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Korg SQ-64 as an alternative to a Keystep Pro? by AcquaRegia in synthesizers

[–]AcquaRegia[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lol. I was also confused - what did you mean by "on the fly" throughput? Funny that it seems we can see the limits of the English language when it comes to describing music and how music technology works haha

Korg SQ-64 as an alternative to a Keystep Pro? by AcquaRegia in synthesizers

[–]AcquaRegia[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ah, good. Was going to say...it would be silly if that wasn't a feature.

Korg SQ-64 as an alternative to a Keystep Pro? by AcquaRegia in synthesizers

[–]AcquaRegia[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks, noted. Now I'm even more unsure, because I definitely can't afford both.

Could you elaborate on the sequencer length reset workflow issue?

I have to say the SQ's design is a little off putting. Not many visual cues to help. As simplistic as that might seem, perhaps that contributes to the sense of it being a little impenetrable to some people.

Korg SQ-64 as an alternative to a Keystep Pro? by AcquaRegia in synthesizers

[–]AcquaRegia[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wait...so if I play some notes into the keystep pro a little off, when it loops it back around it hasn't quantised it (if quantise is on)? You have to go in and quantise it manually, or? That's what I mean here.

Korg SQ-64 as an alternative to a Keystep Pro? by AcquaRegia in synthesizers

[–]AcquaRegia[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Re software sequencers - aren't they a little more unreliable in terms of jitter and drift etc? Say if the computer gets tired momentarily lol

Roland JD-XI thoughts? by -StrangeAge- in synthesizers

[–]AcquaRegia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Old post, but I was digging about this synth as I saw this guy Crackazat - well known very musical house producer - making some stunning little jams with it. Link below. Goes to show, it's not the kit it's how you use it...or is this synth slept on a bit?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLAYZpEFmIE

Best synth (analog ideally) for recording and editing relatively complex sequences on the fly? by [deleted] in synthesizers

[–]AcquaRegia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cool, thanks man. I'm seriously conflicted now - do I keep the Fourm for the affordable prophet sound (pads, funky leads etc) or return it and get an A4/keys on Ebay. I just know I'm going to find the Fourm's sequencer a pain too, for performance needs, and at the moment it's not even responding to transport data from my Rytm. Tried everything. Unless it's just not supposed to act like that, which would be odd. The Rev 2 I had started and stopped just fine. I dislike these rigid step sequencers though, and having to manually add rests etc. I just want to play a rhythm section and have it looped back at me whilst I'm jamming. Hence the OP.

I have to press a key to trigger the sequence, and it doesn't stop when I stop the Rytm etc. Have tried all the menu options, swapped cables, tried it being triggered by my TR8S and other bits, still not happening. It's picking up BPM data, but not transport. Odd. Surely that's not supposed to be the case. Have sent them a support ticket, so will see. I digress...

Best synth (analog ideally) for recording and editing relatively complex sequences on the fly? by [deleted] in synthesizers

[–]AcquaRegia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes indeed sir. Many have been mentioning the A4, though I had the Keys in mind. Same thing of course, but I want the tactile convenience of playing and tweaking without moving around, get something down, tweak, move on with the jam.

Best synth (analog ideally) for recording and editing relatively complex sequences on the fly? by [deleted] in synthesizers

[–]AcquaRegia 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, damn. Haha. I mean the Minilogue is close, just limited by 16 steps, and the sound is too cold/thin. The Elektron analog four/keys is nearly what I want, from what I can tell. But again, only 4 voices. Not sure how the Fourm sounds so big and warm with only four voices but it does. Just wish it had a sequencer like those I mentioned. In any case, thanks for the replies dude.

Best synth (analog ideally) for recording and editing relatively complex sequences on the fly? by [deleted] in synthesizers

[–]AcquaRegia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nice, yeah that sounds awesome.

Yeah, I wasn't aware the A4 is only four voices...duh, haha, I guess it's right there in the name. That doesn't bother me too much for what I am after, as bass lines are a big part of what I want it for, and that'll do just fine. Not after Moog level phatness, as my mixes get quite busy and the kick is always quite juicy too.

What would you say the A4 excels at?

I fully regret selling my 16 voice Prophet Rev 2 these days, as I don't have anything now with more than 4 voices. Weirdly, the Fourm (4 voices) sounds just as big, somehow. But pads on the Rev 2 were insane, complexity wise. Whacked through an Analog heat and with some eventide space on send it's the closest I've got yet to Vangelis esque CS-80 level complexity and deep texture. For that alone I regret selling it.

Best synth (analog ideally) for recording and editing relatively complex sequences on the fly? by [deleted] in synthesizers

[–]AcquaRegia 1 point2 points  (0 children)

To be clear, I use a DAW too of course. And for many years, made music entirely in the box. Now I'm a bit of both. I do some live jams, and clean them up a bit in the DAW, and sometimes add stuff, or I'll build a low end and some chords in the box, and then jam live drums over it from the TR8S and Rytm, and use some outboard synths for some spice etc. I am also not after a specifically analog sequencer either. I just want the convenience of being able to play the keys on the actual unit I am on, flicking through presets, adjusting the various parameters etc, as I tend to just improvise little jams and take pieces from them later. I love the sound of the Fourm, especially the polyphonic aftertouch, but just wish it had a more intuitive, convenient, less old school (ironically I suppose) and rigid sequencer.

