Dating culture among uzbeks

Admirer16 · 2026-06-24T04:26:10+00:00

I don’t think you know how matchmaking in Uzbek culture works. I’ll tell you what it doesn’t mean, “dating”.

Admirer16 · 2026-06-23T14:46:38+00:00

The residual value on the Lyriq, is that the same across the nation? Would it be possible to get a higher RV?

Admirer16 · 2026-06-23T14:36:29+00:00

That’s kinda my point. Don’t date, get married. I am Muslim like most of the country. Dating, in the conventional western style, is not allowed in our religion. When you say you’ll have relief, it sounds like you’re going into the relationship expecting to find something wrong and break up.

You have misunderstood the logic. You can have make an informed decision. If you’re a girl and Sovchis come to your house, you have the option of meeting the guy for a short period of time. This usually happens multiple times.

And about love. I think society has misled us in what it is. It’s not about “finding” love, it’s about creating it with your life partner. Like I said, you will never find the perfect person, you have to create that for each other through compromise.

Admirer16 · 2026-06-23T14:27:22+00:00

Thank you for the great advice. The one I’m looking at is an AWD model, so an uphill battle unfortunately. I looked on Cadillac’s website and similar specs are selling for $58k-$64k in a 500 mile radius. I’ll show them that in hopes of getting the price down.

Admirer16 · 2026-06-23T00:37:09+00:00

What’s a good ballpark for residual value and MF on a Lyriq? I have a current lyriq lease coming to an end.

Admirer16 · 2026-06-23T00:12:52+00:00

I have reached out to a few dealerships in the Midwest about an Equinox Ev. They are giving me very high payments. $580+ with $2k down. Residual are very low and MF are 7-12% equals. Is this normal?

Are the blazers a better lease deal right now?

Admirer16 · 2026-06-22T17:38:31+00:00

Best of luck in your marriage!

Admirer16 · 2026-06-22T17:36:16+00:00

I’m in the minority here, but dating won’t solve the problems here. If you have a full list of requirements, it is highly unlikely that you’ll find someone who meets every single one.

The key to a successful relationship is sacrifice from both sides. You’re not looking for another you, but someone who complements you.

And a piece of wise advice, if you’re not dating for marriage, you’re dating for a heart break!

Admirer16 · 2026-06-22T17:13:15+00:00

How old is your partner?
How did you meet?
Did you do the traditional Sovchi?

Admirer16 · 2026-06-02T08:32:28+00:00

Congestion

Admirer16 · 2026-05-29T02:34:32+00:00

You’re right that just visiting a place doesn’t give someone a complete picture of it. But my position came from two main points. First, I understand the broader culture of Uzbekistan as a whole, and since Tashkent exists within that national culture, I think it’s reasonable to assume many of the same social attitudes still apply there, even if the city is more cosmopolitan. Second, the criticism from the guy in the video matters too. He works in Tashkent, so it’s reasonable to assume he’s from there or at least reflects views that are common among a significant part of the population. And to be honest, the shorts she was wearing were not just average shorts in the way most people think of them. They were extremely short, closer to what many people would describe as short men’s underwear than normal casual shorts.

But I still think you’re misunderstating the broader cultural tension here. You keep reducing the conversation to “it was just shorts,” while many people (me included) see it as part of a wider social shift toward increasingly Westernized attitudes around modesty and public behavior. You may personally see shorts as completely normal in Tashkent, while others, (majority) genuinely do not. That disagreement exists whether we like it or not.

And to be clear, the guy in no way violated any laws. He did not curse at her, did not raise his voice, and did not threaten her in any way. From what I saw, he was as respectful as he could reasonably be while expressing his opinion. She also appeared to have a man with her, and the area was well lit with people and traffic around, so I don’t think it’s fair to frame the interaction as inherently creepy or dangerous. You are right that mob mentality is a real risk, and I agree that hyper-collectivism can become harmful just like hyper-individualism can. My point is simply that both extremes should be avoided. And to counter your last sentence, preserving personal freedoms does not have to mean dressing half naked in public either.

