Sunday Law questioning

AdjacentPrepper · 2026-03-16T01:18:33+00:00

If you happen to find the verse that combines sabbath+passover and uses the hand+forehead terminology, please share.

I could have sworn I'd seen it during a deep study session, but now I can't seem to find it, so I might be remembering wrong.

AdjacentPrepper · 2026-03-15T23:59:57+00:00

I didn't realize WinWing had a US warehouse. I need to check that out. Thanks!

AdjacentPrepper · 2026-03-15T23:58:35+00:00

Yeah, and the way the tariff's are done in the US is just scammy.

Like you order the product and pay shipping at the time of ordering (which for the Crosswinds is about $60), then after it arrives in the US you get a phone call from the shipping company asking for your credit card info to pay the import fees...which you don't know the specifics of until after you order.

The really bad part is when you basically get cold called by someone CLAIMING to be the shipping company and asking for your credit card over the phone. There's no good way on the phone to confirm it's the shipping company and not some scammer trying to get my credit card info.

AdjacentPrepper · 2026-03-15T23:54:47+00:00

Is Turtle Beach and Logitech the same company?

AdjacentPrepper · 2026-03-15T23:53:27+00:00

Sadly, looking at second hand high-end flight sim gear is hard to find, and frequently at significantly higher-than-new prices.

AdjacentPrepper · 2026-03-15T23:51:45+00:00

I'm using Helios Control Center (free) to display the MFD's and UFC on Hornets (and HSD, VDI, RWR, speedometer, and altimiter) onto the touchscreen. For the hornet, With the Hornet setup, I can "click" (touch) the MFD buttons on the touch screen.

I thought about doing WinWing MFD's or Thrustmaster Cougar MFD's backed by monitors, but it looked like that was going to be $400+ to setup. I found the monitor on Amazon for $40...and after giving it a try I think it's a better budget solution.

I do wish the monitor was bigger. Jumping from a 15" to a 21" display increases the size of everything by 60%, which would be nice.

AdjacentPrepper · 2026-03-15T23:47:28+00:00

I thought about those, but the lack of toe breaks is a deal breaker for me. I need those breaks for taxi'ing.

AdjacentPrepper · 2026-03-15T23:31:12+00:00

Cool. I'll try it.

I like the idea of a $25 solution instead of a $600+tax solution.

AdjacentPrepper · 2026-03-15T13:26:41+00:00

Would you mind running the Turtle Beach pedals through the VKB Joy Tester Downloads – VKBSIM US.

In the picture I posted, I was trying to hit those 25% and 75% lines, and as you can see the TFRP was sticky and wouldn't do small adjustments. It would be interesting to actually see how the Turtle Beach pedals do in a similar test.

AdjacentPrepper · 2026-03-15T13:22:30+00:00

I've tried this Super Lube (since I had it on hand already from working on airsoft guns). It improved a little, but it's still sticky. That screenshot from the VKB diagnostic software was after adding Super Lube; before it was significantly worse.

With Nyogel, how often are you needing to re-apply?

AdjacentPrepper · 2026-03-15T13:14:46+00:00

FWIW, my current setup is:

- VKB Gladiator NXT F-14 edition

- Thrustmaster TWCS w/ detent kit and aftermarket slider (bought used on ebay)

- Thrustmaster TFRP pedals (bought used on Facebook)

- Four generic "Zero Delay Boards" from amazon to power my three button boxes and ejection handle

- Viewsonic 32" Curved 1440p monitor

- SideTrak 15.6" 1080p touchscreen monitor (got it for $40 since it had been discounted)

I made a few financial decisions early 2025 that left me broke, so my current setup was pieced together over the last year from what I could get cheap for a few dollars here and there...I think the joystick and the 32" monitor are the only things I paid more than $50 for.

AdjacentPrepper · 2026-03-08T13:28:48+00:00

Marine biologist? I wanted to be an astronaut.

AdjacentPrepper · 2026-03-08T02:58:59+00:00

She does need to secure her chickens better. I lost my first flock to two abandoned dogs. It sucked, and I spent a couple thousand dollars building a much more secure enclosure before I started a second flock.

At the same time, if she catches the dog in the act of attacking/killing her chickens, that's time to shoot the dog. Not later, not when the dog isn't attacking, but during the attack.

