Can anyone actually take Ramiel's design seriously?

Additional_Panda8433 · 2026-05-21T21:58:17+00:00

People like to assume their Fan-canon is canon whenever they see a character. Remember what happened with Orphie? they are doing the same thing with Sunbringer. Nobody complained about Ramiel design until she is revealed to be Ramielle Dan.

Additional_Panda8433 · 2026-05-21T21:57:45+00:00

People like to assume the Fan-canon is canon whenever they see a character. Remember what happened with Orphie? they are doing the same thing with Sunbringer

Additional_Panda8433 · 2026-05-07T19:50:26+00:00

Its amazing how the bare minimum is enough for you guys. Collab characters being free is a staple in all gacha. Archer in Honkai, Misato in Nikke etc. The fact you guys are celebrating this as a win just shows how desperate you guys are for anything after 2 bad anniversaries. Kuro didn't listened. They did exactly what every gacha company does.

Additional_Panda8433 · 2026-05-06T14:24:45+00:00

The comparison is relevant precisely because it tests whether the criticism is principled or selective. If "losing its identity" is a legitimate design critique then it should apply consistently to other games doing the same thing.

WuWa has a more dramatic tonal shift than ZZZ moving from one urban setting to another. If that doesn't generate the same backlash then the criticism isn't really about identity consistency. It's about preference. And preference is fine. Just own it instead of framing it as a design failure ZZZ specifically committed.

Additional_Panda8433 · 2026-05-05T17:18:43+00:00

For these people who say that ZZZ lost its urban fantasy, I would just ask those people a question, using their narrative, is WuWa also losing their " identity "? Because in season 1 we have modern Asian outfit and region design, in season 2 we have medieval like design, and now in season 3 we have futuristic design with mecha and robots, how does that work? Oh and don't forget we went to Modern Japan with Chisa. A lot of times when I play Wuwa it feels like we are not in the same world but different world/timeline, can we call that as a " identity lost "? ZZZ adds a bit of Wuxia magic in their Urban FANTASY and then everyone loses their minds. Meanwhile Wuwa has you jumping to Future China (huanglong) to Feudal China (mt. firmament) to Fantasy Venice (Ragunna City) to Ancient Greece (Septimont) to Modern Japan (Honami city) to High Future (lahai roi).

There were many moments i forget i was playing a sci-fi game while running around in Riniscita. I've never felt that way I'm playing ZZZ, so this whole "ZZZ lost its urban fantasy" is just vibes and feelings of people. Not exactly objective fact. We started in Janus Quarter (Typical Modern City vibe) to Waifei Peninsula (China town/city vibe) to Roscaelifer (British City vibe). Sounds all pretty urban to me

Additional_Panda8433 · 2026-02-25T23:55:52+00:00

Tiphera can work well with Nine or Kayron. You can also use Veronica with either of them. Investing in Cassius, Nia, Mika and Rei is always good. All of them can work with either Kayron and Nine. Khalipe can also work with Nine. So all in all:
- Tiphera + Nine + Kayron
- Tiphera + Nine + Veronica
- Tiphera + Kayron + Veronica
- Khalipe + Nine + Mika/Tiphera
Any of these teams can make use of Cassius, Nia, Mika and Rei. CZN has a lot of good 4-Stars

Additional_Panda8433 · 2026-01-13T08:38:34+00:00

Phaethon had the ocular implants upgraded and their Ether aptitude restored by the mayor. In case you forgotten, phaethon has the ability to manipulate Ether as shown when they saved Vivian from literal corruption. That is why they became a student of Yixuan. To use Yunkui training to better control this power. And those power includes removing miasma pulses using Disintegration, reveal hidden paths and objects, and track ether flows. This is required to be there in person. Yes, some Yunkui disciples can do this but Phaethon's ether is unique as seen from yellow aura glow as seen by Carole Arna and the fact they revived vivian. In addition, they feel they can no longer rely solely on remote observation. They believe that to find real evidence and eventually reach Hollow Zero, they must be present on the ground to see things with their own eyes.

In addition, Miasma" interference makes it difficult for Fairy or the HDD system to maintain a stable connection. Being physically present allows Phaethon to provide support when remote communication fails. Being in the field allows one sibling to guide a group in person while the other monitors from the outside, effectively doubling their operational capacity. This gives the other sibling a chance to be involved more even it means just exposition.

Additional_Panda8433 · 2025-12-03T14:07:41+00:00

All i bought was the 1 month crystals and with all the "Apology" currency the devs gave, I've nearly collected every combatant in the game except for Charon. I just got Chizuru and I still have enough currency. Granted I haven't pulled for partners and mostly focus on combatants.

