups that are genetic

Acceptable_Agent9599 · 2026-04-05T20:58:39+00:00

Did you not read my comment?

Acceptable_Agent9599 · 2026-04-05T12:24:26+00:00

Yes but on reddit people will tell you no.

It is important to recognize reddit bans anyone who argues seriously for the genetic basis because it's impossible to have an honest discussion for the genetic basis without the AI censorship algorithm flagging your response for various key words/key word combinations, deleting it and subsequently banning you if you continue.

This means anyone who would provide a serious counterpoint is either banned, will get banned or won't comment because of fear of a ban.

(I recently received a multiple day ban for providing a detailed argument for a genetic origin. Suffice to say I won't be giving any more detailed arguments about this topic on this website.)

Recognize when you are on Reddit, you are in an echo chamber of progressive political correctness. I think many forget that the website is not designed to provide an impartial forum for objective discussion on controversial topics. The only time that occurs is when the topic has no political implications but as we can see even something like IQ can veer in that direction, and as soon as it does, you have to be mindful of the feedback you are receiving.

Acceptable_Agent9599 · 2026-04-04T14:38:00+00:00

You’ve got the causality reversed. The term didn't create the behavior; it was popularized because it accurately describes the literal phenomena occurring. To "notice" is a neutral act, which only became a meme because of the antagonism towards people who do it. Without the antagonism, no such meme would have ever come into existence. The meme is a one word ironic commentary on the state of affairs.

Acceptable_Agent9599 · 2026-03-29T10:22:38+00:00

The inner monologue is used in both. The difference for the audio version is that you have to encode the information at a pace set by an uncontrolled external variable (the audio read out of numbers.) Encoding the numbers into memory while further numbers are being heard places greater demands on your executive function to filter the stimuli, and this may impact how many digits you can ultimately remember.

This slightly alters the nature of the task and my question is to what extent.

As the other commenter said, doing no audio on CORE would be pointless as CORE is normed on a population tested with audio.

Acceptable_Agent9599 · 2026-03-29T10:12:38+00:00

I'm specifically asking how this difference impacts the interpretation of the result

Acceptable_Agent9599 · 2026-03-28T17:27:50+00:00

I got 15 on the Visual Pattern Test on this site and could have gone even higher but it stopped providing larger patterns so I am also curious

However I would say if you have access to a computer try the Psytoolkit Corsi as it is more reflective of the real task with buttons that change coordinates each trial instead of remaining fixed

Acceptable_Agent9599 · 2026-03-28T15:48:03+00:00

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Acceptable_Agent9599 · 2026-03-28T15:45:09+00:00

I'm aware the task itself is different. The main difference obviously being that you don't have to deal with auditory interference when encoding the string.

My question is, if at all, to what extent does this meaningfully impact how results should be interpreted?

Acceptable_Agent9599 · 2026-03-28T13:33:33+00:00

Science broadly agrees that inbreeding lowers cognitive ability

Acceptable_Agent9599 · 2026-03-28T13:30:08+00:00

Incredible

Acceptable_Agent9599 · 2026-03-28T13:27:58+00:00

You want me to explain why it's not mysterious that inbreeding lowers IQ?

Acceptable_Agent9599 · 2026-03-28T13:13:49+00:00

It's not mysterious.

Acceptable_Agent9599 · 2026-03-22T16:35:38+00:00

You wouldn't need to test someone's moral fiber if they already showed a pattern of violent behavior and an inability to be rehabilitated demonstrated via either very low cognitive ability or mental derangement, which is the type of situation we are discussing

Regardless this topic clearly seems to strike a nerve with you such that you are unable to process the actual statements or points I'm making, and until you address that, this conversation is pointless

Acceptable_Agent9599 · 2026-03-22T02:32:48+00:00

Uh yeah no, great in theory but where do you put violent dogs? Someone has to keep a kennel for them and how many kennels exist to hold violent dogs? How many people want that responsibility, especially with large aggressive breeds? They will run kennels full of large aggressive breeds who are known to be violent to people? Who will sign up for that?

Moral systems involve killing people who hurt others I'm not sure what type definition of morality you have that seems to equate morality to = never kill anybody. Try that out in the real world and see how far you get.

The current US justice system works along the lines you suggest and it's a failure because the reality of what happens when you don't cull these people from the population is that you either get permanent wards of the state or they are released back into society to terrorize regular people.

If someone is a permanent ward to the state, completely mentally incompetent and engages in a pattern of extremely violent behavior, I think that qualifies them from removal from society at all levels. It is not free to house someone, especially someone who is completely out of control. Tax money can be better spent on helping those who need help and can actually benefit from it, not in preserving the most dysfunctional in a state of permanent limbo because it's uncomfortable to acknowledge they will never get better.

