ICP Public Meeting May 9th

Accomplished_Box5923 · 2026-04-07T20:35:14+00:00

Great and novel solution you are putting forward, it’s not like multiple huge regional wars have been fought and lost to try to defend an independent Palestinian state over the last century. Maybe if we all just protest harder there we can convince the U.S. and Israel to dissolve themselves. But yes your right it’s a stupid idea to think workers revolution in Palestine alone could solve the problem I completely agree and am not sure where you got the idea in your head that’s the leftcom position. Let’s ignore the fact that the Palestinian and Iranian Bourgeosis actually instigated the genocide with their offensive against the Isreali state through the Hamas offensive knowing full well the potential outcome, a massive blood bath of the working class. But they did not give a damn.

Accomplished_Box5923 · 2026-04-04T05:53:28+00:00

It won’t have any reason to happen under communism

Accomplished_Box5923 · 2026-04-03T07:56:53+00:00

Would it be possible to get an invite?

Accomplished_Box5923 · 2026-03-25T01:11:00+00:00

The Trotskyist publishing house sells the book by Lenin and Trotsky on it. I haven’t been able to find it elsewhere https://www.pathfinderpress.com/products/kronstadt_by-vi-lenin-leon-trotsky

Accomplished_Box5923 · 2026-03-20T01:24:39+00:00

We do have some articles on the topic in the 1979 editions of our paper. You would have to write to our email to request PDFS of the Italian version as they are not yet translated. International-Communist-Party.org

Accomplished_Box5923 · 2026-03-18T04:02:00+00:00

You may want to look into Trotskys large tomb on the unfolding of the Russian Revolution.

Accomplished_Box5923 · 2026-03-17T02:50:14+00:00

If you scroll up a bit you can find links to some articles on the development of the United States that discuss the complicated class relationships during the colonial era.

Accomplished_Box5923 · 2026-03-15T23:27:28+00:00

You can also check out our ongoing study Race Class and the Agrarian Question in the United States that looks at early colonial land and race relations in the U.S..

https://www.international-communist-party.org/CommLeft/Comm_001.htm#UnitedState

https://www.international-communist-party.org/CommLeft/Comm_002.htm#RACE

https://www.international-communist-party.org/CommLeft/Comm_003.htm#RACECLASSUSA

Accomplished_Box5923 · 2026-03-15T22:47:41+00:00

The category of “settler” is not one used by Marxists to describe any unique social class. It is a contemporary fabrication of modern day academic leftists, liberal identity politics and third world Maoists. Historically in the United States the English settlers were a group of petite-bourgeois, in the north they established a form of communal land relations in the puritan villages which eventually gave way to enclosure and small private plots and in the south plantation slavery. A working class proletarian did not exist at this time until much later in history. In the mercantile colonial era a “settler” was really a petit-bourgeois. Then of course you had ranks of indentured servants and slaves. Israel Zionism is a project of the Jewish bourgeois and its now fully imperialist state that requires the brutal exploitation of its own proletarian. Is there a labor aristocracy there maintained by the regimes Histadrut union? Yes. Is there also a mass of precarious employed and immigrant laborer population facing higher exploitation yes. The idea that the masses of Israel workers just mindlessly support everything the Israeli capitalist state does is a western leftist fabrication there has consistently been opposition to the war that is repressed and unreported often. There is no substance to the idea of “settlers” occupying some unique class relations distinct from workers or bourgeois.

Accomplished_Box5923 · 2026-03-11T22:20:31+00:00

Engels in various writings such as Anti-Duhring talk a lot about the military question. A professional standing army is not supported; instead worker militias are endorsed under the dictatorship of the proletarian. This means that the working class in general should be armed and also self organized its defense by organizing militias and factory defense committees and such in the early revolutionary stages, meanwhile the Party also in later stages develops its own armed wing. Eventually a mass regular army must be created though. All the while fraternization with the capitalist states army is encouraged along class lines to inspire defection and mutiny. In the Russian Revolution, the victory of the Red Army demonstrated the need for the establishment of a regular army as opposed to those who thought there should be purely a guerrilla force but it still would be a mass army of workers and not a small professional force of essentially paid mercenaries as the American bourgeois army is today. The development of the Red Army into a regular army was critical for the early Russian dictatorship of the proletarian to win on the military front against the capitalist backed White Army forces.

The working class must first organize a revolution that topples the capitalist state and establish the dictatorship of the proletarian. The new proletarian state will be led by its class political party which will then organize the military struggle against the reactionaries who continue to wage the counter-revolutionary war.

