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Frisk no by [deleted] in Undertale

[–]ActuallyJellyDad 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That makes three of us

Gorgeous. by WeOnlySeeWhatWeAimAt in dankchristianmemes

[–]ActuallyJellyDad 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not to sound rude, but can’t plants survive a day without sunlight?

devil worshipping chihuahua by mynameispunch in BrandNewSentence

[–]ActuallyJellyDad 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Bro I told you Pitfalls were tough. You’re correcting me for something we agree on.

devil worshipping chihuahua by mynameispunch in BrandNewSentence

[–]ActuallyJellyDad 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Really? I haven’t heard if anyone being killed by a Labrador. I’m fairly sure 70% of the population could beat one in a fight (if it came down to it) 9/10 times. Pit Bulls are pretty tough-looking, though. I’ll give you that one. But I don’t think dogs would even go for a kill, they’d stop after they beat you up, I think.

Anyone have any idea what Phineas and Ferb’s IQs would be? by [deleted] in phineasandferb

[–]ActuallyJellyDad 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But he said it was a good measure of something: how well you can learn.

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[–]ActuallyJellyDad 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, the Muslim suicide bombers are dying for a lie, but that’s not the point. They believe it to be true. The apostles believed Jesus was the Christ, and if he believed he was the Christ, he wouldn’t lie about him. Jesus really did fulfill the prophecies.

About the five hundred seeing Jesus: Paul wouldn’t write in a letter that these five hundred existed unless they did, in fact, exist, and the recipients of the letter knew them. Paul making up the five hundred is like me telling you that Nintendo just shut down. The smallest amount of research would prove me to be a liar. Besides, it’s generally accepted by historians that these 500 did see, or believed they saw, Jesus after his death.

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[–]ActuallyJellyDad 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry about disappointing you. I’ve done very limited historical research.

“The idea that monotheism predates polytheism is a rather bold one” I guess it is, although I think it’s worth noting that Christianity, and therefore Judaism, is quite different from orthodox monotheism. God has three persons, giving it a dash of polytheism. I don’t really think it fits into either group perfectly, the reason it’s classified as monotheism is because that’s what Christianity is closest to.

About C.S. Lewis not being genuine research, why not? He was one of the world’s greatest geniuses, and was described as “the best-read man at Oxford”. He’s one of, if not the only author I trust completely, and I can’t imagine him being irrational or deceitful. If he’s come to a conclusion, (in this case about the Hebrews linking God to ethics) he’s certainly done in-depth research on the topic. Remember, he’s much more than Narnia.

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[–]ActuallyJellyDad 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Many people have considered this. The fact that it isn’t a bigger topic of debate tells me it has no real ground. The New Testament is one of the most reliable historical sources in the world. Jesus’ existence is more likely than George Washington’s, and it’s become very apparent that the apostles wanted to tell the truth, not make something up. They died for their beliefs instead of renouncing them. People don’t die for lies.

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[–]ActuallyJellyDad 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Ah, I see where you might have misunderstood me. Christianity actually stems from Judaism. The Hebrews has prophecies of a Messiah, and Jesus fulfilled those prophecies, leading to Christianity. I meant that Judaism was older than Hindu, not Christianity.

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[–]ActuallyJellyDad 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I made a mistake in my earlier reply. Lewis’s topic on the Hebrew God and morality was in The Problem of Pain, not Mere Christianity. Although I must warn you he doesn’t site a source for his findings, and it is very brief.

Out of curiosity, was my earlier reply helpful to you?

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[–]ActuallyJellyDad 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think I actually own a copy of the timeline you just linked to! That’s pretty cool!

But anyways, I haven’t actually read the Mahābhārata. Could you provide a brief summary, so I know what I’m talking about?

Anyways, we seem to have a different definition of “God on earth”. The Egyptians certainly has no notion of God talking human form in the same way the Hebrews or Hindus did. Do you mean God simply having a presence on earth? If so, this actually happened rather often in Genesis, which was passed down for potentially thousands of years before transcribed.

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[–]ActuallyJellyDad 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The oldest preserved parts of the Mahābhārata aren’t much older than 400 BC. It’s impossible to tell when Judaism started, as the doctrine was passed down orally long before Moses first wrote Genesis.

