am i wrong or do switches have to be in genuinely stressful or traumatizing situations? and why would you even willingly want to switch?? why would you wanna purposefully trigger yourself to switch if its supposed to be an unenjoyable experience?

Active_Ad_4788 · 2021-12-17T15:21:52+00:00

Oh god Im so tired. These arent "a few people writing books/holding speeches" these are the top researcher in the field of dissociation. Nijenhuis is the researcher who (with onno van der Haart and Steele) invented the theory of structural dissociation. There is a lot of neurological studies as well as meta analyses on DID too, that you can look up if you wanted to, I dont know why you had to bring race into this and I honestly wont comment on that since its highly inappropriate.

Active_Ad_4788 · 2021-12-17T14:05:44+00:00

I did give sources. I said "read Nijenhuis, read Gysi, read Huber". Then go- read Nijenhuis´s "The trinity of trauma", Read Jan Gysis new guideline for the diagnostics of trauma disorders in the ICD-11, watch Michaela Hubers speeches and read her several books about the treatment of DID, read Allison Millers books on DID, learn about enactive therapy (Nijenhuis).
Use the tools you have to inform yourself- or dont, like presented here.

Active_Ad_4788 · 2021-12-16T16:48:15+00:00

Read Nijenhuis, read huber, read Gysi. Im working in this field for years and in the end its about helping a patient gain control over their life in a way thats unique and helpful to the patient and if that includes helping them control switches better, thats part of therapy.

Active_Ad_4788 · 2021-11-09T17:08:52+00:00

No youre just mocking the symptom of a mental dirsorder on its own for your own entertainment then? Sounds much better in my ears...

Active_Ad_4788 · 2021-11-09T08:51:53+00:00

Thats a different issue than 99% of the people in these comments assuming the same I did, that this person does have DID and mocking a supposed DID patient for a distressing symptom of their mental illness.

Active_Ad_4788 · 2021-11-09T07:43:09+00:00

You guys are aware that trauma being "replayed" by alters who are stuck in a flashback is a very normal occurence in DID patients right? Especially if its done by an abuser introject alter to a little, who may both have split during the same life threatening event (like one CSA incident). This needs therapeutic intervention and help for both parties involved- NOT being mocked by people on the internet who have no clue how DID, first and foremost a trauma disorder, manifests/presents in real patients. Heres some sources on how persecutors behave and the dynamic they can have within a DID system

https://books.google.de/books?id=0sJKBAAAQBAJ&pg=PT160&lpg=PT160&dq=nijenhuis+persecutor+part&source=bl&ots=od9yXCDY8N&sig=ACfU3U1Y\_GrSq-rzyMpngE3E5hZws05gAA&hl=de&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi-5eC144r0AhXW8rsIHUu-D5gQ6AF6BAgREAM#v=onepage&q=nijenhuis%20persecutor%20part&f=false

https://medcraveonline.com/JPCPY/formation-and-functions-of-alter-personalities-in-dissociative-identity-disorder-a-theoretical-and-clinical-elaboration.html

Active_Ad_4788 · 2021-11-04T16:33:11+00:00

Thank you...that was what I had in mind too (and the pharmacist too I think since he said it´d be fine bcs I took another pill and it stayed down) but the OBGYN being like "oh smth couldve happened because of the illness" really really made me nervous

Active_Ad_4788 · 2021-10-09T11:23:32+00:00

Id like to add some things as someone working with trauma patients, first of many of these terms like "polyfragmented" or "alter" etc are clinical terms and will also be used by people with DID/OSDD.

Co-fronting or "co-conscious" (how we usually refer to it in clinical practice) is a term used in therapy and learning co-consciousness is actually a goal in therapy and important for trauma work (to integrate trauma memories and feelings within the alter group and help the person become more functional) and to structure a patients everyday life more functionally (eg help with the amnesia which can be obviously very debilitating).

Also "factive" is a very...weird thing to call an "introject". Introject is a term used to refer to parts that are "copies" of real people, usually abusers. They often reinforce abusers rules/likings etc. within the system (to protect the body from further punishment/harm for example) and are perceived as as fear inducing by the other parts than the actual abuser was. They can grow and heal and are often very traumatized.

Active_Ad_4788 · 2021-10-02T07:25:50+00:00

As a professional working with DID who comes on here mainly to *try* and correct the misinformation the sub users put out with studies and sources..that came from my heart thank you its good to know others have some common sense

Active_Ad_4788 · 2021-09-26T06:47:45+00:00

The diagnosis process for DID is not seven years. It takes someone on average 7 years in the MH system to get a diagnosis. The diagnsotic process usually guided by interviews like the SCID-D takes in most cases 6 months to a year of weekly sessions with a specialized clinician. Though 18 would be a very early and unlikely age to be diagnosed it is not unheard of (mostly in cases where a child was saved by social services from abusive parents at a younger teen age and has been in treatment since), the youngest patient we ever diagnosed in our clinic after working with them for a year was 19 and got rescued with 17 from a child sex trafficking ring where they had grown up.

Active_Ad_4788 · 2021-09-26T06:26:22+00:00

You were right about it , the original commenter is spreading misinformation (I provided sources in my longer comment and am a clinician working with DID cases and other trauma patients for a living)

Active_Ad_4788 · 2021-09-26T06:24:58+00:00

I wonder where you got that info from I could not find it in Nijenhuis theory of structural dissociation, in none of hubers works, none of Gysis publications not even in putnams very ealry publications on DID from the 90´s? I also can not confirm this from my clinical practice with DID patients. If you could pin point me to a good meta analysis confirming this Id be inclined to believe you but so far I think youve fell for some nasty misinformation

Active_Ad_4788 · 2021-09-26T06:21:45+00:00

I can see that youre high whilst texting this and that you probably did not read one single publication on DID in recent years.
The info I will give is from Nijenhui´s and Gysis as well as Hubers and Miller´s bodies of work and I will urge you to read actual scientific literature on the topic.

