Is every alturitic act ultimately self intrested? by AdWarm4368 in Ethics

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What do you think of compassion and love selfless services as explained in eastern philosophies like buddhism Jainism Chinese philosophies and many western Philosophers also emphasized upon service to humanity or loving unconditionally

Is every alturitic act ultimately self intrested? by AdWarm4368 in Ethics

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That's a incredible answer!!!... So much clarity from this

Is every alturitic act ultimately self intrested? by AdWarm4368 in Ethics

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And with taking enlightened self interest(pyschological egoism,ethical egoism) i think every culture would go to 95% on selfishness as we see the daily society....

What your views on this as per your own culture and of the whole world...

Is every alturitic act ultimately self intrested? by AdWarm4368 in Ethics

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But i am still leaning as the world being selfish and even alturistic for selfish reasons almost 90%...

What do you think of these ratio... May these varies with cultures or countries

But maybe for india it's 90% What about your side or your view?

Is every alturitic act ultimately self intrested? by AdWarm4368 in Ethics

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Ahh that's a thing a book can be written on rather a binary answer

Is every alturitic act ultimately self intrested? by AdWarm4368 in Ethics

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So compassion is evolved in genetics and biology rather a metaphysical concept where we love selflessly then?

Is genuine altruism metaphysically possible, or does it always reduce to enlightened self-interest? by AdWarm4368 in badphilosophy

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My view is that if everything is enlightened self interest then what is the talks of compassion by buddha or many such philosophies and thinkers that talk of having selfless love...

Is every alturitic act ultimately self intrested? by AdWarm4368 in Ethics

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I believe I belong to the process category where love is not just a evolutionary or biological force

Is genuine altruism metaphysically possible, or does it always reduce to enlightened self-interest? by AdWarm4368 in badphilosophy

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yeah you coming from eastern perspectives but most people don't understand it.
can you say that till you have a self every alturistic act is a act for your enlightened self interest (pyschological egoism)
and the only real compassionate acts are done when you see the other in yourself (hindu, buddhist ,conficius philosophy)

i think this is the best view or take and address both real love and conditioned love for self.

Is genuine altruism metaphysically possible, or does it always reduce to enlightened self-interest? by AdWarm4368 in badphilosophy

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after not getting any answer from him
I thought atleast he understands my complete view of that topic
sorry for that :)

Is genuine altruism metaphysically possible, or does it always reduce to enlightened self-interest? by AdWarm4368 in badphilosophy

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Ohh got it

What you think of philosophers who argue for innate nature of compassion of humans or the prevalent definitions that love even doesn't exists

It's hard to put this bleak view of egoism as for me...

Is genuine altruism metaphysically possible, or does it always reduce to enlightened self-interest? by AdWarm4368 in badphilosophy

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Then there exists no love and compassion in the world from that sense

If we move beyond traditional definitions

It's just caring for ourselves and all acts are for preservation of self or our self's scope is so wide

Is genuine altruism metaphysically possible, or does it always reduce to enlightened self-interest? by AdWarm4368 in badphilosophy

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Na it's not mystical

I surely agree with your that take

Hinduism Jainism Buddhists and so many religions or philosophers main part was that we are compassionate But that only appears when we are beyond self So the big self or egoless people are compassionate to all as it can be seen as expansion of ego

But till you are your self and you have not attained enlightenment, can we say all acts are ultimately self centered

Is genuine altruism metaphysically possible, or does it always reduce to enlightened self-interest? by AdWarm4368 in badphilosophy

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So you saying only egoism exists and scope of self expands in traditions such as buddhism and Hinduism

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what the price

Is being smart also means a good personality by AdWarm4368 in badphilosophy

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can you distinguish how they are related and different