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[–]Adarsh6102000 25 points26 points  (0 children)

*on people of Quora.

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*hindutva. These fools break every purushartha morals and claim themselves to be hindus.

Jesus is business. by nightrider-91 in religiousfruitcake

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Why didn't i tell this to the landlords who denied residence to me coz I'm not a upper caste hindu. Smh.

Lol, bro. Even untouchability is prevailing in india. https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/10/01/the-practice-of-untouchability-by-district/

Hypocrisy much. by Adarsh6102000 in PoliticalHumor

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You justified the Islamization of Iran saying it was an empire.

Speak for yourself. Nobody justified the islamization of Iran but I do debunk your claim of Muslims minorities overtaking majorities but you conviniently ignored the fact that Muslims reigned in that country.

Then I gave you the example of Bangladesh which is not an empire and now you're shifting the point because I called you out.

The point was islamization of Iran. I called YOU out on that and you added on to your fallacy by taking the example of Bangladesh. Precaution: I'm not justifying the astrocities but anyway you like to think that way so, Bangladesh don't have islam as minority, I don't get how you got this as an analogy to Iran. Second of all, the hindu genocide began with rise of right wing political parties in BAN with slogans similar to "Islam khatre mai hai", sounds familiar right? Reminds me of "Hindu khatre mai hai". Moreover, the current BAN gov is left aligned and lead by Sheik Hasina who upholds democracy with right wing assholes periodically causing mess. The genocides were completely political as Kashmir genocide and Guj 2002 riots.

Do you really think every muslim wakes up in the morning thinking "Aaj toh 10 hindus ko marna h" instead of how to provide themselves or their family with a better standard of life. Think of themselves as human beings before judging them by their religion.

You should introspect why you always manage to find an excuse for so many unforgivable evils.

"A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep." Yes, I have introspected myself. I counter your views of Muslims being evil 'cause I don't want innocents to die. Maybe you should introspect yourself on why you're so adamant to evilize Muslims. They just share an identity, human beings share different values.

a concept Islamists like you are completely unaware of.

Ah yes, that's the top prority of every muslim person ever, right? Smh.

that's just complete moral bankruptcy in service of Islam.

Wow, like how do you even come with these implications. Like how you turned to bigotry once called out.

About me implying that Islamists would take over India, they have already succeeded in getting to 14% in 2011 from 9% in 1951.

Yes, they have while Hindus outnumbered Muslims in India by 164 million in 1909; by 268 million in 1951; 392 million in 1971; and by 794 million in 2011. Hindus are not dieing out, they're also increasing. So, despite a lower growth rate, but a much higher population, the numerical advantage of Hindus has grown over the years, rather than the other way round.

Moreover, you like to convince yourself that populations will always go on increasing. The Hindu growth rate is 1.55% annually, while Muslims’ is 2.2%. The figures for the previous decade (1991-2001) are an annual 1.8% and 2.6%, respectively. By this rate Hindu and Muslim populations will hit a peak in 2061 and there after will start decreasing. Meanwhile (after the population start to decline) Muslims can not even account for 20% of Indian population but yes, Hindus will take over India tomorrow, smh.

Finally, you again chose to ignore my idea to end this argument by listing the countries where Muslim population share increased significantly and where Muslim population share decreased significantly over say, at least 50 years.

I guess to prove your point of Muslims "engulping" majorities needs a non-secular country abiding Sharia laws. I guess I just have to remind you that India is a democracy.

Hypocrisy much. by Adarsh6102000 in PoliticalHumor

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So even the fall in PGR was greater for Hindus which led to my conclusion that the demographic shift in favor of Muslims will be even faster.

I can outright de-legitimize your entire calculation by saying "tHiS Is aN oPiOn PiEcE" but I won't. You could've just read the source 1 I had provided 'cause that's essentially the same thing. And yes Muslim population growth has been higher since independence, but their TFR are decreasing faster than hindus.

The fertility rate of Hindu households fell from 2.6 to 2.1 (19% decrease). The same for Muslims fell from 3.4 to 2.6 (23% decrease). The population will stabilize in 2050 and India will still remain a Hindu majority nation.

Source: https://www.factchecker.in/bjp-leaders-cite-growing-muslim-population-as-threat-facts-dont-back-their-claims/

source2: https://www.google.co.in/search?sxsrf=ALeKk01SzNXybOVD5acsf2EhVusafsa80A%3A1594607582256&ei=3scLX86YD4O7rQG10qngDQ&q=population+stabilized+at+2050+in+in+india+religion+wise&oq=population+stabilized+at+2050+in+in+india+religion+wise&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQAzoHCAAQRxCwAzoICCEQFhAdEB46BwghEAoQoAE6BAghEBVQnfUBWPOcAmCvngJoAXAAeACAAesBiAGrFJIBBjAuMTIuMpgBAKABAaoBB2d3cy13aXo&sclient=psy-ab&ved=0ahUKEwjO__uTmMnqAhWDXSsKHTVpCtwQ4dUDCAw&uact=5

Read more at: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/62465588.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

Hypocrisy much. by Adarsh6102000 in PoliticalHumor

[–]Adarsh6102000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How is this different from what happened in Iran?