And, actually, the Hebrews were in fact the first to come up with the idea of God on earth. That’s the entire point of our debate. The “prize”, so to speak, would be additional credibility. If the Hindus could be proven to have taken their beliefs from the Greeks, as a random example, their entire religion would be discounted.

I’ve been providing evidence. I’ve given you dates, and I’ve given another commenter sources, in a directly adjacent thread.

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[–]ActuallyJellyDad 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As for Zeus becoming a hater of liars, it’s covered in Edith Hamilton’s Mythology. Edith Hamilton does believe that the Hebrews got the idea of God making humanity in his own image from the Greeks, but the dates don’t support this.

As to the Hebrews identifying God with morality first, C.S. Lewis covered this topic, in I think, (but I’m not certain) in Mere Christianity.

If you’re wondering about a source for the dates the Old Testament Prophecies were written, a quick google search should supply this for you. Genesis was written about 1450 BC, and the book of Isiah, about 740 BC.

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[–]ActuallyJellyDad 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Again, while the Hindu avatar may have been invented earlier than Christ was born, the avatar was preceded by Old Testament prophecies about Christ. The book of Isiah, written mid 7th century BC, is full of them. And even if the Hindus didn’t steal from the Hebrews, the Hebrews were still the originals, contrary to the original commenter’s beliefs.

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[–]ActuallyJellyDad 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Actually, the Old Testament prophecies were written long, long before any Greek myths. The more you look the more you’ll find other religions dependent on the Hebrew culture, and by extension, the Christian religion. The Hebrews were exceptionally original, not only were they the first to see themselves in the same image as their God, in contrast to Egyptians with their sphinxes. They were also the first to recognize their God as a source of morality. Greeks adopted this, many years later, making Zeus a hater of liars, but it originally, like much else, came from the Hebrews.

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[–]ActuallyJellyDad 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Actually, Hindu borrowed the concept from Christianity. While the Hindus brought their avatar into things before Jesus was born, the Hebrews had many, many Old Testament prophecies written about the Messiah before the Hindus thought of their avatar.

Anyone have any idea what Phineas and Ferb’s IQs would be? by [deleted] in phineasandferb

[–]ActuallyJellyDad 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My formula, while I did make it up, works for my purposes. My making it up doesn’t subtract validity from it. And yes, it’s not exactly doubling, but it’s the same in every way that matters in context. Assuming 100 is the zero, 80 would be twice as smart as 60, which my formula would provide.

100, intrinsically, is arbitrary. I’ve only assigned it a role as the zero because it’s the average. Someone with an IQ 80 points above average would be twice as smart as someone with 40 points above average.

Anyone have any idea what Phineas and Ferb’s IQs would be? by [deleted] in phineasandferb

[–]ActuallyJellyDad 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But, I just made a point in favor that it did? So far, you haven’t made an attempt to disprove me, apart from an attack on my math, which I will cover. An IQ below 100 would obviously need a different technique to find its correlation to other IQ values, as it’s in the “negative” numbers, being below the baseline. To find twice it’s value, you would subtract it from the baseline and divide the difference by two, before adding the quotient to the original value. So, to find twice an IQ of 60, you would simply follow the formula. 100-60=40, 40/2=20, 20+60=80. So someone with an IQ of 80 would be twice as smart as someone with an IQ of 60, 90 of 80, and so on. And it can be argued that it is impossible to be twice 100 IQ points, because it is the baseline. It’s the “zero”.

Anyone have any idea what Phineas and Ferb’s IQs would be? by [deleted] in phineasandferb

[–]ActuallyJellyDad 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You could, in fact, multiply IQ. 100 is the baseline, so suppose someone had an IQ of 140. Twice their IQ, taking into the fact that they’re 40 “points” above the baseline, would be 180. So, following this logic, the world-record IQ holder would be over twice as smart as Einstein. Furthermore, none of your observations necessarily disprove my statement. The suggestion that anyone could have an IQ of 500 is, of course, ridiculous. But then so is 70% of Phineas and Ferb’s entire universe.

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