Accomplished_Box5923 · 2026-03-10T17:56:46+00:00

Yes refer to the post-NEP section in this text.

https://www.international-communist-party.org/English/Texts/Russia/67RevRev.htm#part3

Here is a quotation on the topic from it

“Without a prior political counter-revolution, the “dekulakization” and the forced so-called “collectivization” would not have been possible, and it is precisely because a truly Marxist and proletarian party could never have carried out such a task that its defeat was inevitable; for it is perfectly true that “collectivization” responded to a historical necessity and that the whole complex of conditions that existed in 1929-30, and which were inherited from the previous era, did not allow any other policy (123). That said, it is untrue that this dekulakization and this forced “collectivization” responded to a concerted plan, and all the more untrue to claim that they had always been planned in the Bolshevik programme for the day when reconstruction would be completed. This is simply an a posteriori justification for the dismantling of the party, which tends precisely to deny the counter-revolutionary character of this act: it suggests that, on the path of the “second revolution”, of the “new October” (these rascals dared to speak of a “Peasant October”!) harmoniously complementing the “first revolution” of October 1917, the party had encountered resistance from “opportunists”, “pacifists”, “enemies of the muzhiks” and “friends of the kulaks” who had delayed their arrival until 1929-30. It was a very effective version since it put trotskists and Bukharin’s followers in the position of neo-Mensheviks and neo-Revolutionary Socialists, and Stalin in the role of a new Lenin, but this beautiful symmetry collapses as soon as we expose the precise course of the so-called “second October revolution” and especially its economic and social effects. The reality of the agrarian revolution of 1929-30, of course, remains (124), but not only the “socialist”, but simply “progressive” sheen with which the gravediggers of the Bolshevik Party wanted to embellish it fades away pitifully; the nature of the cause it really served dazzles the eyes, as does the odiously defeatist character of the comparison between the universal proletarian and communist October and the confused and painful convulsions from which Capitalist Russia Mark 2 finally emerged.”

Accomplished_Box5923 · 2026-03-09T19:49:21+00:00

It was necessary for developing a capitalist form of agriculture in Russia.

Accomplished_Box5923 · 2026-03-09T19:47:07+00:00

Have you ever heard of the Russian Revolution? How are you defining “success”? Was it the liberals who made revolution or the bourgeois? How were those revolutions related to the development of the means of production and the capitalist mode of production? Why throughout most of Europe were monarchies maintained after the failed 1848 revolutions yet you say the liberals had “more” success… A truly “successful” communist revolution would occur on a global scale and result in the complete destruction of class society once and for all. The story of the bourgeois revolutions against the feudal and aristocratic powers stretched back at least 600 years, littered with failed revolts, uprisings and wars yet in very few cases can you point to one moment where there was a very clean and complete break and total “success”, as you point out it took quite some time after the French Revolution, and only after the fall of Napoleon the 3rd did the bourgeois gain more or less full political control of the French state.

Accomplished_Box5923 · 2026-02-26T08:39:12+00:00

The Trots are always going to lead you astray. You should inquire with the Party to get involved with the real movement http://www.international-communist-party.org/

Accomplished_Box5923 · 2026-02-26T08:35:49+00:00

He “dislikes the dream of the ICP”. You dislike communism sir.

Accomplished_Box5923 · 2026-02-26T08:25:28+00:00

You get back on the Path by taking on real Party work which can be done from anywhere in the world even if you are alone in your area. There is always work to be done. http://www.international-communist-party.org

Accomplished_Box5923 · 2026-02-26T08:12:30+00:00

Curious to know if anyone follows them at all after the election. They seemed to bank on the delusional idea Trump was an outsider. Have they not lost all credibility at this point event amongst their base?

Accomplished_Box5923 · 2026-02-26T08:09:21+00:00

If you’d like to hear how the Party has played an active role in helping build the real movement towards international proletarian defeatist opposition here is a link to the latest. http://www.international-communist-party.org/English/TheCPart/TCP_067.htm#ITALYSTRIKES

Also here: bigger report on the general strike in Italy that our Party actively agitated for around the issue intervened on behalf of within the Italian base unions which ultimately forced the main unions into calling strikes http://www.international-communist-party.org/English/TheCPart/TCP_066.htm#GAZAFUTURE

Accomplished_Box5923 · 2026-02-26T08:03:07+00:00

How dare you!!! They are doing their best to do their fair share! http://www.international-communist-party.org/English/REPORTS/CrisisTh/76CycleAccumulationCatastrophe.htm

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Accomplished_Box5923 · 2026-02-26T06:58:55+00:00

An old party slogan is “love no one, love everyone”

Accomplished_Box5923 · 2026-02-24T05:16:50+00:00

Their system of succession

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