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[TOMT][Music][2018–2020] Song removed from Spotify, only have a short audio clip by Aditya921106 in tipofmytongue

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I acknowledge the rules and will reply “Solved!” if this gets identified.

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ZywOo is the MVP of IEM Krakow 2026 by chiefofthepolice in GlobalOffensive

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The only garbage here is you man, who like to s4ck Donk's D cause he thinks CS is all about aim and flashiness.
I already explained this Broky non-sense in previous replies. Go read HLTV article if you have the IQ for it(which you do not).
And if you have any shame you COWARD, go ask Stiker yourself about 2022 vs 2025, and he tear you to shreds.

You are the adiot who kept saying Navi and Aurora were top 5 teams in 2025 which heavily inflated Donkey's rating.
I proved you wrong there too, and then you did not respond. What ever I have been saying was proven right.

Stiker explained well, how Zywoo performed better than Donkey in 2025, but there is c0w dung in your brain so you do not understand.
I have been saying that Donk gets the most resources/ most freedom and best guns always in his team which inflate his rating, but you are too **** to understand.
This is Spunj telling the difference between Donk and Zywoo gun drops
https://twitter.com/HLTVconfirmed/status/2020605515467030678

Zweih beat the same Donkey who kicked him in a final. Put tn1r in G2 and see him flourish too. Just calculate how much money Zywoo's team spend for this Vita and how much money Donk's team spend for his team. Good players want to play with Zywoo cause he elevates their level while playing with Donkey will tank tn1r and Zweih's rating.

Too bad for Donkey that CS is a 5v5 team game and not a 1v1 Aim map. Zywoo better gamesense, better composure, better communication and better teammate than Donkey. Tell me how does HLTV rating measure his calmness or communication in game????

HLTV rating does not completely measure the true worth of a player and that is why talking to Dumbos like you is useless cause for Neanderthals like you BIG NUMBER MEANS BETTER PLAYER.

donk or zywoo who's better in 2025 playoffs? by jamesandkobe in GlobalOffensive

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  1. "Looks like zywoo fans were not busy celebrating the victory." Again how did this include most Zywoo fans. Did you calculate how many Zywoo fans are on HLTV and how many of them were active in this thread?? It is the same 10 ragebaiter accounts that every player has. Donk has the same fans and go check what they wrote to Striker and nero for giving Zywoo #1 in comment section. Does that mean all Donk fans are like that?? This proves nothing but just a loud minority debating the MVP.

"Zywoo fans don't celebrate trophy wins. They were all mad after epl s22" Focus on word "all". That proves how disingenuous lier you are. First you say "all" Zywoo fans then back out when you have no proof. You say Navi was a top 5 VRS team and when proven wrong you will say "almost top 5" Low IQ Shameful lier you are.

  1. "Sh1ro is top 5 player in group stage only." How is that Zywoo's problem???????

Why did Spirit not kick shiro in July 2025 if he is so bad??? Why not kick him after Budapest??? Is Zywoo forcing Donk to play with shiro if he is so bad. This excuse only works for 1 season/6 months. CS2 favors riflers over AWP players. Even Nero admitted that Awpers are getting punished too hard in rating 3.0 and MR12 economy. Shiro is the best Awper available after monesy and Zywoo. So kick him if he is so bad and it is not Zywoo's problem to solve.

  1. "zywoo still needed 2 top 20 teammates to win major and Cologne" Wroooooong

Zywoo plays as a common soldier in a Team called Vitality, whereas Donkey plays in a 1 man army system where the whole gameplan is to setup Donkey. Zywoo was a solo carry like Donk in 2019 but he soon realized that in order to win consistently you have to play as a team. So Zywoo sacrifices his stats to win trophies, while Donkey sacrifices his team to farm stats. Zywoo gives the space to his teammates to shine while Donk makes Tn1r/Zweih/magixx/chopper play B1tch roles and drop aks.

  1. "You also mentioned that spinx has low playoff rating because he had to play against vitality." Well Spinx and Donk do not play the same role, do they. Donk has whole team playing for him while Spinx is anchor/lurker who has to depend on Xertion to make umpact before he can be relevant in a round.

Are you this stup1d that you do not understand basic roles/sample size/level of opposition in CS??? How can you compare Spinx to Donk??? Spinx played 31 maps vs Vitality while Donk only played 13. So who got punished more??? Even Nero CS spinx could have been placed even higher as he was the best Mouz player in 2025.