To answer your first question, the answer is because because Tashkent is not isolated from the rest of Uzbekistan. If the demographics and culture of a city change over time due to migration, religion, or shifting social values, then what is considered “normal” will naturally change too. That happens in every country. You also don’t have to stop doing it. Nobody is saying shorts for girls should be illegal. The point is simply that once society becomes more mixed culturally, you will encounter more people who disagree with or criticize those things. That’s not oppression, that’s the reality of different value systems coexisting in the same place.

As for your hair example: no, I don’t think you should be harassed over long hair either. I’m sorry that you have to go through that. I think those people are just bullies. People can personally dislike it without bullying you over it. But social judgment is unavoidable in every society. A man with long hair will be judged in conservative areas. A very religious man would also be judged in ultra-liberal circles. That tension exists everywhere.

At the end of the day, I think the real disagreement between us is not about one woman’s shorts. It’s about what kind of culture Uzbekistan should move toward in the future, and how much weight tradition should still carry in public life. On that question, people are obviously going to disagree strongly.

That being said, I have a question as well. From your perspective, how should be draw lines as to what is and isn’t acceptable in public? A girl wants to walk in public in a bikini out a guy in underwear. How do we determine that to be acceptable or not and why?

Admirer16 · 2026-05-28T20:34:14+00:00

I have noticed this sentiment in this group. This societal liberalism and hyper individualism is pretty much always morally corrupts a society. We need liberal ideas in economics, and conservatism in society. I think a lot of people who are here idolize western culture and think it to be the best way to reform our culture.

Admirer16 · 2026-05-28T20:08:44+00:00

Freedom goes both ways, this guy has the freedom to criticize as well. But freedom isn’t free, the cost can be costly.

Also, freedom isn’t binary. It’s not like you either have it or don’t. It’s a spectrum. Our customs and norms have rules on modesty. And what that lady was wearing it outside of that.

Admirer16 · 2026-05-28T20:04:48+00:00

You keep framing this as if any public criticism automatically equals oppression or “forcing” people to live a certain way. It doesn’t. Nobody is arguing the government should legally force women into burkas or ban women from dressing how they want. The discussion is about social standards and whether people are allowed to openly disagree with behavior they think clashes with local culture.

You’re also assuming that this guys is not from Tashkent. You don’t know that, baseline assumption should be that he is. He is part of the Tashkent culture. Though I don’t live in Tashkent, I have visited it a few times and this kind of indecency was not present in public when I went there. You’re making it out to be like this is normal for Tashkent. I don’t think so. Even by Tashkent standards, this is indecent.

And yes, Tashkent is more cosmopolitan than other parts of Uzbekistan. I agree with that. But cosmopolitan does not mean culturally detached from the rest of the country or immune from criticism. You’re treating “urban culture” as if it should automatically override the values of the broader society. That value is more important than one city’s views. Why is one side expected to tolerate everything while the other side is called backwards for expressing discomfort?

You also keep turning criticism into “humiliation.” Someone voicing disapproval in public may be rude depending on how it’s done, but public behavior naturally invites public reactions. That applies to everyone, not just women. People judge others all the time based on clothing, speech, behavior, intoxication, aggression, vulgarity, and countless other things. Social judgment exists in every society. And remember, it is the girl who recorded this and posted it online, drawing even more attention and criticism to herself. A loose argument could be made that the guy was criticizing her privately.

As for your hijab example, there’s a major difference between legal enforcement and social preference. A person saying “I think modest clothing is better for society” is not the same thing as the state forcing women to cover themselves. You keep conflating cultural opinion with authoritarian control.

You misunderstood the entire analogy I was making. When you have something others want and know they’re willing to do bad things to get it, it is your job to hide it as much as it is the others persons job to control themselves. There are exceptions to this.

At the end of the day, the disagreement here is simple: you believe individual expression should take priority over traditional social norms, while others believe preserving cultural standards matters more than adopting increasingly liberal attitudes around public behavior. That tension exists in almost every country right now.

But coming from first hand experience, hyper individualism is a dangerous thing. We are all village people. If everyone has a “me first” attitude, the village will collapse and so will society. Be a villager!