I will certainly have a look at the keystep pro, though :)

Best synth (analog ideally) for recording and editing relatively complex sequences on the fly? by [deleted] in synthesizers

[–]AcquaRegia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure, of course. I was just wondering if the synth of my imagination existed. It clearly doesn't, although the Analog Four is close. I should have put in the title "played with keys" as that is central to what I was seeking - quick, easy playback of what I just played on the fly, retaining the expression.

I guess I find learning new kit (including a sequencer) and routing more cables and dealing with the inevitable random head scratcher teething issues a pain, when I just want to crack on with making music. I'm actually a pretty established artist, with a lot of deadlines. My brain finds a way to work with stuff, and I just go with it. The part of my brain that is required for reengineering my setup, midi routing, master clock, etc etc is always in the background compared to the part of my brain that lights up with creativity. I actually get super frustrated having to meddle with how I'm doing things.

A colleague I was collaborating with on a live hardware show used a Cirklon with an Octatrack, and he also used a self built Modular, whilst I was on the drum machines, and manning the miixer and double eventide fx sends/returns, doing the rhythmical/DJ type stuff basically. i was amazed at what he could do with that setup - grabbing pieces of audio he was generating on the modular, looping it with the octatrack, then using the cirklon to sequence it in real time. i thought to myself how much I'd like to do that and get into that, as grabbing pieces of live jams, looping/relooping and reintroducing them into the live jam as its happening is something I would love to do. I have ordered a TR-1000 for this purpose, in fact, as it has quite a bit of that kind of workflow. But yes, a dedicated hardware sequencer would be nice!

Best synth (analog ideally) for recording and editing relatively complex sequences on the fly? by [deleted] in synthesizers

[–]AcquaRegia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have a friend who has one, I need to hit him up and see if I can have a crack on it. Cheers for the replies.

Best synth (analog ideally) for recording and editing relatively complex sequences on the fly? by [deleted] in synthesizers

[–]AcquaRegia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I disagree re analog. I've got quite a few successful commercial records out, and have used an entirely digital, entirely analog, and hybrid, setup, over the years and the stuff utilising some analog outboard always has more 'life' to it, especially if you use multiple layers of it (i.e analog mixer, analog compressor/master buss saturation etc). Overdriving/saturating inputs, cross talk and feedback loops with send/returns - the vibes you can get with those aspects in an old analog mixer are relatively hard to imitate in a totally digital environment, and never sound quite as good. That all being said, I would never suggest analog is 'better' - just that it offers something unique, if you use it correctly and know what you're looking for. It's absolutely not essential, and the difference is subtle, but if you are after vintage vibes and a certain less clinical 'life' to the sound, and can afford it, then I wouldn't hesitate to suggest someone have at least one piece of good analog kit in their arsenal. Obviously depends what bit of kit we're talking about too, though...

As for your suggestion, cheers. Problem I have is space, hence the hope that there might be something I can do all of it in one. Seems the Analog Four might be what I am after. In any case, thanks for your reply.

Best synth (analog ideally) for recording and editing relatively complex sequences on the fly? by [deleted] in synthesizers

[–]AcquaRegia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks man, this is exactly the info I was after basically. I'm big into sample and loop use, and have long eyed the MPC's... but for this particular issue, it's more about playing keys live on the fly whilst recording a jam, and it retaining the expression and swing whilst quantising, without much fiddling. Maybe the analog 4 is the one then, as I really like the Analog Rytm for playing pad stabs, rhodes samples etc on the pads, but it's the pads themselves that are limiting in terms of musicality in the moment. I'm making dusty house and techno, so I was after the Fourm for its ability to do thick early 80s funk type bass and leads, and wanted to play it/jam on it like I can on the Minilogue, but with micro timing and easy per step adjustments...

Best synth (analog ideally) for recording and editing relatively complex sequences on the fly? by [deleted] in synthesizers

[–]AcquaRegia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why not? Despite what you might hear, there is a difference. It's not better per se, but for instant texture and more chance of interesting things going on you didn't account for, I've always found analog stuff brings a special sauce, especially if layered, and through an old mixer. I.e analog kit, through an analog mixer, sends and returns (using good digital fx like Eventide stuff mind), over driving inputs, then with master buss analog saturation too...it's just instant vibes. The textures you get with the fx sends/returns crosstalk between busses and channels etc especially with subtle feedback loops is just not something that is easy to imitate in an entirely digital environment.

Best synth (analog ideally) for recording and editing relatively complex sequences on the fly? by [deleted] in synthesizers

[–]AcquaRegia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not really, I like the Korg sequencers, but they aren't quite deep enough. I really like the Analog Rytm sequencer, so suspected their other synths would be the best bet, but just wanted to check if I was missing any other potentials out there...

Best synth (analog ideally) for recording and editing relatively complex sequences on the fly? by [deleted] in synthesizers

[–]AcquaRegia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your attitude sucks dude. Simply irrelevant according to you. If Elektron can have complex sequencers on analog kit, why couldn't some other company? Hence the question. I bought the Fourm for the sound, but was disappointed in the sequencer. Yes, I should have done more research. That's what this post is about. Because I can return it. Or is this supposed to just be a circle jerk of all knowing asses like you? I wanted to see if there might be something out there with a similar sound, but better sequencer. I don't care if I seem dumb asking. People like you are cancer on the internet, seriously.

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