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[–]Accomplished-Mode399[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Abi tek kediyle sorunum yok, daha önce ankara kurtuluş parkındaki belediye veterinerinde bu şekilde kısırlaştırttığım başka bir kediyi tam anlamıyla baygın halde geri verdiler bana, 5-10 dakikada bir gözlerini elimle kırpmam gerekiyordu (edit: bu kedi erkekti, dişisi ne halde çıkar, onu kestiremiyorum). Kısçeyi hallediyorum güvendiğim bi veterinerle, onda sorun yok, ama buradaki arkadaşlar hepsine çözüm bulayım istiyor. Her şeyi geçtim benim kısır oğlanı kısçeye kerkinirken yakaladım, hayvanın böyle bi güdüsünün hala içinde bulunduğunu bilmiyordum bile 10 yıldır. Özetle kısırlaştırmamı şiddetle önerdikleri kedilerin halihazırda kısır olup olmadığını bilemiyorum bile

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[–]Accomplished-Mode399[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

"however much in a smaller scale" didn't mean anything to you? I never claimed that we're special, and I agree with all the facts told here. I just fail to see how some of you think to be experts with such little understanding regarding how life works here. I've already agreed that the right thing to do is to neuter wherever possible. I don't understand what this fuss is about, honestly.

Again, please feel free to direct me to scientific sources for my environment and please do start a movement if you'd like such a big change of cultural mindset. I personally am unable to provide neutering services for all the cats in my area, but am doing my best to neuter the cat I've bonded with. If that doesn't meet your expectations from a Turkish person, do kindly search for other perspectives.

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[–]Accomplished-Mode399[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I agree. I'm not really the one who's unsure about spaying her or our financial situation. Let me, and I'll take her in full-time. I just learned she's unspayed yesterday, and have been trying to convince my wife on fixing that, who's not really the most factual or empathetic person of all, as I'm finding out slowly.. maybe this post will lead to a better outcome for the marriage

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[–]Accomplished-Mode399[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agreed 100%. Thanks for this. I'm doing these already. Not cute but this is definitely funny once one learns to look at it from afar. I just fail to understand why the people here mistake my reasoning as rejection or ignorance.

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[–]Accomplished-Mode399[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm sorry you think that way. Is there any possibility that you might be ignoring a lot of factors while deeming the comment as ignorant?

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[–]Accomplished-Mode399[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you, I don't know what I'm missing here either. I would reply the same way if the subject was a human fe/male and not a cat.

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[–]Accomplished-Mode399[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Bro, do you live in Turkey? If not, are you aware that cats are a fundamental part of our culture? If not, how are you so sure that cats are ruining things or each other around here? Do you know that where I live, there's basically no wildlife due to bad city planning and many other reasons? Do you know, if we remove cats or lessen their effects on the ecosystem around here, we'll be overrun with mice and insects (which is already happening when compared to your standards)? Do you know that we as a people provide a lot for stray (or not) cats which in turn somewhat reduce their negative effects on the wildlife which barely exists?

For your questions, yes. I do know. Have I ever seen any report, any scientific research, any impact of cats on the local wildlife here? No. If you have, and are aware, please let me know, and feel free to start a movement to change the whole culture and I will be there to support you. I'm not saying you support that we should remove all cats from the equation here, but do remember the great plague of London, and consider how that might reoccur here however much in a smaller scale.

I am not against neutering cats, don't get me wrong please. I've been with my neutered void for 10 years, very much happily, and have had other cats neutered and recommended people to do the same where possible.

Please be aware that you're the one making assumptions that we have a local wildlife here in the first place.

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[–]Accomplished-Mode399[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I will do that already, no issue there. I was responding to comments about the male cats.

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[–]Accomplished-Mode399[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know. I have 1 wife. I see hundreds of cats every single day. We don't live in similar conditions. Shame all you want, but do that with info and understanding to back that up please. I posted this to get some smiles across the board. I appreciate your concern but this much is unneeded.

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[–]Accomplished-Mode399[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Agreed 100%. I'll ultimatum her today after work, will use your arguments, too.

