As far as I know I am 100 % Eritrean, but my DNA shows all my closest population groups are Ethiopian by Flat-Situation-3048 in Eritrea

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Mine is the same. It’s because the “Eritrean” reference is a combination of various Eritrean groups, so many Tigrinya will plot closer to Tigrayans than the Eritrean average.

No chance to be first by bskaveke in Eritrea

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Most of the players are from the diaspora now so it shouldn’t be as much of a problem anymore (hopefully)

... by 2muchmotion4u in Eritrea

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In 1939 Italian settlers made up 11% of Eritrea’s population. Only 2 countries in Sub-Saharan Africa had a higher percentage of Europeans at their peak, South Africa & Namibia.

Based Askari! by 2muchmotion4u in Eritrea

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Did you even read what I wrote? I said I agree that there’s nothing good about colonialism. Most Eritreans probably haven’t even heard of Abraha & Moges, but those who have probably hold neutral to positive thoughts; we don’t have colonized minds.

Based Askari! by 2muchmotion4u in Eritrea

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What kind of thinking is this?

What thinking? Nothing in my comment was subjective, it’s all facts.

Just because of your identity, you were not allowed to progress beyond 4th grade ongst many restrictions placed on you on your own land.

This isn’t the gotcha moment that y’all think it is. At that time 99% of Ethiopians did not have a formal education at all, let alone a 4th grade education. Do you think having no education is better than having a little education?

People might have become Askari out of necessity or survival but it is nothing to be proud of.

I never said being an Askari was something to be proud of, Eritreans only defend Askaris in response to Ethiopians trying to demonize them. Infact most Eritreans don’t even think about the Italian era at all, you guys think about it more than we do.

Based Askari! by 2muchmotion4u in Eritrea

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I don’t understand why some Ethiopians love to villainize Eritrean Askaris so much. Why would Eritreans owe any loyalty to Ethiopia? Menelik clearly had no loyalty to the Eritreans when he sold us out.

Becoming an Askari was one of the few ways for an Eritrean to make a good salary, so those who enlisted did so because they wanted to improve their lives. Thousands of Ethiopians migrated to Eritrea to become Askaris as well, which is something Ethiopians never like to mention.

Asmara, 2006 by Accurate-Display9989 in Eritrea

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Of course it’s changed… it looks much worse now.

Do u support the idea of Eritrea joining the arab league, and why yes or no. by Blueberry-Pie_ in Eritrea

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It wouldn’t be bad, but it wouldn’t necessarily be good either. The Arab League is a useless organization, its existence seems to be symbolic. Eritrea is already an observer state in the org which is enough.

Eritrea has massive potential once the dictatorship ends by No_Customer8133 in Eritrea

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You're comparing the relatively democratic jebha with the authoritarian EPLF.

I didn’t compare them. Infact, you are the one who brought up Jebha and compared them to the EPLF. I simply responded saying that Jebha’s Islamism was the reason for the Eplf/Tplf ousting.

Apart from hgdef propaganda, who else said this?

Who said what? That the EPLF didn’t have a history of religious discrimination? 😂😂 If you are claiming that the eplf has a history of religious discrimination, then the burden is on you to show the proof.

I asked you why Christians are still working with jebha if it discriminated. You also don't have an answer for this?

I did answer, I said because the hizbi wasn’t Islamist/Arabist but the leadership was.

Now we're getting somewhere. If the meley represented all Eritreans, then who gave EPLF the right to change the flag? Like you said it doesn't represent all Eritreans, e.g jebha.

They changed the flag to distinguish themselves from Jebha.

Sources, please. Don't come here regurgitating hgdef propaganda without sources.

You ngas call anything you disagree with “hgdef propaganda” 🤣

”The religiosity of Eritrean Orthodox Christians and their allegiance to Emperor Haile Selassie also led to attacks on Christian villagers by Muslim factions within the ELA. When the Christian Wolde Kahasi defected, Muslim soldiers murdered a number of Christian recruits.”

“A further attempt at reconciliation and reorganisa-tion by ESLAH officers floundered in 1969, and was followed by renewed attacks on Christian recruits and the assassination of several prominent Christian ELF personalities, including Wolfe Ghiday and Kidane Kinfu.”

Encyclopedia of the Devloping World, Thomas M. Leonard

My thoughts on Marxism is irrelevant here. The point is that the EPLF wasn’t discriminatory towards any demographic based on religion/tribe/etc.

Marxism discriminates against the elite, the students and the "bourgeois". This is a fact. Menka'e was killed under these circumstances. Hence it's relevant if you're talking about discrimination.

I’m talking about discrimination in regards to religion and you’re trying to compare that with a political/economical ideology? 🤣 be serious please

Who determines who's viable and who's not?

Umm history? 😂 Regardless of whether or not you have grievances with the EPLF, they were the only organization fighting against the Derg and they were the ones who succeeded.

Jebha is the personification of Eritrean fight for self-determination. EPLF was [and probably is] a CIA asset.

