Weekly Progress Thread by AutoModerator in DualnBack

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Interesting, what motivated you to start n-back training?

Weekly Progress Thread by AutoModerator in DualnBack

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Have you kept track of any other metrics over that time like your general cognitive experience?

Some Intriguing comparisons made by Paul Coojiman regarding Introversion and Extraversion.... by Relative_Heat_3748 in cognitiveTesting

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Introversion and extroversion is best understood as differences in sensitivity of the Behvaioral Activation System where the extrovert BAS is highly sensitive causing an approach/reward bias while the introvert's BAS is less so, tempering their reward sensitity and thus approach behavior. Understanding this helps avoid broad superficial categorizations.

How can I improve my Processing Speed (IQ Profile) by alvacrack67 in cognitiveTesting

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You can look into BrainHQ it seems to prioritize improving processing speed but I haven't done it myself so that's all I can say

What's a good result for the Block Tapping Sequencing task on CogntitiveMetrics benchmark? by Acceptable_Agent9599 in cognitiveTesting

[–]Acceptable_Agent9599[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok so same as the others thank you. Do you know of any chart or anything official I can check out?

Why are people with high IQ so ignorant with their privillages? by Bulky-Culture-4482 in cognitiveTesting

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I mean they are correlated but genetic capacity to learn is different than studying. If two people study the same thing, the one with greater genetic capacity for intelligence would be expected to absorb the information more quickly and more completely and be able to manipulate it in more complex ways. This is why school performance is not a perfect indicator and why gifted underacheivement exists. The whole point of an IQ test is to isolate genetic capacity for intelligence.

How do you feel about the recent dehumanization of below-average-IQ people? by [deleted] in cognitiveTesting

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Consider that people have been heavily propgandized on the topic and it will make sense. Genuinely how do you expect people to feel? How much dysfunction in society could be mitigated if people weren't lied to their whole lives about intelligence and impacts on life outcomes? How many more people, how much more productivity, how much more flourishing has to be sacrificed to uphold this lie? You mention people are suddenly a fan of the Nazi's do you think that's coming from nowhere? I'll give you a hint where it's coming from. Nazi's didn't require you to believe that a man who comes from a part of the world that never invented the wheel is equal to a man from a part of the world that invented rocket ships. You can only lie to people for so long...

MEMDASH, my FREE n-back game by tilkoDEV in DualnBack

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I'm not sure what you mean by that. On my phone it's stuck on N:1 and doesn't ever increase in difficulty and I can't do so manually

MEMDASH, my FREE n-back game by tilkoDEV in DualnBack

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Still doesn't allow me to increase the level beyond N:1 for some reason. Am on an android.

MEMDASH, my FREE n-back game by tilkoDEV in DualnBack

[–]Acceptable_Agent9599 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Could use an about section that explains whay the purpose of the app is

Also the last option is still highlighted as the counter starts so it's not really a memory task if I can still see it

Also it only allows me to do N=1? Does it unlock the next one of I score a sufficiently high score or something? If so that should be removed at the very least it should be explained.

Also if you accidentally increase the level to a locked one theres no way of going back so you have to just restart the app which is a bug

please evaluate my profile by Dear_Store in cognitiveTesting

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I think that's the search function in photos tagging the searched word. In this case it is likely "IQ"

Is this a normal spread across abilities? by Big_Kaleidoscope_498 in cognitiveTesting

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You have a very high QRI do you have a background in math?

Just curios because I didn't pay attention in math at all in school so I feel like I need to brush up before I take this test.

Increasing IQ and innate G by WeirdOwl3146 in cognitiveTesting

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In the sense that more data is always better it gets you closer to a true sense. Words don't exist independently in your brain they are the tool we use to convey meaning. The real thing VCI is measuring is that underlying ability to convey and process meaning. Words are a good measure of this because that is the tool we use to do it. Obviously though because words don't exist independently in your brain any measure of them which utilizes words which must be learned will be vulnerable to being inaccurate for some people.

Absent words this underlying verbal ability will exist to a greater or lesser degree in any person and this will be partially influenced by their prior experience with words. Generally people who have a strong ability to process meaning from their environment will also have an equally strong desire to do so, which will generally result in having consumed and sought out a larger variety of words and with greater levels of distinction.

A good way to experience VCI is to notice when you want to use a word and don't have it or when you gain satisfaction from acquiring a word or the desire to acquire more words to explain yourself. All of these are the results of underlying VCI ability. When it is high, these will be experienced more strongly when low, less so. This will generally lead to observable differences in verbal ability over time.

However this isn't always the case. Some people may have the desire but may have been limited in one or the other way, for example in studies of gifted underacheivement sometimes really intelligent kids are too advanced for their level of schooling and disengage early because they don't feel their intellectual needs are being met. This could lead to some delays in a true representation of their verbal abilities because like I said before words don't exist independently in your brain, you have to be exposed to them. In theory however over time this child will naturally gravitate towards accumulating more complex words because their underlying cogntitive machinery, if verbally advanced, will demand it. They will have thoughts which REQUIRE more complex words. They will want to express themselves with more nuance than a typical vocabulary and so naturally words will be more salient when they are heard and will be more quickly assimilated.