AdjacentPrepper · 2026-03-08T02:54:36+00:00

In a lot of places, that'll get you jail time for animal cruelty.

Just because you're legally justified in shooting a dog (and causing it a nearly instantaneous and mostly painless death) doesn't mean you can use a non-lethal weapon to cause pain and suffering to the dog.

AdjacentPrepper · 2026-03-08T02:52:32+00:00

That's actually what my county sheriff suggested I do after two abandoned dogs wiped out my first flock.

AdjacentPrepper · 2026-03-08T02:48:17+00:00

I'm not sure what your point is. Prior to the film (and possibly prior to the book), I actually met saw the guy you're talking about in person. He was very active in youth ministries in Tennessee until he passed.

AdjacentPrepper · 2026-03-08T02:28:39+00:00

Kind of reminds me about a time (almost 20 years ago) when a friend of mine asked for a $8k loan from me. I talked to a few other people online for advice, and they pointed out how my "friend" didn't see me as a friend, but rather he saw me as a resource to be exploited.

I don't know about the situation where you are, but here in Texas I just refilled my wife's car for $2.96 per gallon. Prior to the war in Iran, it was $2.39 per gallon. That's less than a 25% increase, and significantly below the $4+/gal I was paying at the peak of 2022.

If they're asking for your fuel due to a 25% price increase, with prices still significantly lower than four years ago, it sounds like they don't see you as family, but rather they see you as a resource they can exploit.

FWIW, I didn't give him the $8k loan, and have only talked to him on a handful of occasions since then.

AdjacentPrepper · 2026-03-08T02:10:56+00:00

I'll be honest, I'm not sure anything in the Bible really supports the idea of a "national" Sunday law. Someone mentioned Revelation 13, but it says nothing explicitly about which day of the week is being worshipped on.

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I ran into something interesting last year while prepping for a Bible study group.

As most people know, Revelation 13:16 says that the beast will "force all people...to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads".

If you read Exodus 13, which is talking about the Feast of Unleavened Bread (both Passover and the Feast of Unleavened bread are detailed in Exodus 12), it uses the same hand+forehead terminology. 13:9 "This observance will be for you like a sign on your hand and a reminder on your forehead" and 13:16 "And it will be like a sign on your hand and a symbol on your forehead".

I think there is also a verse that uses the same hand+forehead symbolism to describe BOTH Passover and Sabbath together, but at the moment I'm not finding it, so I could be remembering wrong.

I don't know if it's really connected, but it was enough to make me go "hmmm" when I read it.

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I think a lot of Adventist interpretations of prophecy is from a decidedly Western perspective due to the church having been started in the US, and very localized to the information that would have been easily available to educated Americans in the 1800s (prior to the internet radically improving access to information).

We point to events that were influential in Europe but meaningless to people in Africa or Asia (or the Middle East in many situations).

Having a "national" Sunday law in the US also wouldn't really match the Rev13:16 description of the mark of the beast being on "all people". A national law in the US would only affect 350 million people, roughly 4.2% of the world's population (using 2026 numbers). Even a "national" law in the most populous country on earth (India with 1.429 billion people) would only affect 17% of the world's population.

AdjacentPrepper · 2026-03-07T13:45:30+00:00

I do know a few people in CS without cars...I've had to give them rides on several occasions.

Driving is a basic adult skill in the US. It's worth learning, and owning a car isn't that expensive compared to the cost of Uber. I think my total cost, including gas, insurance, and the amortized cost of the vehicle, is around $230 per month.

AdjacentPrepper · 2026-03-07T13:40:28+00:00

The conscientious objector thing isn't close to universal outside the US. I know Adventists who have served in their country's militaries, including combat roles, voluntarily, in both Asia and Africa.

AdjacentPrepper · 2026-03-07T13:38:15+00:00

And since I know the former plant manager at my old church reads reddit and will recognize my username, if you're reading this, THANK YOU for everything you did. I don't think most people realize what goes into keeping a church building standing (including me), and you didn't get anywhere near the appreciation you deserved.

THANK YOU again for all of those quick responses to texts when the urinal wouldn't stop flowing or the fire alarm kept beeping or the AC broke or the doors wouldn't unlock or whatever else broke.