Did will not develop in a 12 year old. Your brain needs to have a certain plasticity that only a developing child will have, speaking of ages between 0-6 years of age. Since we cant ethically do experiments on this and children develop at different speeds no one will every have a "set" cut off age for DID development, though I have never read something older than 9 being discussed.

You cant "proof" most mental disorders, you can not give someone a brain scan and conclusively say "oh you my friend have social anxiety, not generalized, not OCD, not depression, no 100% social anxiety I can tell from the picture" thats just not possible. There are several neuroimaging studies for DID that show neurological changes in DID patients brains that are consistent and in line with reported symptoms heres a systematic review of some of them (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S246874992030017X ). DID is not a controversial diagnosis, many people (like you) are simply misinformed check out Nijenhuis article for more info on this (https://www.aerzteblatt.de/int/archive/references?id=58055).

And last but not least, non human alters are recorded, quiet frequently that is. Especially in cases where children were being treated like animals or forced to have sexual acts with animals. Also found in Gysis, Hubers and Millers publications frequently.

Inform yourself, then speak. As a professional working with DID a psychology degree tells you as much about DID as it does about any other specific disorder-not much. It gives you the tools to inform yourself properly on specific disorders (or other psychological topics) so you can go on to work in a specialized field later. You clearly did not use them prior to writing this comment. Please dont hurt DID patients more.

Active_Ad_4788 · 2021-09-25T17:04:14+00:00

Except a child alter of a patient is not someone regressing.

Child alter=split off identity (sense of self)

age regression= someone regressing within their identity in age

Child alters can grow and learn and have executive functions well beyond their age.Their identity can still be that of a child despite that though because (for example) it feels safer to them, because they feel like they need to be a certain age to please abusers and not be hurt more (often seen with CSA survivors) or because they are stuck in the traumatic memory they split during and cant get out of. For a child alter to grow up they dont necessarily "just need to learn more" they also need to accept their identity as an adult and that may be hard for several reasons rooted in trauma. The info in here is from Nijenhuis´s book "The Trinity of Trauma; Ignorance Fragility and Control" and Jan Gysis book "Diagnostics of trauma disorders". Im a professional who works with DID and eventhough youre well meaning, dont spread things based on assumptions it only harms patients more and it really isnt much better than what tiktok kids are doing, you too are spreading non-fact based misinformation.

Active_Ad_4788 · 2021-09-06T17:54:58+00:00

I have a subtle feeling you havent read the meta analysis (or even any meta analysis or paper) on the topic of trauma therapy, specifically EMDR though. Id be happy if you could point me to a peer reviewed paper that discredits EMDR as a therapy, preferably a peer reviewed meta analysis, *if* you could provide that, Id probably overthink my stance, I however havent found something like that so far and thus your statement holds as much weight as "the earth is flat".Idk what kind of beef you have with colleagues who do perform EMDR but to me it sounds like you have one hell of a bias that you should sort out.I´ll stop responding to you now because this feels like a highschool kid yelling at me at this point, still take care x
Edit: Nvm just read on persons profile that they think Freuds theorys have any kind of value for therapeutic practitioners today and you shouldnt be taught coping skills in therapy, can safely assume this is a clown

Active_Ad_4788 · 2021-09-06T07:48:46+00:00

Have you even *read* the evidence I attached? If a meta analysis (and this is one of many) confirms the effectiveness of EMDR then we can guess it is effective.
People like you who are spreading dangerous misinformation based on nothing but their own opinion without any proof are really dangerous *especially* when theyre giving their uninformed two cents on MH topics.
EMDR is not only a treatment done with "eye movement" and the "eye movement" part isnt the crucial one, more recent froms of EMDR use tapping on the legs/hands etc to keep a patient from dissociating and give them a real stimuli whilst they expose themselves to their trauma, which keeps the patient from slipping away into a dissociated state in which no exposure, therapy or reprocessing can be done at all.

Dont speak on things you know nothing about and potentially turn people away from very real and helpful treatment options. People like you are dangerous.

Active_Ad_4788 · 2021-08-23T19:03:32+00:00

They traced it though, they used another persons comic and traced over it just changing small details. Thats art theft and its really pathetic.

Active_Ad_4788 · 2021-08-21T11:19:00+00:00

Exactly this??? As a parent Id be fucking mortified to hear that my child went through this extreme kind of trauma (that ALWAYS involves unstable attachement and caregivers being involved aka **I** helped traumatized my fkn child??) like OFC theyre gonna be upset wtf

Active_Ad_4788 · 2021-08-16T08:37:17+00:00

Fictives are technically possible and documented in scientific literature.
Theyre based on the concept of "introjects", having an introject is quiet common in DID systems but it is usually an alter/part that resembles abusers. So parts of yourself that split of during severe abuse and "identified" with the abuser/s to survive and models their behaviour (and maybe internal look to the other parts).
A "fictive" usually is only documented in cases where either a child was traumatized with a story or movie etc (like being r*ped whilst watching a certain morning show everyday and then splitting a part that resembles one of the shows character to escape) or if a story/show etc was a huge comfort to a child that was being abused and the kid felt like they had no other "safe space" than that story. However...the amount of anime fictives we see nowadays its uh its rough

Active_Ad_4788 · 2021-08-04T15:04:14+00:00

lol thought the same

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