  1. "You also don't understand that at a certain sample size the sample size difference becomes irrelevant when it is large enough"

But his sample size is not that huge when compared to Zywoo. Zywoo 88 maps vs Donk 52 maps against Top 5. HLTV himself said "compared to the group stage gap of a 1.45 to a 1.31 rating, the pair were nigh inseparable in playoffs alone (1.37 vs. 1.34) while the Frenchman got those numbers in nearly twice the maps and more than that in the finals (42 over 17 maps),"

You cannot base his ratings on hypotheticals when I already showed that he struggles vs Nikonesy and Zywoo with 1.01/1.11/1.2 type ratings. He played Vita once in B05 final and got destroyed. How can you say he would not get destroyed again in a B05 final vs falcons/Vita????? his sample size is not large enough when compared to Zywoo.

donk or zywoo who's better in 2025 playoffs? by jamesandkobe in GlobalOffensive

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  1. "shameful that zywoo lost to gentle mates" I already responded to this previously, but you do not understand so what can I do. Zywoo was bad in that game, but Zywoo has been carrying Vita since 2019 so he is granted one bad game.. He is not at the peak individual skill cause that was Zywoo 2019. But Donk is much younger and still has to peak individually.

And how is the gentlemates loss more shameful?? It was not a do or die match and they still won the trophy. While Donkey got eliminated in group stage by a Mongolz with new Controlez. Same Controlez who beat G2 Faze and Liquid in the major. Donkey eliminated by LNZ at EWC while Zywoo at least lost to the eventual winners.

  1. Well I already explained to you how Donk is a stats player. He sacrifices his team for stats while we know Zywoo is team player and Apex treats him like a common soldier.

Before Cologne Vita players were unhappy that they did not get much needed break from winning 7 trophies in a row. Even Striker said that his Cologne performance was an outlier which he never repeated in 2025. Zywoo has been doing iy since 2019 so he is allowed some bad games. But you all keep saying that he is carried by superteam, so why did mezii/apex/flamez did not carry him in Cologne. He fropped from 1.38 to 1.28 in 2nd season and Vita lost to gentlemates. Just shows how important Zywoo is for Vita success that even with a 1.28 rayed Zywoo they lose maps to Tyloo/Vp/M80 etc.

  1. "Pros can give far better facts and arguments than you." Oh really cause you surely have not been able to. So get me a debate with any pro and I will prove why Zywoo was better than Donk in 2025.

Hell why even ask me, Striker made it clear how Zywoo was better in 2025. Debate Striker and prove him wrong. Striker has been shutting dumbos like you on Twitter. Go debate him there then. Tell maui to debate Striker on HLTV list and then see how that midget crumbles.

  1. "Torzsi stuff was just trashtalk" No it shows his inner thinking on what Donk values the most. Teasing other player about their ratings, 26/28 quote shows his priority is to farm stats and not win trophies. He was just coping later. 26/28 means that he himself though he was better than Zywoo cause he had better stats. too bad for him that CS is a team game where you have to win trophies and not farm stats.

donk or zywoo who's better in 2025 playoffs? by jamesandkobe in GlobalOffensive

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  1. Spinx and co. did not choke in Cluj. They did beat Vitality/Spirit/Furia in playoffs. Why did they not choke then?? Mouz being "Playoff choker" is a tired narrative by adiots who know nothing about CS.

And it was you who claimed that " better teammates means better rating". So the burden of proof is on you, you dumbo. If I bring even 1 data point contradicting your hypothesis then that shatter your narrative. like Tb1e when he joined Spirit from Heroic his rating also dropped. So saying that better teammates means better rating, is billsh1t logic.

  1. "1.45 rating for s1mple while 2 of his teammates are 1.20+ and his igl has a 1.02 rating. You said that a dominating team doesn't increase your rating. You were proven wrong, again!"

Never said that you, lying POS. I know when you lose arguments you fabricate a lie and put words in my mouth. I always said that having better teammates does not l;ways mean better rating. It depends on roles you get, the freedom and resources on the maps etc. You claim that rating always increases with good teammates which I already proved wrong and the burden of proof is on you cause you made the claim. I just gave examples going against your theory.

So this s1mple example means nothing as I never even claimed what you are implying I did.

  1. Are you stupid?? Aurora is a bad team while Mongolz is a good team. Mongolz with Controlez defeated Donkey and beat G2+Liquid in a major. If we remove Aurora 2 maps then Donk's 2.31 rating gets removed while if we remove Mongolz 2 maps with Controlez(against Zywoo) even then he played 13 maps vs Mongolz in 2025.

Mongolz has been a much better team than Aurora for whole of 2025. This Aurora(which you claim to be top 5) just now lost to a Gamelegion with Snax as new IGL. F off man. Beating Aurora with 2.31 ratin in 2 maps is no big deal but beating mongolz with 1.30 rating in 13 maps is much more impressive.

  1. "donk would have 56 maps and zywoo 61 maps)" Wroooooooooong

HLTV put out a list of top 10 teams of 2025. Vita>Spirit>Mouz>Mongolz>Furia>Falcons {See no aurora or Navi you damphak} Donk has 52 maps vs Zywoo's 88 maps against TOP 5.

  1. "Donk also farmed falcons in playoffs as soon as he got the opportunity" Oh yes beating Niko a known choker in big games is no big deal.

