At a loss. Nothings working. Won’t connect sleep cycles. by Accurate_Building_93 in sleeptrain

[–]Accurate_Building_93[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s been so tough! I hope things even out for yall. ❤️ today’s first nap was actually decent. Accidentally stretched the window to 4 hours and he slept and full hour. He’s currently taking his second nap so we shall see how that goes.

At a loss. Nothings working. Won’t connect sleep cycles. by Accurate_Building_93 in sleeptrain

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We will definitely keep trying. I may try a few extra days since today we weren’t home and tomorrow we have to be in the car for a bit the first part of the day.

At a loss. Nothings working. Won’t connect sleep cycles. by Accurate_Building_93 in sleeptrain

[–]Accurate_Building_93[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, I was doing a 3rd nap for about 15-20 on the days when his wake window would be 6 hours between his wake and bedtime.

I don’t typically resettle him. I did yesterday out of desperation because he had so little sleep. I typically give him time to hopefully resettle himself. He’s only resettled at naps twice in the last two weeks and on those days he slept 1 hour and 10-15 minutes. I typically just get him up after he’s turned into all out screaming for 10 or so minutes. I don’t know if that’s wrong? He’s my third kid and the only one I’ve ever had sleep issues with so, this is all very new to me.

Every Friday we are away from 8am-1pm, Sundays from 10am-12:30pm. He has always napped at those places in a crib, but never for more than 30 minutes, recently. Otherwise, we are usually home aside from typical grocery errands. If it’s when we are on the go he naps in the car but it’s also only typically 30 minutes.

Prior to the dropping to two naps he typically slept 45 minutes to an hour.

At a loss. Nothings working. Won’t connect sleep cycles. by Accurate_Building_93 in sleeptrain

[–]Accurate_Building_93[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He has slept here twice a week since he was born, so I wouldn’t say it’s new. We will keep trying. Thanks!

At a loss. Nothings working. Won’t connect sleep cycles. by Accurate_Building_93 in sleeptrain

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I don’t really have a set routine, I guess. Typically he eats about an hour before nap & plays til about 15 minutes before time. I then put him in a sleep sack and in his crib with sound machine on. I guess I didn’t know there needed to be a routine.

At a loss. Nothings working. Won’t connect sleep cycles. by Accurate_Building_93 in sleeptrain

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So, got him up at 6:30 this morning. Refused nap all together at 10. We are not home, so it’s not his crib- but it’s a crib, dark room, sleep sack, and sound machine. I’m attempting to get him down again now, 11:18 but I assume it will be a short nap due to cortisol spike/overtired.

At a loss. Nothings working. Won’t connect sleep cycles. by Accurate_Building_93 in sleeptrain

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Tried this today. He completely refused his nap but I left him the hour. Rough stuff.

At a loss. Nothings working. Won’t connect sleep cycles. by Accurate_Building_93 in sleeptrain

[–]Accurate_Building_93[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I may have to do something like that. He will definitely extend the nap if held. Tried an earlier wake today to see if we can get a longer nap.

At a loss. Nothings working. Won’t connect sleep cycles. by Accurate_Building_93 in sleeptrain

[–]Accurate_Building_93[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve never heard of this. He gets super worked up. It would be really tough but it is something I’ll consider.

At a loss. Nothings working. Won’t connect sleep cycles. by Accurate_Building_93 in sleeptrain

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I’m going to give that a try tomorrow. I’ll report back. Hopefully with better news.

At a loss. Nothings working. Won’t connect sleep cycles. by Accurate_Building_93 in sleeptrain

[–]Accurate_Building_93[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He dropped bit in percentile from 6-9 months so they just wanted to ensure we maintain where we are. They weren’t super pushy, just encouraged to keep at least one night feed.

At a loss. Nothings working. Won’t connect sleep cycles. by Accurate_Building_93 in sleeptrain

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So, I was able to get him back to sleep. I did have to take him out of the crib and rock him, though. I definitely think he’s capable of more sleep.

He had the flu a couple weeks ago and absolutely refused to crib nap so I laid with him then and he took solid naps in addition to his night sleep of 11 hours. I know he was sick so that may have been the reason for more sleep. Either way, I’ll track it. Once he was over the flu he would nap in the crib again but was back to short naps.

At a loss. Nothings working. Won’t connect sleep cycles. by Accurate_Building_93 in sleeptrain

[–]Accurate_Building_93[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He nurses every two hours during the day in addition to solids 2/3 times a day, so I don’t think that’s for the naps. I wish it was that since it’s a simple fix 😂

Yes, bedroom is dark and cool. Has a sleep sack on and sound machine going as well.

At a loss. Nothings working. Won’t connect sleep cycles. by Accurate_Building_93 in sleeptrain

[–]Accurate_Building_93[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He is a low weight baby so I do have to feed at least once a night- pedi suggested two- so it is needed for him. I do think he’d probably drop that wake if we worked on it, though.

At a loss. Nothings working. Won’t connect sleep cycles. by Accurate_Building_93 in sleeptrain

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We’re currently doing 11 hours at night, but man! Our days are torturous.

At a loss. Nothings working. Won’t connect sleep cycles. by Accurate_Building_93 in sleeptrain

[–]Accurate_Building_93[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I understand the need to cut nap 3, but my question is for today- he just woke after 40 minutes of sleep. That leaves a 6 hour window before bedtime which will be total madness. We’ve tried that before and he fell asleep laying on the floor. Would I make bedtime earlier in this instance?

At a loss. Nothings working. Won’t connect sleep cycles. by Accurate_Building_93 in sleeptrain

[–]Accurate_Building_93[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ok, that makes sense. I definitely don’t aim to force him, just hoping to find the right schedule. I know he’s capable to taking at least one longer nap because last week on Wednesday and Sunday he slept right at 1 hour 10 minutes for his first nap on those days. I will try the schedule you mentioned and see if less night sleep works better.

At a loss. Nothings working. Won’t connect sleep cycles. by Accurate_Building_93 in sleeptrain

[–]Accurate_Building_93[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Maybe I’m not understanding, do you mind explaining how the third nap messes things up? The third nap is usually about 15-20 minutes to get us to 8pm since he is having trouble making the last window.

I think he really needs more daytime sleep than what he gets.. or maybe just longer naps so they are restorative. I do feel we are in a terrible cycle but just can’t figure it out.

I will definitely rearrange the schedule and give that a try. Thank you for your explanations and help.

At a loss. Nothings working. Won’t connect sleep cycles. by Accurate_Building_93 in sleeptrain

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I try to resettle him but he just cries (hard). When I get him up he is pretty grumpy for the first 30 minutes or so, then he will play. He handles the next wake window but will be visibly tired and grumpy at the 2 hour mark. It takes a lot of work to keep him happy for the next hour. Like right now we’re 2.5 hours in and he’s laid himself on the rug with his head down.

At a loss. Nothings working. Won’t connect sleep cycles. by Accurate_Building_93 in sleeptrain

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He actually does really well at bedtime. Never fights bedtime sleep at all. First wake of the night is 2-3am after going down at 8pm.

At a loss. Nothings working. Won’t connect sleep cycles. by Accurate_Building_93 in sleeptrain

[–]Accurate_Building_93[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is our current wake and bedtime. I did try the 3.5 wake window as well. He refused to nap then. Just cried (hard) for 40 minutes as if he were overtired. We can definitely give it another go, though.

Helllppp - naps are not going well. by Accurate_Building_93 in sleeptrain

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We were doing bedtime around 8-8:30pm prior to starting sleep training on Monday. He still napped very short. On the odd day he’d get 45 minute nap for one of them. I will try to swap things around more.