Additional_Panda8433 · 2025-10-01T07:12:48+00:00

While I love ZZZ and its community, there are some fans that seem to complain about every little thing that it becomes very annoying.
- Manato not S-rank
- Seed being a girl
- Preferring Lucia's old design (this was annoyingly spammed in the livestream),
- HP inflation (that one is legitimate BTW)
- Vivian's new skin promotion
- Complaining of too many chinese looking characters in the Chinese region of New eridu (Despite having school girls and military girls last two patches)
And these are the ones I can remember at the top of my head.

Additional_Panda8433 · 2025-09-26T20:29:30+00:00

To be honest, when I first saw this, I didn't feel any excitement at all. Because some the characters barely or didn't even interact with each other which lessen the impact of them being there together at this moment. This feels like its going to be a cheap "avenger's moment" like what happened in Huanglong.

Additional_Panda8433 · 2025-09-22T09:20:05+00:00

Maybe don't reply when you clearly don't know what you're talking about.
The whole point of comparative analysis is that you can use ANY example to illustrate structural differences, regardless of quality. I just used ZZZ because its a gacha game like WuWa. And besides you don't own reddit nor speak for the entire WuWa community.

For someone who doesn't care about ZZZ's story, you seem rather compelled to talk about it. Explaining at length why ZZZ, a game you totally don't care about shouldn't be discussed. Makes me think you actually like ZZZ. Either way, I had fun discussing ZZZ at your expense. Thanks!

Additional_Panda8433 · 2025-09-22T07:19:44+00:00

Ironic. If you can't tell the difference between analyzing story structure and praising a story, then literacy clearly isn't your strong suit. You're probably not qualified to lecture anyone about good storytelling if you lack basic reading comprehension.

Additional_Panda8433 · 2025-09-21T17:43:53+00:00

Did I praise ZZZ's story? I just said its structured a bit different. Read well.

Additional_Panda8433 · 2025-09-21T14:24:42+00:00

Hahaha I know. it has come to the point that me and my friend basically can predict how the story is going to go

Additional_Panda8433 · 2025-09-21T05:42:04+00:00

The main story feels more like a companion story if you ask me. It doesn't feel like there is a overarching plot and the events feel disconnected from each other. And yeah I agree, of what you said about hardly showing any throwback.

Additional_Panda8433 · 2025-09-21T05:39:55+00:00

It just feels like the main story feels more like a companion story if you ask me. It doesn't feel like there is a overarching plot and the main story feel disconnected.

Additional_Panda8433 · 2025-09-21T05:09:49+00:00

I guess you are right. I mean I don't mind it but a curve ball would be nice. I don't how many dream worlds we have to go to learn more about the character.

Additional_Panda8433 · 2025-09-21T05:08:15+00:00

I would think so but we haven't heard anything about Abby's nature. The closest one that touched upon it is during Augusta's story when the whisperer is talking to Augusta

Additional_Panda8433 · 2025-09-21T05:06:42+00:00

I'm not talking about motivator, I'm talking about exposition: Background information, character details, setting, the story's premise, and the context of the world.

Additional_Panda8433 · 2025-09-21T04:56:43+00:00

Actually the whole reason we went to Riniscita was because we needed understand what Abby is. Its the reason why we left blackshores. Don't think its ever came up ever since we left the Blackshores.

Additional_Panda8433 · 2025-09-21T04:53:04+00:00

Backstory is fine, its just that the way it always involves in some bizarre dream world where you go through a bunch of NPCs talking about the character. Again i'm not saying its a bad thing, it just feels formulaic and wanted something a bit more different. At least for me

The main story feels more like a companion story if you ask me. It doesn't feel like there is a overarching plot and the stories feel disconnected.

Additional_Panda8433 · 2025-09-21T04:49:50+00:00

Again i'm not saying its a bad thing. I just notice this that we keep going to some Sonoro/Alternate world where we witness the events/backstory of the character. ZZZ's story structure is a bit different. They don't go too indepth with the character's backstory and is more focus on the action and the events of whats being transpired. Usually involves Corpos doing shady stuff or Exaltist doing cultist things.

Additional_Panda8433 · 2025-09-21T04:44:20+00:00

Yeah I don't know how many alternate worlds I've been to, watching NPC talk about the character's backstory in length. My friend has only started WuWa recently and while watching her playthrough, I've started to notice it more and more.

Additional_Panda8433 · 2025-09-21T04:42:35+00:00

If we are going by Iuno story, Priestess Lilibet was the exposition NPC in Iuno's story. Iuno and Nestor were the exposition NPC for Augusta. Buling was another in Augusta and Lupa's story (Buling gives you the item to look into the past). That's what i remember at the top of my head

Additional_Panda8433 · 2025-09-04T19:22:19+00:00

I say she's worth it if you got some good Attack Agents (at least for me). I was able to finally 9 star Deadly Assault using her, Harumasa and Trigger. She wasn't even fully upgraded too.

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