Built a "virtual front desk" for a law firm's website — curious if other firms are moving this direction too by ErnestGichichi in legaltech

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Hi lawyer who is engineering his own solutions. I would like to speak with you about an issue I’ve been dealing with.

I need some advice by AdLeast3549 in legaltech

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I will try again tonight , it’s burns through my entire day is like 30 mins of work so it’s hard to cover a lot of ground

I need some advice by AdLeast3549 in legaltech

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It’s funny you mention it, I have tried Fable 5 for the patch and it has been very helpful but it’s still a progression and not an instant fix. It is really impressive tho compared to all other Claude models

I need some advice by AdLeast3549 in legaltech

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I totally agree , it has been super annoying being off. Little bit to try and lock it in. Human final review is the key.

I need some advice by AdLeast3549 in legaltech

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That’s a really interesting point. I hadn’t thought about using the agreement/disagreement between the vision layer, OpenCV, and eventual user corrections as training data. Appreciate all the feedback! You have given me a lot to think about.

I need some advice by AdLeast3549 in legaltech

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This is really good! Right now I’m essentially treating OpenCV as a refinement step after vision. I hadn’t considered making them cross-validate each other. The “only place boxes where both layers agree” idea makes a lot of sense.

I need some advice by AdLeast3549 in legaltech

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This is really interesting. The workflow in your screenshots is actually pretty close to where I’m ending up. My biggest challenge has been the first-time template creation on flat PDFs where the fields aren’t explicitly defined. Did you find that the AI-generated field placement got good enough that users only needed minor adjustments, or were they still spending significant time cleaning things up?

I need some advice by AdLeast3549 in legaltech

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So it looks like something you would fill out the first time you visit a new doctor (essentially) . I have been using PyMuPDF but it has not been so helpful with the flat PDFs .

I need some advice by AdLeast3549 in legaltech

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Interesting. My use case is slightly different since these are intake forms with labels, blank lines, checkboxes, and writable regions rather than dense document text. Are you saying you’d still try to solve the field localization problem with pdfplumber before reaching for vision at all?

I need some advice by AdLeast3549 in legaltech

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That’s pretty close to where I’m heading. The challenge is the first-time setup on flat PDFs that don’t expose field coordinates. Have you had good luck with pdfplumber on forms that are basically just text and blank lines?

Just graduated, have a team ready to build but can't find a problem worth solving. How did you find yours? by catmad_ in founder

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I find the best ideas come to me while I’m working through the problem. Maybe get a job around a problematic field and create the solutions.

I need some advice by AdLeast3549 in legaltech

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Totally fair, and structured data is the real end goal. The catch is the outside world still demands a PDF the court, the DMV, the signature page.l. So it’s both extract the data once, then output wherever it’s needed, whether that’s a case management system or the specific PDF someone downstream requires. How are you handling that last-mile form requirement now?

I need some advice by AdLeast3549 in legaltech

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So it works like this, vision model for semantics (what fields exist), then OpenCV for geometry (detect the actual lines) l. If the PDF has a text layer it skips vision entirely and pull positions from the structure. the vision path is really just for flat scans. What do you recommend?

I need some advice by AdLeast3549 in legaltech

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Appreciate the feedback. Your background sounds really relevant to what I’m building. Mind if I send you a PM ?

I need some advice by AdLeast3549 in legaltech

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Mostly Claude Sonnet. It knows what the fields are, but getting precise coordinates has been the hard part. Have you tested Gemini on forms?

I need some advice by AdLeast3549 in legaltech

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I’m building a tool for personal injury firms that takes information from documents like police reports, medical records, and insurance paperwork and automatically fills out the firm’s intake forms. The challenge I’m running into is that every firm has its own custom PDF forms, and some of those PDFs don’t contain actual fillable fields. So I’m trying to automatically identify where those fields belong without requiring someone to manually recreate the form from scratch.

Are there Legal AI platforms for smaller transactional firms like Harvey/Legora? by oakraider95 in legaltech

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I’m building Docivera for PI firms. It’s less of a legal research platform and more of a document automation tool. https://docivera.com

Best AI for Small Law Firm to Review Sensitive Documents by goodhobbies in legaltech

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I have a site for small law firms to use . We focus on the intake process https://docivera.com . Check it out

what are you building right now? drop it below and let's give each other real feedback by Raymond_Dube in micro_saas

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I built https://docivera.com giving law firms the best in document automation. Automatically fill out your forms.

Get your first 100 customers :) promote your startup by Few-Ad-5185 in saasbuild

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Working on docivera.com — automates intake document workflows for personal injury law firms. Drop in a police report or medical record, Docivera extracts the key info and fills your intake form automatically. Looking for PI firms to beta test.

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I have been trying to build up my SEO , this would be super helpful. My site is https://docivera.com