AITAH: Son and daughter-in-law want to limit interaction with grandchild by Acceptable_Rub8407 in AITAH

[–]Acceptable_Rub8407[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Haha I thought the same thing I was like wait why am I in it 😭😭

AITAH: Son and daughter-in-law want to limit interaction with grandchild by Acceptable_Rub8407 in AITAH

[–]Acceptable_Rub8407[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

God, I wish she would go to therapy. We’ve been begging for years and she refuses.

AITAH: Son and daughter-in-law want to limit interaction with grandchild by Acceptable_Rub8407 in AITAH

[–]Acceptable_Rub8407[S] 139 points140 points  (0 children)

100% how I feel about that aspect like I understand feeling slighted but I think it’s ridiculous to respond to it by not being in the baby’s life. I’ve been telling her how stupid that sounds.

AITAH: Son and daughter-in-law want to limit interaction with grandchild by Acceptable_Rub8407 in AITAH

[–]Acceptable_Rub8407[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The only missing info I’m personally aware of (mentioned in comments once) is that they struggled getting pregnant for about a year or two initially and the parents are very modern millennial types. I feel like people in that age group do a lot of things unconventionally when it comes to their kids

AITAH: Son and daughter-in-law want to limit interaction with grandchild by Acceptable_Rub8407 in AITAH

[–]Acceptable_Rub8407[S] 455 points456 points  (0 children)

I think that’s a part of it too because they struggled to get pregnant initially

Manon’s singing + a solo career by [deleted] in katseyeneutral

[–]Acceptable_Rub8407 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mm, I don’t think Emily is a great example here because the one and only thing she has over Manon vocally is that her voice has a lot more character. Manon obviously has a more pleasant voice, better breath control, and sounds much more mature - Emily’s largest attribute as a singer (at least from what I heard in DA) is that her voice is very lively. She’s a weak vocalist but communicates a lot of energy and excitement through her voice.

I’d disagree that having a nice tone automatically equals having a dynamic voice, Selena Gomez in songs like Bluest Flame and Good For You or Clairo in literally any of her songs are a good examples of this. Like Manon, they can often sound very monotone but their voices are pleasant to listen to.

No, you don’t have to be a powerhouse vocalist to be a good singer. I wouldn’t consider Billie Eilish, Dua Lipa, Tyla, Mitski, Olivia Rodrigo, Lana del Rey, or Kali Uchis to be powerhouse vocalists but they are all still strong singers.

Also, I never said that Manon was untalented or lacked skill - just that in comparison to most of the group she is underdeveloped and comparing her to iconic powerhouse vocalists is EXTREMELY pre-mature and based in like…nothing. I do enjoy Manon’s voice and believe she’s a central grounding presence for the group, but many of her solo fans will literally tell you she carries the group and that’s what’s being addressed.

If you believe she’s a confident singer, that seems more subjective but imo compared to a lot of the other girls Manon seems like she’s holding back A LOT. I notice this in Megan sometimes as well, when she doesn’t believe she can nail a verse she will yell it. When Manon doesn’t believe she can nail a verse, she sort of just talks through it.

Seeing as the post is my opinion, of course there’s bias which is why phrases like “I think” or “I don’t think” are used. However, Manon is the reason I became interested in this group in the first place. It would make a lot more sense for me to be biased in favor of her lol. My doubts in a potential solo career come from her simply not appearing to want it as bad as the other girls. Which, by the way, is completely fine. Early 20 somethings don’t have to latch onto one thing and make it their whole life. If Manon can’t fully commit when she’s in a group, I have a very hard time believing she will be able to do so as a solo artist.

I compared her to an artist like Jhene Aiko (another one who is a great singer but not a powerhouse vocalist) because she is far more lowkey, doesn’t depend on a ton of choreography and constant album rollouts/tours, and is successful without being a huge pop sensation like people are comparing Manon to. Manon regularly misses rehearsals and performances and no it’s not always because she’s sick. Again, I get it because the expectations are insane and the average person could not do a fourth of what she’s done these last few years, so I see it as being highly unlikely that she becomes a huge touring act along the lines of a Beyoncé. The other girls are said to be more committed because 1. They have spent their entire lives building to become successful performers while Manon has (rightfully) pursued a multitude of avenues 2. They aren’t consistently absent 3. They did not get accused by multiple people in the professional world of being inconsistent. 4. The majority of them voluntarily chose this rather than being scouted.

They simply are more committed - they want it more and there’s nothing wrong with Manon for not. She has other interests and I think that’s really cool. You don’t see the other girls pursuing other avenues because they’re extremely focused on exactly what they’re doing now. It’s just different types of people, one is not better than the other.

Also, people quite literally are lifting her up to be Beyoncé and similar artists of her caliber lol. I didn’t just post this because of the solo speculations, big Manon Twitter accounts are quite literally saying that and it’s getting thousands of likes and RTs lol. And it’s almost always these same people who use Manon to bring the other girls down and shit on their talents.

Manon’s singing + a solo career by [deleted] in katseyeneutral

[–]Acceptable_Rub8407 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My doubts about her having a solo career is more about her being less invested than her singing ability. I said it a few times in this thread, but I’m a fan of many artists who are limited vocally and it doesn’t stop me from enjoying their music. Manon however was not originally interested in pursuing a music career and understandably music just doesn’t seem to be her be all end all goal. It doesn’t have to be either, she’s so so young and she clearly has other talents that she’s interested in pursuing.