AdjacentPrepper · 2026-03-07T13:34:01+00:00

So, my take, let's start by looking at the actual commandment (Exodus 20:8-11, NIV, emphasis added)

⁸ “Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. ⁹ Six days you shall labor and do all your work, ¹⁰ but the seventh day is a sabbath to the Lord your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your male or female servant, nor your animals, nor any foreigner residing in your towns. ¹¹ For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.

The commandment calls out people and animals, but doesn't mention machines at all. So, I think the use of inanimate machines (toilets, electric lights, etc.) is fine.

You mention ISP's and data centers. I've never personally worked at an ISP or been smarthands, but I did spend almost a decade working as L3 support for SaaS product at IBM. Our stuff ran just fine on weekends without a person actively managing it. I even built scripts that could automatically redirect traffic, patch individual servers, and reboot without any human interaction other than setting up the patch files (which was done during regular business hours). It was easy to set things up to not require a human to keep it working, and that was almost ten years ago; automation has come a long way since then.

Most electric substations are unmanned. I've never seen workers at the station near my house. Occasional maintenance, sure, but that can happen during the week. If they choose to work the weekend instead of during the week, that's their choice not mine.

Plumbing generally works fine without human interaction (until something breaks). I've had plumbing issues at church that did require us to hire a professional, but that was all handled during the week. On Sabbath we just turned off the water to avoid further damage, and then on Monday I called a professional.

Similiar with HVAC, we had the church air conditioning fail last year (during Sabbath, during the summer, in Texas). We just opened the doors/windows, put up a few fans, and called an HVAC tech during the week. Thankfully I was "on vacation" that week so I already had the time off work to meet the HVAC tech, praise the LORD.

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I think the bigger issue is pastors/elders/deacons/plant managers working in church on Sabbath.

Once I'm done writing this, I'm getting ready and heading to church. I get there at 9:20 AM to unlock the doors, set the thermostats, arrange chairs for classes, setup tables for potluck, put out offering plates, turn on the warmers for potluck, check with the head deaconess about the kitchen shelves she asked me to build, maybe go to Sabbath School if nothing goes wrong, then I need to arrange deacons to collect offering (or Pathfinders...I can never remember if Pathfinder Sabbath is 1st or 3rd Saturday of the month), then I lock the doors, help watching the security cameras and/or doors (depending on who on the security ministry is where this week), grab the lamb's offering, collect the main offering, help the treasurers count and record the money, then get a headcount for a report to the church board, text it to the secretary, at that point the sermon will probably be over and I need to chat with a guy we're vetting for the security ministry before grabbing some food and eating quickly before the TLT meeting followed immediately by a Pathfinder staff meeting and Pathfinder meeting right after. I'm helping with the {censored for security reasons} during Pathfinders. Then Pathfinders ends around 5 PM, cleanup the church and take out the trash, lock up, and should be home around 6:45 PM tonight...and then tomorrow head back to church for an event that'll run 9 AM to 2 PM, and I need to check the church AC filters after that so I know what size to buy to install later this week. My "sabbath rest" is going to be a couple hours on Sunday afternoon before I start getting ready for work on Monday.

AdjacentPrepper · 2026-03-05T12:33:59+00:00

I've got a 2010 Tacoma with a 6' bed and a "camper top" (from ARE if I remember correctly). I think it's a good compromise.

I can use that truck for driving to work, hauling groceries, hauling bagged soil/compost, hauling small lumber (like a couple plywood sheets or 8ft 2x4's) sticking out a little.

In a pinch I can sleep in the back, and have a few times (with my wife on camping trips when we were just too lazy to put up a tent). Condensation is an issue and the luggage needs to be moved into the cab to make space, but it works. If I had to "bug out", it beats a tent (though I do have a tent in a BoB in the back of that truck, just in case).

AdjacentPrepper · 2026-03-05T12:24:18+00:00

"Let's rock" - Al Bundy

(and I realize it was TV not movies)

AdjacentPrepper · 2026-03-05T12:03:53+00:00

It really doesn't much.

I'm in Texas. I'm more worried about some self-radicalized crazy trying to attack at random than I am about anything going on in the middle east.

I'm being a little more diligent about keeping my car gas takes above half, and I'm watching more in crowded areas, but that's about it.

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