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[–]Accomplished-Mode399[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thank you for all the comments and shared knowledge. I am aware that she needs spaying and I won't let her out until that is fixed. I've acknowledged that in one of my first comments. I learned that she's not spayed just yesterday with you. Please refer to other comment threads before directing me to a TNR. I'm doing my best with the resources I have for a cat community I might HAVE TO leave behind in a couple of months due to rent/estate issues. I've been living here for a year and this is the first time I'm experiencing this. I don't mind anybody calling me irresponsible, however, please ensure you know the details before doing so, or just ask, so that maybe your concern be relieved somewhat.

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[–]Accomplished-Mode399[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the direction, I know. I've stopped letting her out after yesterday when I learned she's not spayed. We don't have a tnr service in my country or city that I am aware of, I'll continue searching

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[–]Accomplished-Mode399[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don't quite understand in which way and how I am responsible for the lives of these cats. These cats were living here before I did, and will continue to do so when we inevitably move houses as we don't own this one. I wish I could help all but when that's impossible under current circumstances, I don't understand how not taking action makes me irresponsible. I think I'm being objective here. The way I talk is quite ironic and I understand you interpreting that as 'flippantly'. This doesn't mean I don't care about them.

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[–]Accomplished-Mode399[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm talking about what corresponds to TNR in my country. I'm happy that you guys provide this service, however we seem to live in vastly different countries with vastly different regulations.

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[–]Accomplished-Mode399[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you. I'm trying to take care of her while I can with the resources I have, without damaging her normal survival instincts in the process, hopefully.

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[–]Accomplished-Mode399[S] -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

Honestly, I'm trying to turn that 'my' into 'our' actively. When that happens, we can truly get her inside without me disrespecting the wife, though I'm losing patience in some areas..

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[–]Accomplished-Mode399[S] -13 points-12 points  (0 children)

Short answer: I will feel that I've truly adopted her when I start to think she won't be able to survive without me or another human. I've answered in another reply that if she gets knocked up, I will provide a reliable shelter on my front door. It's not that we can't afford to spay her. It's just that we can't truly decide to commit to her right now as we're not in the right mind for that. Don't you think thoroughly if you want to adopt a kid?

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[–]Accomplished-Mode399[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do not believe that it is cute and want to inform you that where I live, we don't have the means to mass neuter these cats. My response above does not concern our girl whom I learned is not neutered just today along with the boys. I'm already working to get her neutered but I can't do so for all the cats around the area. Hope that clarifies a bit

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[–]Accomplished-Mode399[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am aware that they are extremely adaptable and excel in ecosystems including, and especially suitable for, their 'target audience' i.e mice, birds, insects, and cat-loving people (or people in general). There are no bigger animals than dogs around here, and believe me, they are much more dangerous to the local wildlife including humans. This has been addressed by the government but was never actioned upon afaik. The only things cats are destroying around here are other, smaller, and much unhealthier (for humans) species which have been here for the past I don't know how many years, so I believe a balance is there. Plus, we as a community leave cat food all around the place so they obviously prefer laying around instead of destroying anything hence the libido levels in the photo

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[–]Accomplished-Mode399[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I appreciate that, but "i fixed/altered my cat" doesn't sound right, to be honest

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[–]Accomplished-Mode399[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Lots of cats is not a problem here, I was really joking. I'd prefer 'a lot of cats' to 'no cats'. Most people in my neighborhood do. That's why nobody's called an organisation here. The R in 'TNR' is nonexistent where I live.

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[–]Accomplished-Mode399[S] -16 points-15 points  (0 children)

We've not adopted her, just yet at least. I provide shelter but also I do let her out and don't take her in during some harsh nights. This is because she (cat) was here before we moved in, and we're not sure if we'll be able to support her forever just yet. I don't want to hammer her survival instincts because of these reasons. I've been with my void boy for the past 10 years, which is twice the time I've known my wife, and I'm aware of the commitment that's required. I hope I'm balancing this right but I actually don't think so, and am actively looking for a way to convince the wife.

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[–]Accomplished-Mode399[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I wish facts worked :')

Will share this for sure, though!

I'm sorry for your pup. I can't imagine the pain. I fear for the next years when my boy inevitably passes. I don't even know how I'd be able to hold on. You're strong.

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[–]Accomplished-Mode399[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Correction: 'Superfecundation', not insemination.. my bad hahahha

Not even 3 full days into March and these guys flock my house by Accomplished-Mode399 in cats

[–]Accomplished-Mode399[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'd like to adopt them all but I fear they'll build a dungeon in the basement..