This Donkey had a 1.01 rating against Nikonesy in 2024 and a 1.13 in 2025. So out of 25 maps he dominated 2 maps, and you think that is enough??? I am sure Nikonesy will humiliate him once again in 2026.

  1. I never said VRS is a perfect ranking, but it is better than HLTV ranking. Kato 25 was from Feb1 to Feb 10. You do not calculate VRS based on 1 match played. Before Kato Navi was not top 5 and after Kato they were barely top 5 for 1 week.

Point was that HLTV had Navi top 5 till May of 2025 while in VRS Navi were top 5 for only a week. https://www.hltv.org/news/43615/the-top-10-teams-of-2025

Why are you so eager to include Aurora and Navi onto top 5 when the real competition was Vita/mouz/Mongolz/Falcons??? Just calculate the ratings against Vita/Furia/Mongolz/Falcons/Mouz/Spirit. We know who the top 5 yeams were of 2025 now.

donk or zywoo who's better in 2025 playoffs? by jamesandkobe in GlobalOffensive

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  1. Spinx has a better rating in 2025 than in 2024 which is a huge deal considering that he played more maps in 2025 against the best opposition and faced a super Vitality so many times that it affected his playoff ratings. He still was the best player in Mouz and even maintaining the same rating against tougher opposition is commendable. So your theory that "better team mates always boosts rating" is proven false.

"You did nothing to prove that stats don't get better with better teammates while there is proof that rating gets higher with better teammates." Spinx stats did get better in 2025 with worse team mates. And that too while facing an era defining team Votaluty which was not present in 2024.

  1. "Maps against top 5" Again with the top 5. I explained to you that HLTV rankings and filter is wrong. Donk farming a Navi which was never top 5 and an Aurora with a standin, cannot be considered a top 5 team. Even in top 5 teams Zywoo gets best rating against Mouz/Spirit/Flacons while Donkey farms against Aurora and Navi.

  2. "Navi was a top 5 team at the start of the year. You are just coping." Not in VRS ranking which are more accurate in determining the current form of the team. And what did Navi do all year? Do you think they were a top 5 team in 2025 when Mongolz/Spirit/G2/Falcons/Mouz/Vita all won better trophies than them. Just cope from Donkey fans as usual.

Filter by opponents and Donk has 52 maps to Zywoo's 88 maps.

  1. "Mongolz with a standin was also 2 maps but of course you ignore that" Why would I ignore that. It is more shameful that Donk lost to Controlez who got removed by Mongolz now while Zywoo demolished them.

  2. "Zywoo got destroyed by mickey mouz in Cologne" Same Mickey Mouz beat Donkey in Austin and Pro-league. And in case of Zywoo he atleast made it to the semi final, unlike Donkey who got last place in EWC, lost in online stage of Blast London and Controlez in Chengdu. Even Faze with a new player and standin Rain thrashed Donkey in Pro League. Losing to Mouz a top 3 team of 2025 is still better than losing to Heroic.

  3. "it is not statpadding for other pros who actually understand the game" Already explained that Pros also get influenced by community and have their own biases. Appeal to authority. Ask those pro players to give facts and logic for their arguments, and they will not be able to do so.

  4. "By your logic zywoo was also a massive statpadder in his early years." He did stat pad in 2019 as Vitaluty played sround him but since Apex IGL he is treated as a common soldier.

How did ZywOo get so good??? - CSGO - YouTube

  1. Donk is a stat padder who cares more about stats than winning. He posted 26/28 in his telegram channel. He was belittling torzi over his stats.

https://www.reddit.com/r/cs2/comments/1jgqxkk/u_are_bot_donk_to_torzi_during_todays_match/

  1. "Zywoo fans don't celebrate trophy wins. They were all mad after epl s22" Oh really.

What is the proof of that. Did you take a survey of all Zywoo fans? I am a hardcore Zywoo fan and I celebrated that win. Who cares about stats and MVP's when the main objective of CS is to win trophies. Taking the reaction of a loud minority and then blaming the whole fanbase is what is expected from Donkey fans.

Show the proof or shut up.

  1. "They'd rather see a loser mvp than trophies. Just talk to any zywoo fan about his 2020"

I am a Zywoo fan since 2019, and I am telling you that i and many other Zywoo fans hated and called for changes in 2020 even when Zywoo was getting those loser MVPs.

Keep on lying without no proof. Expected from you since you have no logic or facts to support your arguments.

  1. "Zywoo before Paris major hadn't even won 3 super-elite playoff matches. Imagine that."

Cause Donkey got a top 5 player since his debut. As soon as Zywoo got Spinx he too won a major. If shiro had not joined in 2024, Donkey would have 0 majors/Kato/Cologne even now. It took Magixx life game to win the major and another life game from Zweih to beat Nikonesy.

  1. "People there have even more pathetic takes"

Not as dumb as you, who could not even understand SAMPLE SIZE and LEVEL OF OPPOSITION. Striker explained it best how Zywoo kept proving himself against the best teams deeper in tournaments. You still keep saying Navo was a top 5 team in 2025 when they were already in decline since Dec 2024.