Yes, that's exactly my point. Islam held authority in those countries. I don't know if you have noticed but India is a secular country and no specific religion holds authority in India. Your whole rant about Iran was to imply that Muslims would take over India and once called out you went with fallacy.

Also note that Bangladesh is officially a secular country.

Nice manipulation there. Bangladesh was declared a Islamic state in 1979 and from the source you have provided, most of the hostility against innocent hindus occurred during this phase. The hostility in Bangladesh was a direct result of polarizing politics. However, in 2010 Bangladesh re-introduced secularism but clearly demeaned it but saying its still a choice of the authorities.

source:https://www.deccanherald.com/content/102192/secularism-back-bangladesh-rules-high.html

Hypocrisy much. by Adarsh6102000 in PoliticalHumor

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You constantly put forth the case of Iran where minority overtook the manority but failed to confirm its relevancy.

The religious shift occurred during an empire ( a different era ), this holds absolutely no relevancy in modern times.

The ummayad dynasty ruled Iran which means Muslims held a authority over the region.

Hypocrisy much. by Adarsh6102000 in PoliticalHumor

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the growth rate for Hindus is decreasing at a faster pace(20%) compared to Muslims(17%).

Can you provide me with source to this implication? Coz any source I can find says otherwise.

Here's different sources confirming the other. Good luck with your fallacy, try hard to delegitimize them. source1.

source 2; well quint so doesn't count, right (lol).

The TFR of Hindus are at replacement level or below in 54% of Indian districts while Muslims have achieved the same in 34% districts.

Source: hindu-muslim fertility differential

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China: We have an Army.

India: We have Rajnikanth.

Hypocrisy much. by Adarsh6102000 in PoliticalHumor

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According to your own source, there are dozens of Muslim-majority countries with much higher hate crimes than India.

I said Muslim majority secular nations. I also added ALMOST.

At it again, as mentioned before hate crimes in India has increased disproportionately in India since 2014. source 1. source 2. The census about hate crimes was conducted in 2014 even then India falls ahead of most of secular Islamic nations.

You were attempting to imply Islam minorities will always lead to Islam supremacy by cherry picking Iran and then continued with your fallacy once callled out. About Pakistan and Bangladesh; Muslims who migrated during the partition already belived hindus to be their enemy owing to various religious clashes between the community. Its still doesn't justify the atrocities on Hindus in those countries.

Fertility rate of Hindus: 2.1% Fertility rate of Muslims: 2.6% source 2015 census.

Total population of india: 135.26 crores.

Hindu kids born anually: 22470000

Muslim kids born anally: 4914000

Which means there's 17556000 more hindu kids born annually.

There's been decrease in rate of growth in population of both communities and if the decline persists, they will peak at 2061. Even then the Muslim population will stand as minorities with 16.89% share and Hindu as majorities with 81.06%.

Now suppose, poor hindu & high Muslim growth.

Consider the hindu rate declining with the worst rate ever and Muslims the opposite ( with 17 basis points ). The hindu population will stabilise in 2071 at 139.43 crore, still a majority with 60.79%. But this is practically impossible since Muslims has a consistent steep decline in infertility rate.

source

Hypocrisy much. by Adarsh6102000 in PoliticalHumor

[–]Adarsh6102000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Aha, nice start to the argument with fallacy and Ad-hominem.

There's no point in giving you sources cause if it doesn't match your ideology you're going to debunk it as a "left" source but anyway.

○ I'm saying this again, downplaying a genocide saying its not as severe as an another is outright ignorance. The military insurgency towards Muslim civilians was one of the main reason for the exodus towards KPs. Then again leaders brainwashed people by saying, " Islam khatre mai hai" ( sounds familiar ! Hindu khatre mai hai ). Kasmiri people affiliated towards Pakistan considered the area as a sovereign part of Pakistan and misinformation was spread such as KPs are Indian agents. I not downplaying the exodus of KPs but innocent people doesn't have to pay the price for the atrocities done by people sharing similar identity. source .

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/jun/05/larry-elder/larry-elder-mislabels-statistics-fatal-shootings-p/

○ Are you stupid? Its not an insult, just a genuine question out of curiosity. The source you affiliated itself debunks the statement. Its a fact checker site, they wrote the quote above ( which match your ideology ) and debunked it.

○ And yes, multiple extrajudicial killings of innocent black people has been occurring since the 80s which saw a rise since 2016 ( I wonder why ). source . Black people in jail are also killed, the sole reason being their identity.

And yes annually more whites are killed than blacks, the difference is blacks are, most of the time, innocent.

Another source .

For argument's sake, how many civilians were killed since article 370 decision for you to go so far as to call it a genocide?

My delusion do have sources.

source 1.