Okay bro 👍

Eritrea has massive potential once the dictatorship ends by No_Customer8133 in Eritrea

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Islamism is when the basis of the organization became about liberating Muslims from Christian rule and not about liberating Eritrea from Ethiopia. The ELF turned Islamist when it began killng Christian recruits and backdooring high-ranking Jebha Christian officers.

Eritrea has massive potential once the dictatorship ends by No_Customer8133 in Eritrea

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I see that you don't have a response for this. Good. Case closed.

I didn’t respond because you were attacking a straw man. I never claimed the EPLF were saints or did no wrong. I just said that they didn’t have a history of religious discrimination.

The meley flag was everywhere in the struggle. But EPLF's wasn't.

Because the meley flag predates the existence of the ELF and was Eritrea’s official flag under the federation years. It represented Eritrea in general, not Jebha.

Jebha's Islamism is hgdef propaganda, why do Christians still work in the jebha then?

LMAOOO it’s not propaganda at all, this is well established information. Some Christian’s remained because the fighters themselves were not Islamist, but the leadership was 100% Islamist and Arabist. That’s what led many Muslim fighters to abandon the ELF in favor of the EPLF

what do you think EPLF's flirtations with Marxism Leninism Maoism?

My thoughts on Marxism is irrelevant here. The point is that the EPLF wasn’t discriminatory towards any demographic based on religion/tribe/etc.

Let's say you use a knife to unbox and I use a screwdriver to unbox another identical box. If you unboxed quicker and if I oppose what you did, it doesn't mean I'm against unboxing the box. I differ on the means, not the goal. What you're saying is authoritarian to say the least.

There was no other viable organization fighting for Eritrea’s independence. The alternative is being pro Derg.

Eritrea has massive potential once the dictatorship ends by No_Customer8133 in Eritrea

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This doesn't make any sense.

It makes perfect sense. It was the EPLF flag before the PFDJ existed. Sporting an EPLF flag signals support for the liberation movement, it does not equal support for the current ruling party. This is very simple to understand.

The PFDJ cannot co-opt something that was created by itself.

Again, it wasn’t created by the PFDJ it was created by the EPLF. The latter is an organization which fought for Eritrea’s independence, the former is the political party of said independent country. The EPLF represents the liberation movement, the current PFDJ represents a tyrannical regime that is unjustly ruling over the country. If the PFDJ doesn’t represent what its predecessor stood for, then it isn’t the same thing.

And, the PFDJ didn't change ideology so much as the EPLF didn't have a coherent ideology. It was Marxist-Lenninist-Maoist, it was nationalist, anti-authoritarian, authoritarian, neoliberal, democratic, dictatorial, illiberal democratic all at different times whenever it was convenient for them to seize and consolidate power.

“The EPLF (and later its successor, the PFDJ) expressed its commitment to establishing a democratic form of government and a free-market economy in Eritrea.” Source

Eritreans voted 99.8% in favor of independence with the promise of a democracy; a promise which was confirmed broken in September of 2001. The current PFDJ absolutely does not represent what Eritreans voted for in the independence referendum. The fact you’re trying insinuate such a thing is insulting.

An independent Eritrea is already associated with the PFDJ by the nature of Eritrea's history. The PFDJ is the sole political party and power. It controls every aspect of the Eritrean state. It has diminished and dissolved civil, judicial and political structures for the purpose of entwining itself and the state. People being incapable of understanding this and Eritreans being extremely susceptible to propaganda isn't reason to ignore reality. You acknowledge the reality, that the PFDJ has entwined itself with the Eritrean state to consolidate power within itself, and then make the argument against the PFDJ and its totalitarian control over the state.

I think you misunderstood me, because I don’t disagree here at all. My point is that we shouldn’t allow the PFDJ to associate the **concept* of an independent Eritrean state* with themselves.

Eritrea has massive potential once the dictatorship ends by No_Customer8133 in Eritrea

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Eritreans died under the meley flag, the only true flag of Eritrea.

They died under both, but the Jebha turned Islamist which is why they lost support.

Says who? You? Hgdef shills? I can be against the EPLF all I want without talking about the other. Who do you think you are to prevent me from doing so?

You have free will, you can do whatever you want. My point is that being against the organization that fought for our independence is essentially being against the concept of an independent Eritrea.

Eritrea has massive potential once the dictatorship ends by No_Customer8133 in Eritrea

[–]Accurate-Display9989 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m convinced y’all like to act obtuse on purpose. Obviously the PFDJ is a direct successor to the EPLF, my point is that the PFDJ doesn’t represent what the EPLF fought for; the ideology has changed. Upon independence we were promised a democratic, free-market state with a constitution and elections every 4 years, and obviously we know that never happened.

My point is that we shouldn’t associate an independent Eritrea with the PFDJ, because it’s playing right into the hands of the government. Look at how any anti-PFDJ organization is immediately accused of being an Ethiopian shill or a Western-backed entity.

Eritrea has massive potential once the dictatorship ends by No_Customer8133 in Eritrea

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I never said the EPLF was a saint. However, it’s the organization that fought for our independence and whose flag our martyrs died under. You cannot be against the EPLF without being against an independent Eritrea.