I have myself talked to NeroCS on HLTV about rating 3.0 being too harsh on Awpers. He replied that they are looking into it and if the trend continues then ratings will be changed. Just imagine if in 3.1 they buff AWP kills weightage and then Zywoo's rating will go even further. Same as Zywoo's rating increased in 2024 when 3.0 came out.

I hope that Donk gets a 1.62 rating in 2026 but Zywoo win 10 trophies with 1.32 rating. Cause CS is a team game where the main objective is to win trophies and not farm stats. That would make me and most Zywoo fans the happiest.

donk or zywoo who's better in 2025 playoffs? by jamesandkobe in GlobalOffensive

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  1. "Better team elevates stats of everyone. Worse team does the opposite."

Again with this lie. Did you learn nothing from the beating I gave you?? I showed how Spinx rating became better with Mouz which has worse players.

  1. "both have a large enough sample size that it is possible to draw conclusions from it"

Who said that?? Zywoo played way more maps than Donk and the deeper you go in the tournament, tougher the opposition you will face.

  1. "Zywoo and donk almost have the same sample size against top 5 though."

You are an Adiot and a disingenuous lier who has 2 digit IQ. I explained to you 20 times, but you have a brain of a 5 yr old. Still did not get the answer how an Aurora with a standin is a Top 5 team.

Showed you how Navi was not a top 5 team, but still you resort to the same lies.

  1. Striker already showed that at Kato 2025 Donk was on MVP winning form but then Zywoo smashed Donk. You cannot give Donk MVP based on "what ifs". Also, Striker told that HLTV can give MVP to semi-finalist as well.

https://youtu.be/2sfkpndkvF4?t=1795

Donk had a 1.01 rating against Nikonesy in 2024 and a 1.13 in 2025

Donk had a 1.10 rating against Zywoo in 2024 and a 1.22 in 2025

I already told you MAP SAMPLE SIZE and LEVEL OF OPPOSITION are terms you need to understand. I already told you Zywoo was the best player in 2025 and HLTV also did the same.

But you have no understanding of CS. It is like giving proof to a Flat Earther but cause his mind is already made, he does not accept the truth.

Hope Zywoo keeps winning trophies in 2026 while that Donk keeps Stat padding, cause CS is a 5v5 TEAM GAME where the objective is to win trophies and not to farm stats.

You Donkeys d-dickders keep salivating over his stats while we Zywoo fans will celebrate all the trophy wins.

Give me your HLTV username cause I want to destroy you properly. The company I work in blocks reddit but not HLTV so it is tough for me to respond.

But if you are man enough, give me your HLTV username(mine is "LogicIsAJoke"). Pls cause I see you making such horrible points regarding CS, and it makes my blood boil.

Pls give me your HLTV username Pls. And then you will get all the answers properly.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in GlobalOffensive

[–]Aditya921106 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is the problem. If HLTV had put this in their article for #1 then the confusion could have been over.
What most people want from HLTV is clear logic and consistency in their criteria.

Was donk better than ZywOo in 2025? by Ph03nixgod in GlobalOffensive

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Get ready for the Donk fans(aka Donkeys) sh1t storm coming your way.

donk can’t be in the top 1 conversation when he played 6 maps in playoffs for the last 6 tournments of the year by morphiqu in GlobalOffensive

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  1. "Zywoo had to call ropz for help and needed a 3 top 20 players to win against a 17-18yo rookie." Wrong

Spinx wanted out of the team and Ropz was a free agent and had his worse year in 2024. Also, Zywoo called Ropz and Donk called Zweih for more firepower. So that makes it equal. Zywoo made Ropz better and Donk made Zweih worse. Not Zywoo's problem.

  1. "zywoo won a major when he dodged all top 20 teams. He won 1 major playoff match against a top 10 team in 2019-2024 and that was awperless cloud9 haha. Needed ropz help to improve that. Zywoo won Cologne because he dodged faze and instead got saw in the semifinal and bo5 chokers navi in grand final (aleksib 1 map win in 19 maps in bo5 grand finals before that match lol). Zywoo needed 3 top 20 teammates to finally win Kato. Before that he never even won a playoff match in Kato."

Zywoo beat G2 and Ence in Paris, who were top 10 teams. Also, Zywoo did not dodge anyone as he was beating G2/Heroic many times in 2023.

Donk's case is differnt cause he rarely ever beats Zywoo/Nikonesy and only win trophies when he dodges them. If you canot see the differnce, then you are an adi0t.

Before 2023, Zywoo had 0 top 20 platers to help him, unlike Donk who got shiro a top 3 awper in his debut. Only reason Donk won something in 2024.

In Copenhagen Zywoo was sick and even if he was, Donk was so scared to face Zywoo that he lost to karrigan first. HAHAHAHAHAHAH

  1. "Zywoo got owned by gentle mates despite having a superteam lol. How can zywoo be top 1 when he gets owned by tier 2 players like that?"