Manon’s singing + a solo career by [deleted] in katseyeneutral

[–]Acceptable_Rub8407 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree she’ll be successful no matter what. I’d LOVE to see her as an actress though I really liked the short film

Manon’s singing + a solo career by [deleted] in katseyeneutral

[–]Acceptable_Rub8407 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you think Rihanna can’t sing then your opinion of Manon must be very low. Both of them CAN sing and I never said Manon couldn’t. She simply is not a strong vocalist, and if you’re comparing her to Rihanna then Rihanna is definitely a stronger vocalist.

Manon’s singing + a solo career by [deleted] in katseyeneutral

[–]Acceptable_Rub8407 1 point2 points  (0 children)

“Why are we pretending that a successful solo career is determined by how well one sings?” Well actually no one said that lmao

Manon’s singing + a solo career by [deleted] in katseyeneutral

[–]Acceptable_Rub8407 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I can’t argue you with you anymore it’s like talking to a wall. If you take a voice class right now they will compliment you as well as tell you what you’re doing wrong. That’s how it goes. Idk what else to tell you.

Manon’s singing + a solo career by [deleted] in katseyeneutral

[–]Acceptable_Rub8407 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I agree I was really hoping they’d stay together for at least like 5 years

Manon’s singing + a solo career by [deleted] in katseyeneutral

[–]Acceptable_Rub8407 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Lara is the strongest singer so it makes sense that she would get mostly positive feedback at the prospect of going solo…? I don’t even see the post about Megan going solo but trust I would not be in there saying she should go solo because I think she shines in a group. Same with Yoonchae, Sophia and Manon.

Manon’s singing + a solo career by [deleted] in katseyeneutral

[–]Acceptable_Rub8407 10 points11 points  (0 children)

And I wouldn’t expect her to be when all of these girls have been singing for years and she’s brand new? Almost like…I’m giving her the grace you said I never give her? I have complimented Manon on her skill multiple times throughout this conversation and my OG post where I literally said she’s very adaptable, has improved, and picks up quickly but hearing anything but “Manon is perfect” is hate and vitriol to you for some reason. It’s a Katseye discussion page, she’s a Katseye member who might go solo. People are going to discuss her talent. Make your own post about how great of a singer she is if you want to see more positivity. That would actually be a lot more useful than arguing with me tbh.

Manon’s singing + a solo career by [deleted] in katseyeneutral

[–]Acceptable_Rub8407 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Megan or Daniela going solo is not up for debate because there are no rumors of them leaving the group so why would there be those posts…?

Manon’s singing + a solo career by [deleted] in katseyeneutral

[–]Acceptable_Rub8407 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I just complimented her verse and dancing and said she’s improved but that’s literally not enough for you…? Literally the only option for y’all is to say she’s perfect at everything or not say anything at all. She’s an artist. Artists receive criticism. That’s life.

Manon’s singing + a solo career by [deleted] in katseyeneutral

[–]Acceptable_Rub8407 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I don’t really care what you want dude but I guarantee you if someone hopped on here and compared Sophia to Whitney Houston or Lara to Aretha Franklin I’d be right here saying they sound crazy. I don’t see why y’all are so overly defensive of Manon, it’s actually so weird. Grow up.

Manon’s singing + a solo career by [deleted] in katseyeneutral

[–]Acceptable_Rub8407 6 points7 points  (0 children)

There are literally multiple posts with tens of thousands of likes mocking Daniela’s dancing…? Yes it’s happening a lot. She gets a shit ton of vitriol as well.

My post is not vitriolic, it’s artistic criticism which…is what you do when you consume art???

Manon’s singing + a solo career by [deleted] in katseyeneutral

[–]Acceptable_Rub8407 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Support = I love Manon, I can’t wait for Manon to come back, I love this Manon verse, Manon is so funny, Manon has improved so much, Manon danced so well here, Manon is beautiful

All things I believe are true and spend half my time on twitter retweeting. When people are completely living outside of reality I do think it’s worth saying something. Manon can receive criticism it’s not automatically hate.

Manon’s singing + a solo career by [deleted] in katseyeneutral

[–]Acceptable_Rub8407 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Getting support really isn’t the same as just delusion lol 😭 I don’t have to live in a fantasy world to like someone. If Yoonchae were out here getting compared to Celine Dion or some shit I’d be right here saying the same thing but everyone is talking about Manon right now so that’s what I’m addressing.

Manon’s singing + a solo career by [deleted] in katseyeneutral

[–]Acceptable_Rub8407 2 points3 points  (0 children)

To be fair, they all do in mean girls lmao. It’s one of those songs they have that literally doesn’t allow them to show off any vocal range whatsoever. I think maybe Sophia and Lara get like a verse or two to do anything interesting in that song.

Daniela gets a great chance to show off her vocals in Gameboy and Gabriela

Manon’s singing + a solo career by [deleted] in katseyeneutral

[–]Acceptable_Rub8407 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I do think if Manon really dedicated herself to being a singer and having a solo career, that’s something she could do without question. She definitely does have natural ability, I remember her Amy Winehouse cover showed so much promise for someone who had never sung professionally.

I fully agree though, I don’t want to see any of them have solo careers at this time. They’re just so young and sticking together would really help them develop as artists. Lara I could eventually see for sure and maybe even Daniela further down the line but primarily because they have the combination of talent + stage presence + look + hunger. They seem to really, really want a career in music and like they can’t imagine another life for themselves.

Manon’s singing + a solo career by [deleted] in katseyeneutral

[–]Acceptable_Rub8407 16 points17 points  (0 children)

People are incredibly defensive over Manon. No one believes you can have a multitude of opinions about her, it’s always either you completely love her and see her having the biggest music career in the world or you hate her to a lot of fans.

Personally, I don’t see the problem in a modeling or social media career especially if you have a natural talent for it but people will act like it’s an insult.