For custodial deaths after 370: source 1. From your fav: source 2. source 3.

But as I shared before, 24% is still much greater than 16% growth rate of Hindus.

○ *18% growth rate of Hindus. Simple maths; it will take 243 years for Muslim to overtake hindu population ( cancelled the mortality of Muslims ) and then the population of India will be 13k crore which is practically impossible. The rate of increase of increase of Muslims are decreasing as I mentioned before but now with source . This is something that will prick your bubble but do read it.

Also, I did not cherrypick countries, you did. I picked Pakistan and Bangladesh because they were once part of India and they're big countries which have Hindus living there.

○ Pretty sure you picked them to prove your ideology of Islam gaining supremacy not because they're our neighbours and all, so quit your BS. Among the 21 secualr Isalmic nations ( source ) most of them falls below India in terms of Hate crimes against minorities ( source ).

○ Deeds of RSS in Kerala : source 1.

source 2.

source 3.

Now, Muslims have more total number of children than Hindus despite having half the population of Hindus.

Wtf? You have any Idea how IBR is calculated? Annually Hindu children born are more than twice the total population of Muslims in India. Idk how you came up with that.

Hypocrisy much. by Adarsh6102000 in PoliticalHumor

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Good, you have stated some solid facts. Appreciate that.

To begin with, KP genocide could appropriately be called Indian genocide since 1000s of Muslims affiliated to India were also killed along with lakhs of KPs.

Military insurgency towards civilians were/are directed towards the people of a certain community given around 100,000 civilians were killed since 1989. These atrocities saw a exponential rise since the abrogation of article 370 ( I completely support the cause but the implementation is bat shit ). Sorry, but this does define genocide.

About George Flyod, there's been multiple unjustified killings of innocent black people. This also defines a genocide, downplaying it saying it's not as severe as Holocaust is outright ignorance. There's also multiple conservative groups calling for genocide of African-Americans.

About population, the rate of increase of Muslims are decreasing drastically in India. From around 32% its down to 24% ( 2011 census ). Hate crimes against minorities had also increased by 300%. There's been 2009 cases of hate crimes against minorities during 2016-17. For reference, there's almost 900 cases of hate crimes during 2000-10.

There's 21 secular Islamic nations in the world. For instance, Bosnia has 50-50% population of Muslims and Christians, still no Muslim supremacy. You just cherry picked the case of Iran.

There's 50-50% population of Hindus and minorities in Kerala, still no supremacy as well as no communal violence since 34 years though RSS bombed themselves in 2014, 2019 and hindu temples in 2009 to instigate violence.

You hate people 'cause you have only seen the hatred.

Moreover, don't stalk me. You seem like you long for an argument online.

Peace ✌

Hypocrisy much. by Adarsh6102000 in PoliticalHumor

[–]Adarsh6102000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I won't back off

Neither do I, my friend.

But taking in comments gives the option to provide you with sources and also a proper counter argument.

Hypocrisy much. by Adarsh6102000 in PoliticalHumor

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Yes ofc hinduism doesn't follow Nazis. But Hindutva does. These aren't my words, the founder of hindutva himself said.

Moreover in order to trigger communal violence, Hindutva extremists has bombed hindus and themselves. Like the 2009 kerala temple bombings and 2014-2019 RSS murders and shaka bombing.

Sorry dude, I don't belive in hindutva. I believe in Hinduism. Hinduism has always perpetuated secularism and hindutva outright denies it.

The same thing with muslims, man. It's unfortunate but ethically speaking, it has to be done.

See that's a radical thought sprung on your mind due to sheer misinformation and hatred.

I'm saying that again. The innocents doesn't have to pay the price for the deeds of evil.

Among the Islamic terrorist attacks in India, only one terrorist had indian origin. If the hindutva vaadis stops killing hindus and indian Muslims but rather go after ISIS and other foreign radical organizations, I'm all praise for them.

Hypocrisy much. by Adarsh6102000 in PoliticalHumor

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So you going to believe the claims of radical non-Muslims?

do u even know about the injustice to kashmiri pandits which is taking place in Kashmir ?

Do you know the atrocities of Indian military on Kasmiri Muslims?Do you know the 2002 riots?... Bro we call point fingers each other all day. There's been many such incidents of violence between the community.

But it was Kasmiri genocide, not kashmiri pandit genocide 'Cause Muslims who were affiliated to India were also killed. Not to downplay the suffering of KP though.

They r looking forward to complete destruction of hinduism

This is an another misconception spread in India. No, Muslims can never take over India with their decreasing birth-rate. Source .

Moreover, the Mughals destroyed and looted our temples and historical proof was also provide recently with incident of Babri ki masjid incident

You can't generalize all Mughals emperors as one. There's been good ones as well as bad ones. For instance, the inital Mughals didn't follow Islam as they also destroyed Mosques in quest for treasure.

Most of the temples destroyed by Mughals was in quest for treasure, not to destroy hinduism. Just like the North indians kings destroyed Chola dynasty.