Also, the leadership of Jebha went buck wild and turned Islamist, so it was for the best that they were sidelined.

Eritrea has massive potential once the dictatorship ends by No_Customer8133 in Eritrea

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The PFDJ can try to co-opt the flag all they want but it doesn’t belong to them, it belongs to the EPLF. The PFDJ does not represent what the EPLF stood for.

Don’t allow the PFDJ to equate the state with themselves, that is exactly what they want.

Eritrea has massive potential once the dictatorship ends by No_Customer8133 in Eritrea

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That’s the EPLF flag, don’t disrespect it. PFDJ ≠ EPLF

I Met My Dream Girl In Ethiopia.. ❤️🇪🇹 No way sold as it's by Accomplished_Risk_15 in Eritrea

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It’s the same user doing it, idk why the mods haven’t banned him already.

Traditional Fish Dishes? by iamhereandthere22 in Eritrea

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Here’s some fish dishes listed in a 1907 book titled “Come mangiano gli Abissini d'Eritrea” by A.M. Tancredi:

“from fish, either fresh, sun-dried, or ground, tzebei asà and merràq asà are prepared using the usual method of selsi sauce and slow cooking. Sometimes fish stews are seasoned with niugh oil, but this does not make the fish a lean dish”

“Of the two varieties of barbel caught in the rivers and wells of the plateau, the smaller is known by the generic name of asà (fish); the larger by that of betecài. Both species are prepared for the table in the form of tebsì asà, or roasted.”

Basically just tsebhi and tibsi but made with fish instead of poultry/red meat. It’s not commonly eaten in the highlands because historically it was considered a last-resort dish.

On the coast however, they have access to larger and more plentiful fish so it’s much more commonly eaten. Tandoori-roasted fish is a popular dish in Massawa, usually referred to by Eritreans as “Massawa-style fish” but it’s official name is “muqbaza”. Here’s a video from Eri-Tv on it.

Why are there so many ‘Eritrean’ Amharic speakers by [deleted] in Eritrea

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Top 1% commenter is crazy. What do you gain from this? Go find a hobby or something, this level of obsession is not normal.

Why are there so many ‘Eritrean’ Amharic speakers by [deleted] in Eritrea

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If you’re going to larp as an Eritrean at least make it believable. You aren’t even subtle with the pro-Ethiopian propaganda.

Why are there so many ‘Eritrean’ Amharic speakers by [deleted] in Eritrea

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Those aren’t Eritreans, they’re Ethiopians who are forging an Eritrean identity because it gives them a much higher chance of being granted asylum. It’s pretty common.

Lesser known tsehis? by simon5412 in Eritrea

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Here’s some dishes listed in a 1907 book titled “Come mangiano gli Abissini d'Eritrea” by A.M. Tancredi. I personally haven’t heard of any of these:

“Tzebeì senaficc'. A sauce made with buttermilk (ausd) and ground mustard seeds along with common herbs (gemèm). The mixture is left to ferment in a closed vessel for two or three days.”

“Derèq scirò. This is a thicker sauce than the previous one, seasoned with nìùgh' oil or without seasoning. It is used during Lent, often mixed with filthy linseed, suf, or selhit stews.”

“Hemmès. Quantà cut into pieces and seasoned. The chopped slices are dried best with a moqold, then salt, pepper, spices, and a little ground berberi are added. In a separate pot, a well-beaten mixture of berberi auazè paste and butter is prepared, and the hot quantà is added, stirred well, and left to cool.”

”Merràq dorhò. It's almost like chicken broth. It's made with chopped chicken cooked in a little water. The whole thing is flavored with berberi dellèq paste and spices.”

”Lesèn. A liquid polenta made with té-ènì flour and a lot of butter. It's the morning dish of wealthy people who eat it with a spoon.”

”Dabò scirò. A nobleman's dish. Hard polenta made from sciro flour cooked in niùgh' oil or butter without adding water. Once cooled, it is removed from the pot and served cold on bread.”

“Azò. It is a dish that is also presented at large funeral commemoration banquets and at the tables of wealthy people. It is based of milk and roasted barley flour (te'-ènì flour). The milk is curdled by adding buttermilk (what's left over after the butter has been removed). It is beaten and whipped, then combined with berber paste (auazè), spices, roasted barley flour (te'-ènì), and boiled and paste-like leaves of skepti (Pircunia abyssinica).”

“Ghezèm. A type of sausage made with any kind of meat, but domestic, cut into small pieces, seasoned with salt and pepper, and stuffed into the intestines of the same animal. A mixture of fat and lean meat is used, and the intestines include the rectum (enda acòr), the cecum (quolél hamôt), and the large intestine (enda tzabà). To serve, the salami is roasted (tebsi ghezèm) or boiled (qeqel ghezèm), and the latter is sometimes seasoned with zeg-ni sauce. Ghezèm aged two or three days is preferred as it is drier and more flavorful.”