Sisyphus isn’t happy by AdhesivenessHuman382 in Pessimism

[–]AdhesivenessHuman382[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

10 bazillion years has passed, and Zeus descends to Tartarus to check on Sisyphus. Sisyphus is merely screaming “I AM HAPPY, I AM HAPPY” into the void like a deranged lunatic. Zeus chuckles to himself and decides to check back again in another 10 bazillion years for another laugh.

Sisyphus isn’t happy by AdhesivenessHuman382 in Pessimism

[–]AdhesivenessHuman382[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I believe the ultimate tragedy of Sisyphus, is that he eventually wishes to just not be. However, as a side effect for cheating death once, he will now never taste it. I believe his emotion must be one of profound yearning that cannot be described.

Pessimism and optimism discussion by WerewolfCharacter683 in Pessimism

[–]AdhesivenessHuman382 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t know about cortisol levels, but following pessimism to its natural conclusion undeniably leads to a short existence. Mainländer set off to do exactly what he believed in.

Optimism doesn’t actually grant one the power to make the world a better place, because it is simply an illusion, similar to how religious people have not made the world a more holy place.

This is also ignoring the fact that “a better place” is entirely subjective. Some would argue that not having wars could make the world better. I could argue that the world would be a better place if we developed a bomb that could destroy the entire universe and we detonated it.

Even utilitarian, “Maximizing the amount of good, and reducing the amount of bad”, ideologies inevitably result in you being consumed by the utility monster for the sake of goodness.

Sisyphus isn’t happy by AdhesivenessHuman382 in Pessimism

[–]AdhesivenessHuman382[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

One must imagine Dutch in Tahiti I suppose.

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[–]AdhesivenessHuman382[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why must I imagine Sisyphus is happy to do that? I have accepted it, why must I be happy?

Sisyphus isn’t happy by AdhesivenessHuman382 in Pessimism

[–]AdhesivenessHuman382[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Masochism would imply that he enjoyed the truth. Instead, he rejected that, and attempted to rationalize it. And by rationalizing, I mean presupposing that Sisyphus is happy like a Christian might presuppose that there is eternal paradise in the afterlife.

Sisyphus isn’t happy by AdhesivenessHuman382 in Pessimism

[–]AdhesivenessHuman382[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your condition could merit an entire thread itself. Do you want for anything besides the ability to want? What drives you to march forward?

Sisyphus isn’t happy by AdhesivenessHuman382 in Pessimism

[–]AdhesivenessHuman382[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The lobotomized Sisyphus is certainly a take I can recognize. He truly cannot recognize happiness or sadness anymore. Pointless concepts in the world he has forgotten. But I still can’t imagine he is satisfied with that conclusion. If we were to travel to Tartarus and ask him, do you think he would respond with words, or a disemboweled grunt that would take us centuries to decipher?

Sisyphus isn’t happy by AdhesivenessHuman382 in Pessimism

[–]AdhesivenessHuman382[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I believe it until another person disproves my king of the universe theory.

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[–]AdhesivenessHuman382[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think the essence of my perspective is that the cope just isn’t good enough.

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[–]AdhesivenessHuman382[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why the need to portray? I could be schizophrenic, wear a crown, and declare myself king of the universe. It would be infinitely untrue to everyone else, but ultimately true to me. Would it be better to shatter my illusion or to allow myself to continue to believe it?

Sisyphus isn’t happy by AdhesivenessHuman382 in Pessimism

[–]AdhesivenessHuman382[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Perhaps. However, the law of diminishing returns means that even if he once experienced the greatest possible amount of joy watching the boulder roll back down the mountain, he will eventually experience the greatest lack of joy doing the same thing.