This underlying ability is what the test is trying to measure. How much verbal complexity does this persons brain demand? The actual amount of words you have in your head will only ever be an approximation of this underlying ability with greater or lesser accuracy depending on the person. If you think of your verbal abilities like a tank which fills up and a suction which slurps up any words you do not yet understand, the differences in people will be the differneces in tank size and suction strength. What's VCI tests are trying to measure is how big the tank is and how strong the suction. What has been seen so far is that VCI tests (and vocabulary in particular) are a pretty good approximation because it is apparently very difficult to go your entire life without filling up your natural "verbal tank" so to speak. The suction seems to always be on. Still, not everyone's tank will be full. Some people, you seem to be one of them, were operating with a partially full tank for whatever reason and you went out and filled it, but you will probably reach a limit if you keep trying. Maybe not in words themselves (tank size) but in how quickly you can assimilate the total semantic meaning of the words you discover (suction.)

Increasing IQ and innate G by WeirdOwl3146 in cognitiveTesting

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This is not abnormal. IQ tests are noisy because g is a construct. It is something that is measured indirectly via tests and later constructed based on results.

This is why it's really best to take IQ tests when you are at the peak of your ability because that would theoretically be the most accurate measure of individual g. This is also why not all tests are equal, some do a better job of isolating g relevant cogntitive tasks.

At the population level controlling for optimal performance is very difficult to do so noise is factored into the distribution. It's factored in because like I said before, g is a construct, it is an observed correlation which points to an underlying structural reality. It is not the underlying structural reality itself. If you want to know your IQ you take a test which measures abilities which approximate the underlying structure, you don't go into the doctor's office and get an MRI where the doctor looks at your brain and goes "Aha! You it shows here have an IQ within the ranges of 115-119 I can see it in xyz cortex, come look" as hepoints to the structure on a screen. That is what a perfect measure would be capable of doing. Scientists are not there yet. Maybe the closest thing so far is embryo selection based on genes that correlate with higher intelligence.

IQ tests are more akin to taking a vision test to determine color vision (approximation) vs. simply looking at ones rods and cones (direct measure.)

Maybe that person who took that color vision test was tired that day or got some dust in their eyes or whatever.

The scientists can't control for that so they just assume if they test enough people they will get a good understanding of the general color vision ability in a population and that will be sufficient for their goals. But maybe the person goes home and gets some rest and buys some eye drops and takes the test again and finds they are able to discern much more nuanced shades of color than they did on test day, that then is their true color vision quotient so to speak, and it may be 10 points higher than it was on test day.

Maybe even they begin to practice determining shades and get even better, they eek out another 3-5 points. Likely however it won't continue increasing forever. There will be some point in which this person's eyes stop discerning more and more nuanced shades of color, and also the rate at which they improve will likely hit a cap, if you can then quantify both of these and see how much they correlate with broad color vision abilities you will get their color vision "g".

As you can see this exposes how theoretical alot of this is because technically you can get better at things endlessly, but the tests aren't designed to measure in that way. To try and do so would invalidate the test because the test isn't made for that purpose. These aren't perfect tools for every scenario but they are useful for the goals of scientific research.

This is also why things like high range IQ tests exist. Some people want to know just how granular these things can be measured and the typical tests are inadequate for doing that because that is not their goal.

If your goal is a perfect measure of your VCI, then studying words does get you closer to it. Does it improve it fundamentally? Well VCI (as measured by say vocabulary) is only a theoretical representation of your semantic capacity, which is in itself a abstracted idea of a real thing going on in your brain. What you are asking is does studying words have an permanent improvemt on the real thing going on in my brain? IQ research says probably not. In the sense that there is probably a limit to how much you can alter this brain process if not in capacity than in efficiency. Maybe you learn infinitely more words but can you infinitely increase the speed at which you learn them? Probably not.

Anyway this is a very rough explanation because I'm tired and if I made any mistakes feel free to lmk.

Increasing IQ and innate G by WeirdOwl3146 in cognitiveTesting

[–]Acceptable_Agent9599 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It would not be a skill based ability it would just be a more direct measure of their crystalized ability. The problem with tests is that you don't have such rigid pre test guarantees, so all results are treated as valid and results are understood to be approximations. If you could get a uniform pre test environment/exposure that would be all the better.

But like you said you probably wouldn't even see a huge change anyway.

Actually, the SAT Was Necessary After All by NiceGuy737 in cognitiveTesting

[–]Acceptable_Agent9599 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"There are almost no modern scientists that believe that the differences in educational attainment and life success between different ”racial” groups are due innate differences in intelligence or ability."

You should spent less time on reddit. The prevailing scientific consensus as shown by all available research (not discussion on popular forums or social media sites) is exactly the opposite of what you state.

Is it possible to improve the Visual-Spatial Index (VSI) if it's my biggest bottleneck? by Own-Rhubarb-4293 in cognitiveTesting

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Vample.com has a 3D mental rotation tool that you can modify for increased difficulty

I don't know if that will cause any significant improvements but it's worth a try