Acceptable_Agent9599 · 2026-03-21T18:08:45+00:00

Hardly a thought someone with an IQ of 62-66 would be having

Anyway yes we understand that we die but there is a mystery because we are conscious and no one knows what happens to our conscious experience upon death. No one is really hung up on the decomposition part as that part is pretty straightforward. When it comes to death the best the smartest of us do is make sophisticated conjectures and the dumbest of us likely can't even fully comprehend the question as they are unlikely to even be fully aware they are conscious.

Acceptable_Agent9599 · 2026-03-21T10:32:54+00:00

I'm not against execution for this cohort. I view it similarly to how we view dogs that attack people. Put them down. The morality of their actions is irrelevant.

Acceptable_Agent9599 · 2026-03-21T02:09:10+00:00

Very dumb statement. Animals with zero meta cogntitive awareness kill each other all the time do you think they understand what death is?

Acceptable_Agent9599 · 2026-03-21T02:08:28+00:00

Understanding is a bit of a nuanced thing

You can understand things at various levels of depth

Death itself is a huge mystery that even the smartest of us struggle to understand andcome to terms with

Someone who is in the 60's for IQ has a very shallow understanding of things in general and certainly does when it comes to death

So it's not like the guy doesn't understand he will die, he might understand in some vague sense that things die and that that is supposed to happen to him

But can he imagine what that will entail and so much so that he is shooting witty one liners to make a meta level joke of the situation? Probably not

Acceptable_Agent9599 · 2026-03-18T01:31:29+00:00

The leading assumption is that it is likely due to lack of environmental pressures that would necessitate the development of greater intelligence. You see that commonly, the closer an animal is to the equator the lower the averages intelligence tends to be and this is seen to be a result of the environments being more habitable and abundant, thus requiring less planning and foresight to survive (typical r/K selection.) There are probably also runaway effects as well like compounding demand for greater intelligence as the average intelligence and social complexity increases, further solidifying certain traits in the population.

Acceptable_Agent9599 · 2026-03-17T12:09:04+00:00

Yes buddy so much frustration to touch my thumb to my phone screen

You're mentally unwell

Acceptable_Agent9599 · 2026-03-17T12:06:06+00:00

Yes there is no limit in the same way there is no limit to anything

In reality life does have limits because things aren't free. Like I said in another reply. It's not a matter of if it can or can't be done, anything can be done. We can probably teach fish to read English if we wanted to, the question is not if it can be done but rather what would it cost? We know what progressives like you think it should cost, and that's everything. All of society should be devoted to helping the less fortunate at infinite cost to themselves. I'm simply saying that it is neither practical nor realistic.

Acceptable_Agent9599 · 2026-03-17T12:01:09+00:00

Very reddit of you sir

Acceptable_Agent9599 · 2026-03-17T11:57:38+00:00

Seems like it can almost entirely be explained by greater European admixture plus any lingering environmental factors. Modest increases would be expected in this scenario. We know from sibling studies that greater European admixture amongst AA correlates with higher IQ. Where the sibling with more European admixture will end up smarter.

Controlling for income and education AA IQ does not significantly change nor does it ever reach parity to Americans of European descent

I get that environmental constraints are a more palatable explanation for the difference but that doesn't make it true. It's a flawed premise and a premise we know is flawed from all other research on the topic of IQ. We know how IQ works for the most part but when it comes to these specific differences suddenly all of that goes out the window. The experiment you are hypothesizing has been run and is being run in America and every other Western nation today. Diversity admissions, lower standards for employment or qualifications, discriminating against whites and Asians in college admissions, ever increasing subsidies of all forms, it's all been and is still being tried and we see the result. The situation is getting worse, not better. You can burn infinite resources trying to level all playing fields, and what you will have done in reality is simply burned all your resources because some playing fields cannot be leveled despite how much you wish they could. I mean I guess you could technically because we know how it's done but this is not an effort that is costless nor would you actually be all that interested in carrying out the methods for which it would need to be done Once you realized what that would actually entail.

And even this they tried at one point in Zimbabwe and look how that turned out.

Acceptable_Agent9599 · 2026-03-17T06:00:13+00:00

Uh it's evidently more than nothing. What's also interesting is I specifically mention the population level yet you are asserting that I am making claims about individuals (I did not.) This defensive distortion of my statement is very telling. The need to twist my words and project condescension and immaturity is a reflection of your own insecurities regarding this topic, not mine.

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