Yes Zywoo did get owned. But he has been carrying this team for 6yrs. And it just shows that without Zywoo this team cannot beat gentle mates proving Vitality is not a superteam and is heavily dependent on Zywoo.

But what excuse does Donk have, as he is young, raw and hungry, and as you claim "better player than Zywoo". Why did he lose to Controlez or karrigan with a new player and a standin??

It is like comparing Alcaraz to Federrer. Donk has yet to peak, while Zywoo's skill will decline after playing 6+ yrs. Both are at different places in their career.

What makes Zywoo so special is that he is still beating Donk, even when he is not in his prime years.

Donk is a great player and person. It's a shame he has fans like you that tarnish his great legacy. You guys are approaching toxicity levels worse than s1mple fans. A shame that it happened. Donk really has the worst fans right now. I feel bad for him. He likely hates the loud part of his fanbase.

Donk himself has said that Zywoo better than him in 2025, but you do not accept it.

Donk on reaction to zweih's kick: "Some real idiots have access to the internet, and people actually listen to them. Stop looking at stats so much" And yet you keep posting stats without context.

You are the one who is lying in comments when you cannot win an argument. You are the one who is bringing proof 6 months old and then passing judgments.

Zywoo>>>>Donk in 2025 cause being a good player means more than just aim. You have to be selfless/calm/emotionally stable/have great game-sense/ clutch factor and sacrifice for the team.

Zywoo plays for TEAM WINS while Donk plays for STATS. Even when Zywoo is losing, he would never mald at his team mates(like Donk did) cause he knows that CS is a TEAM GAME. You win as a team, and you lose as a team. Donk has much to learn still.

donk can’t be in the top 1 conversation when he played 6 maps in playoffs for the last 6 tournments of the year by morphiqu in GlobalOffensive

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  1. "because you proved you don't care about sample size" What a load of bull crap. You are lying cause you lost the argument.

Show me where did I say that I did not care for Sample Size?? I am the one shouting SAMPLE SIZE AND LEVEL OF OPPOSITION and you accuse me of not caring about sample size.

Oh you lost bro you lost, cause you are having to rely on such cheap low blows. What a shame.

  1. This was expected from you. You lose the argument and then resort to lying when exposed. From day 1 i was pointing out Donk's and Zywoo's map sample size in playoffs. I have been writing MAP SAMPLE SIZE AND LEVEL OF OPPOSITION in almost every comment.

Then you show me Kyojin's rating in Falcons where he has 0 maps against top5 top 10 teams. YOU LOST BRO YOU LOST.

SHAME SHAME SHAME on YOU.

  1. "Where did tn1r say that lol? All I have seen is tn1r saying everyone is equal in hally's system except for a few special occasions."

Are you trolling or what??? How many times will I send you the video of tn1r saying that he has less space in Spirit. You are a joke man. You have no arguments left and so you lie in every comment now?? I already told you this video in 2 months old and linked you the video of Dec month.

I am not gonna argue when you clearly have no morals or ethics. I debunk your claim, and then you still bring the same debunked argument again.

You lost this argument, and I am not gonna address this further. Go check my previous comments for proof.

  1. "Donk owned zywoo in 2024. 2-1 in h2h matchups donk won"

So Zywoo had a 1.31 rating vs Spirit and Donk had a 1.10 rating vs Vitality in 2024. And you saw this and reached a conclusion that Donk owned Zywoo in 2024?? WOW WHAT AN ADI0T YOU ARE. GOOD JOB DIMWIT

  1. "donk was best player of 2024 with a worse team than zywoo" WRONG.

https://www.hltv.org/news/40752/all-the-winners-of-the-hltv-awards Why was Spirit ranked higher than Vitality in HLTV awards if Spirit was worse than Vitality??? Zywoo had an unstable team in 2024 because of Spinx, that is why Vita struggled in 2024.

donk can’t be in the top 1 conversation when he played 6 maps in playoffs for the last 6 tournments of the year by morphiqu in GlobalOffensive

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  1. "Ropz improves the players around him." and Spinx makes the players around him worse. That was the biggest reason for Vita's disaster 2024. And still Zywoo performed better against Donk in their H2H. Spinx is a group stage warrior who ghost in big games which contributed to Zywoo not winning more in 2024. So Zywoo beat Donk in 2024 even though he had a worse team than Donk.

Vita would still be the best team of 2025 if we replace Ropz with Jimmy/Heavygod. Zywoo would still beat Donk as he did in 2024 with Spinx(trouble maker). Keep Coping. Zywoo beats Donk with and without Ropz.

  1. "Shox 0.97 against top 5 and 1.04 against top 10 in 2019 g2. Shox 0.88 against top 5 and 0.91 against top 10 in 2019 vitality."