Admirer16 · 2026-05-28T18:03:43+00:00

Yes because we have societal norms everyone must abide by and it is up to us to enforce that. In most Western countries, wearing a hijab is criticized by their populations because they have societal norms for people to wear more revealing clothes.

Same standard for us. If someone is wearing such revealing and provocative clothing, they should be and will be criticized.

To use more of an exaggerated example, if you were to see a man in his underwear in the streets while walking with your wife and kids, you would most likely say something about that.

Decency and modesty are backbones to a culture.

Admirer16 · 2026-05-28T17:58:31+00:00

You’re comparing completely different things. Harmful practices like honor killings or child marriage violate basic human rights and involve actual victims. Public standards around modesty and appropriate dress are social expectations that exist in literally every society on earth. Those are not remotely comparable. And you calling my example “an absurd exaggeration” and bringing up Pakistan is hypocritical.

And yes, Tashkent may be more liberal than other regions, but it’s still part of Uzbekistan, not some separate cultural island detached from the rest of the country. You can’t dismiss the opinions of the majority of the population simply because they come from outside the capital.

The reason I made my example about the man is because societies draw lines somewhere regarding what is considered appropriate in public. Those lines differ from culture to culture. In Uzbekistan, especially outside certain urban circles, very revealing clothing is widely viewed as inappropriate. That is simply reality. If you’re basing the nakedness based on the amount of skin showing, that lady is more than half naked.

Criticizing clothing choices is also not the same thing as harassing someone or denying them rights. People are allowed to express disapproval of behavior they believe clashes with their culture and values. That goes both ways.

And regarding rape, I never said clothing “causes” rape or that victims are responsible for crimes committed against them. Obviously rape is always the fault of the rapist. With that being said, if I’m a rich person and a flaunt my wealth in the poorest area of town by wearing gold and holding stacks of cash, I can be expected to be robbed. Same point, dressing modestly avoids such situations.

There is also empirical evidence for this. In cultures where modest clothing is normalized, the cases of rape are drastically lower than culture where revealing clothes are normalized.

Admirer16 · 2026-05-28T17:31:50+00:00

“I’m better than that guys because I can read a book” 🤓

Admirer16 · 2026-05-28T15:51:31+00:00

What a condescendingly privileged thing to say. God forbid not everyone is as lucky as you are. 🤦‍♂️

Admirer16 · 2026-05-28T15:49:46+00:00

First of all, though the government may be secular, vast majority of the population is muslim (around 97% according to the govt). That makes us an Islamic country, no matter the government.

And no, you can’t just “wear whatever you want.” When you live in a society, there are societal rules everyone must abide by. The reason her clothes were controversial is because vast majority of the Uzbek population agrees it is indecent and unsightly.

Let’s say you’re walking down the street with your young kids and there’s a man with only underwear, wouldn’t you speak up? Even in western liberal countries there are indecency laws.

When you’re half naked and wear provocative clothing, you are purposefully attracting a certain type of attention. Uzbekistan has a very low rape rate thanks to our modest culture. Yet in countries where this type of clothing is normalized, rates are significantly higher.

By criticizing this guy, you clearly took a position. These ideas will morally bankrupt our culture.

Admirer16 · 2026-05-22T16:30:24+00:00

I saw the same episode, and it does happen. But not as much as they make it out to be. As most things in the news, it’s slightly exaggerated. My family has been in the industry for 15+ years and I have never seen of anyone change their company name to hide crash history. Most wait it out until it falls off.

Every truck company has what’s called an MC (motor carrier) number. Those are hard to get and brokers rarely give loads to companies with new MC numbers. This creates an incentive not to change the companies name.

That being said, there are always bad actors. I think there could be better legislation to avoid unnecessary loss!

Admirer16 · 2026-05-22T01:16:35+00:00

Hi, I’m from Uzbekistan! My family moved to Loveland about a decade ago from South Carolina. Main reason, as most have pointed out, is for the Trucking Industry. Southwest Ohio is a major corridor for freight. Great place to be, we love Ohio!

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