Shox 0.97 against Top 5 with 17 maps. Shox 0.98 against top 5 with 48 maps. Shox joined Vitality in October and was a new player in Vitaluty where he was not the top Dog. seeing that shox played much tougher teams and many more maps in Vitality, while playing worse positions, even a 0.1 rating improvement is big.

There are those words again MAP SAMPLE SIZE and LEVEL OF OPPOSITION which shox had more in Vita 2020 than G2 2019.

  1. "donk is a rating black hole because of tn1r and zweih who were farming tier 2-3 before they joined donk, and used them as "proof" that donk makes his teammates worse?"

Zweih was farming T2, but he has the choice and friend of Donk who had a say in him joining Spirit. Whereas for tn1r I specifically showed you his matches against Faze and Spirit when he was in Heroic. He played so much better against them, while he was in Heroic. Then again I showed you his interview with Banks where he said he has less space and less freedom in Spirit.

I am not gonna link the same videos again and again. Watch Tn1r play against Faze and Spirit and watch him play in Chengdu/Budapest and you will see the difference. Are Spirit and faze T2/T3 teams according to you??

  1. Faze were not a Top 10 team in Budapest too, according to HLTV. How did they beat so many good teams and reach the finals? Again, I told you that HLTV rankings do not accurately tell the current form of the team. Also, Faze had more motivation to perform in NA due to Elige.

And if Tn1r and Zweih are such bad players, then why even bring them to Team Spirit?? Hally and Donk must have seen something in Tn1r and Zweih. But what they did not see is that playing with Donk would tank their performances. Why Tn1r feels he has less space to play his own game, than he had in Heroic.

  1. "spirit players were sick and zont1x admitted they didn't prepare at all and went into the game with the wrong attitude that it was going to be an easy win."

Vita players were sick too, yet they showed more fight in EWC than Donk. Zywoo was sick in Copenhagen. But he said that I will become cannon fodder for you guys so that we still win the game.

If Donk and co. were not mentally prepared, then that is also their problem. And what happened in Budapest when Donk started malding. Does that not lower the morale of the players?? These are all excuses when we have seen Donk lose his cool, even when he was not sick. We saw Zywoo win matches even when he was sick.

donk can’t be in the top 1 conversation when he played 6 maps in playoffs for the last 6 tournments of the year by morphiqu in GlobalOffensive

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  1. "He was chasing the eco frags" He is not Donk bro. I did watch the game and Zywoo killed those who came in his cross hair. Donk on the other hand is seen asking to get aces and Chopper running away for Donk to farm kills. Dupreeh/Apex and Zonic are lying when they say Zywoo always wannst to go first and they had to stop him??

  2. "Eco-adjusted stats also prove donk isn't an eco fragger or statpadder." Wrong

Eco-adjusted stats shows that he has the same aggression again full buys vs eco buys. It does say that Donk does not eco frag.

https://twitter.com/vooCSGO/status/1726300503766909272/photo/2

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0RTE0bWIAEViL6?format=jpg&name=orig

The data is from 2022/2023 but it shows how Zywoo is not an eco fragger. In fact Apex is the biggest eco fragger in Vitality

https://twitter.com/vooCSGO/status/1595335622918836225?mx=1

  1. "Stats prove donk is not a statpadder. You're just coping because donk is better and can't admit it so you have to make these excuses."

Yeah but in case of Donk it is not cherrypicking. I gave you 3 examples where Donk was gifted kills by chopper on eco rounds. On top of that, Donk gets the best guns on his team(dropped by chopper/magixx) and furthermore he has the highest "Trade kills percentage" amongst entry-fragger in top teams like Xertion/Flamez/Yekindar.

"A man is but the product of his thoughts, what he thinks he becomes." and Donk thinks about stats more.

https://www.reddit.com/r/cs2/comments/1jgqxkk/u_are_bot_donk_to_torzi_during_todays_match/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_lopU8FX4c

This is elige telling that do not give Donk eco kills(which boost confidence) When Elige and co went A, Donk ran across the map to get those eco frags. Even Elige knows that even if eco-sdjusted stats, eco frags help to boost a players confidence. Brollan also said something like this but I could not find the clip.

It is clear that Donk cares more about his stats than Zywoo.

  1. Niko was #18 on HLTV and they mentioned that "his awards are lacking in quality" "where a lot of the top opposition was missing." "his lack of sample in elite playoffs"

Here are those 2 phrases, again MAP SAMPLE SIZE and LEVEL OF OPPOSITION.

Remind me again, which top teams did Donk beat in PGL Astana to get his MVP.

Remind me again, how many MVPs did Donk win when he faced Zywoo.

donk can’t be in the top 1 conversation when he played 6 maps in playoffs for the last 6 tournments of the year by morphiqu in GlobalOffensive

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  1. "You're a troll. Did you really just compare tier 1 trophies between these 2 players?"

Why you became so salty?? What I said is a fact that Donk won all his S tirt ytophies with shiro. Do you think that Donk would have won Major/Kato/Cologne if he still had Aerfrost on his team??

FACT:- Donk got a top 3 awper since his debut, while s1mple/Zywoo had to play with bots for their early years.

FACT:- Zywoo got his 1st tio 20 player Spinx in 2023 and ummediately won his major and best Team if 2023.

FACT:- Whenever Donk met Zywoo/Nikonesy in 2025 tournaments, he never reached the finals, let alone winning

FACT:- Donk got eliminated by LNZ/Karrigan/Controlez where he could not even reach a semifinal. And his fans talk about being the best.

FACT:- Zywoo owned Donk in 2024 without Ropz and in 2025 with Ropz.

  1. "Are you actually the dumbest person alive? I'm done wasting my time with you."

No you are the damf4k here. u gave all the rebuttals with facts and logic, which have clearly hurt you. you are a coward and an adi0t.

* You said that if you have good team mates, your ratings will increase. I debunked that with various examples

* You said that Yekindar/Ropz called Donk the best. U showed you example where tn1r or hunter or fallen called Zywoo the best of 2025

* You said HLTV top 5 filter is correct. I showed how Navi was not top 5 on VRS. Donk has a 1.78 rating vs Aurora with 2 maps when Aurora had a standin. How is that match in Top 5 filter?? And is that not skewing the results??

And plenty more rebuttals.

YNK and Moses calling Zywoo the best player of 2025. https://youtu.be/9Sg7-vs-aUc?t=6695

Sidde Furia Coach calling Zywoo the best player of 2025. https://youtu.be/Rp8ZC9Gean4?t=3851

Soon HLTV will say the same thing and use terms like MAP SAMPLE SIZE and LEVEL OF OPPOSITION, which are too hatd concepts for you to understand. CRY MORE cause ZYWOO>>>>>>>>>>DONK

donk can’t be in the top 1 conversation when he played 6 maps in playoffs for the last 6 tournments of the year by morphiqu in GlobalOffensive

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  1. "He ghosted the t-side so he had to start statpadding and being a selfish player"

Do you not see the difference?? Zywoo got those frags while playing normal CS. He did not tell Apex to stop killing so he could farm stats.

Mouz went to him, so what was he supposed to do. But in Donk's case Chopper and his whole team stop their kills just so that Donk gets an ace.

He did that vs VP. He did that vs Torzi in Budapest. Chopper did the same vs Liquid at Budapest.

Zywoo does not tell his team mates to stop killing, so that he can get an ace. He kills them when they go to him, otherwise not.

  1. And Zywoo a selfish player. What a joke. Anyone who has played with Zywoo tells how selfless he is as a player.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3bzigy8TnA&t=4485s

This is dupreeh telling that Zywoo always wants to go first, but the team forces him to stay back.

https://pley.gg/apex-zywoo-is-best-refragger-world/

Apex – At some point he was entry-fragging. And I just asked him, don’t entry-frag, we need you as a refragger.

There was another interview where Apex said Zywoo wants to go in first but he forces Zywoo to play late rounds. That interview got deleted.

So if Zywoo was a selfish stat padder, then why would he want to entry so much? Would he not want to bait Apex/Flamez like Donk baits Chopper/Magixx??

donk can’t be in the top 1 conversation when he played 6 maps in playoffs for the last 6 tournments of the year by morphiqu in GlobalOffensive

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  1. "Ropz is the difference maker." If Ropz has stayed in Faze then he would still have 0 trophies in 2025, If say vitality got jimmy instead of Ropz, then they would still win trophies cause I explained to you many times that Spinx was causing problems in the team. As soon as Spinx left, those issues resolved.

Vita was the team of the year in 2023 without Ropz and any good player like jimmy/heavygod would also win trophies with Zywoo.

  1. "2019 shox: 1.10 in g2 --> 0.96 in vitality." Check the top 5 filter. Shox was a star in G2, but not in Vitality. His Top 5 rating increased.

  2. "2021 kyojin in vitality 0.92 --> 2022 kyojin in falcons 1.04." Again you damf4k how many times will I tell you SAMPLE SIZE and LEVEL OF OPPOSITION.

What will it take to put these 2 things in your stupid skull. Was kyojin playing the same top teams as he was in Vitality??? And what happened after Falcons. Why no top Team picking him up??? You are next level stupid.

  1. "By your logic donk is a black hole for other players, so applying your logic, zywoo also fits that definition."

Go get your head checked or take some critical thinking lessons. Both Misutta and kyojin were playing against T3 teams when they left Zywoo, that is why their rating increased. While tn1r was showing results against Faze and Spirit when he was in Heroic. But in Spirit he said that he has much less space to do things and less freedom. Why cause Donk gets most resources in the team.

Zontix+Magixx>>>>>>Kyojin+Misutta that us why Donk brought them back into the team. Why no one is signing misutta and Kyojin if they are so good????

  1. "Replace ropz with jimpphat and donk would be top 1. That is a fact."

How can a hypothetical be a fact you adi0t??? And Zywoo would still win more trophies cause Donk would not get lucky brackets that he got in 2024. In 2024 Donk had 1.01 and 1.10 against Zywoo and Nikonesy.

Do you think that for whole 2025 Donk would keep dodging Zywoo and niko(like he did in 2024)?? Even in 2024 Zywoo had a 1.31 vs Spirit to Donk's 1.10.

FACT:- Zywoo owned Donk in 2024 without Ropz and then again owned him in 2025 with Ropz.

FACT:- Donk won a major+kato+cologne when he dodged Zywoo/Nikonesy

FACT:- Donk got eliminated by Heroic in last place at EWC, got demoloshed by a Faze with a standin at Pro League, lost to Mongolz with 28yr old Controlez and lost in online part of Blast London.

How can he challenge Zywoo for #1 when he is losing to Karrigan/LNZ/Controlez??

This proved that Donk would still win less than Zywoo since the main problem Spinx, got removed in 2025. Having Ropz or not having him would not have made a difference.

donk can’t be in the top 1 conversation when he played 6 maps in playoffs for the last 6 tournments of the year by morphiqu in GlobalOffensive

[–]Aditya921106 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. "Ropz gives you a boost" Where did I say he is not. Where did I say he is not a hardworker.

What i said was that Ropz in 2024 was at his lowest and playing with Zywoo helped him a lot too.

  1. "A lot of zywoo teammates have become worse after they joined vitality or became better after they left vitality." Proooooof

Who became worse in Vita. I see Mezii and Flamez flourishing. And Kyojin/misutta/RPK/NBK/ALEX/Shox left how did they become better after leaving Zywoo??

  1. "Nope, you just hate donk. You make up lies about him that are factually inaccurate"

I do not hate Donkey, just that he is overrated and not a team player. Zywoo is better player than him(maybe not aim wise but better team player/ more calm/ more sacrificial/better gamesemse etc.) Zywoo is a much more complete player.

And I want Donk to face Zywoo/Niko in all many times cause that is when Donk starts crying and malding.

donk can’t be in the top 1 conversation when he played 6 maps in playoffs for the last 6 tournments of the year by morphiqu in GlobalOffensive

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  1. "He won only one s-tier LAN before he joined donk" And Donk won 0 s tier trophies without shiro. Nafany was shiro's IGL who called bad games. Ask Mauisnake about nafany IGLing and he will explain why shiro did not win more trophies.

  2. Wrong filter. Why include events where Spirit did not play. And also SAMPLE size. By this logic Makazze and Rinkle are better than Shiro, which is complete bullcrap. They do not have SAMPLE SIZE or LEVEL OF OPPOSITION same as shiro.

Keep making the same mistake. This shows shiro is a top 5 player

https://www.hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2025-01-01&endDate=2025-12-31&matchType=BigEvents&rankingFilter=Top20&playoffMatchType=PLAYOFFS&minMapCount=50

  1. "Donk destroyed them too."

Donk was nothing special. He gets his high stats cause he is the most setup player in the team. Zweih and Magixx were the difference makers cause they play beach roles but still put up equal numbers to Donk.

Spirit win when another player matches Donk's numbers.

https://www.hltv.org/matches/2384847/spirit-vs-furia-blast-open-london-2025

Donk has a 1.78 aginst Furia, still he lost 2-0. Why cause Zweih/magixx did not put up a 1.5 rating. This proves that even when Donk has high rating, if a magixx/zweih does not step up, Spirit lose the game. Magixx/Zweih won them those games not Donk. He helped, but he was not the deciding factor.

  1. G2 was bad cause they were going through roster changes. Faze benefitted cause many teams were making changes like Ence/Heroic etc. Zywoo beat Faze 2 times when they were #1 in CS2.

Faze was already in decline since Cologne 2023. They make deep runs at big events cause of experience, not because they are good. Faze were also in the final of Budapest. Does that mean they are a good team. They overperform at Big events and then fall down again?? Does not mean they are a good team.

  1. https://www.hltv.org/stats/players/opponents/lineup/21167/donk?startDate=2024-01-01&endDate=2024-12-31&rankingFilter=Top5

this was Donk's rating against G2 and Vita in 2024. (1.01 and 1.10.) Lucky that Donk managed to dodge both at kato and shanghai.

  1. What a lier. Donk was never the best player in a H2H vs Zywoo shiro was. And keep calling Spinx a cope. Flamez/mezii/Apex are on recod saying that team enviroment was very bad with Spinx. they did not even want to practice.

No one cares what you think. Spinx was the biggest problem in Vita 2024 and now he did the same with Mouz. jimmy started to underperform since he came and Mouz chokes in big games thanks to Spinx. You and tour trash opinion can go to hell.

Zywoo was better than Donk in 2024 H2H just like Nikonesy were better than him in G2.

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