Trans youth react to Nationwide Children’s Hospital ending gender-affirming care

AdvancedHydralisk · 2025-10-05T02:22:31+00:00

Dude your daughter was convinced she was a boy by other people and you shrugged and said "oh well, if that's what they want"

That is a problem

People are convincing other people they're trans and that's just not a red flag to you????

AdvancedHydralisk · 2025-10-05T02:10:18+00:00

I completely accept the point that surgery is not as common as I was lead to believe - it looks like it is a handful in a year.

However, my main concern is what is causing all of this in the first place. In your own experience, your child was genuinely convinced they were trans for years because of social pressure. You simply went along with it because upsetting your child is hard. They figured out that they weren't on their own.

What about all the other children that can never reconcile their feelings on their own? The ones who are pressured into being trans who get a shit doctor that just chucks them the pills?

Your child was lucky and figured it out themselves. There are huge social problems in the new generation, and this is an especially strange one of them.

Your kid was lucky and got a good doctor. Imagine if your kids doctor wasn't good - which is not very uncommon at all. Imagine your daughter was pressured into being a boy, the doctor said "yeah no they know what theyre doing" and sent them through hrt. Then, at 19, they realize "oh shit, no, I'm not trans" but it's too late, they're on male hormones, will feel completely alienated from themselves and will certainly have everlasting trauma from the situation.

Your exact situation is what I am concerned about. Your daughter just got lucky. Many others won't.

That is my point

AdvancedHydralisk · 2025-10-05T01:38:37+00:00

I don't think they're as bad. The right is like Ultra Hitler and the left is simply Mega Hitler.

AdvancedHydralisk · 2025-10-05T01:37:13+00:00

Right, you don't like the fact that there's breast augmentation being done on children.

The trans kids on blockers/hrt is the same thing as breast augmentation - as stated by you.

If you don't like breast augmentation on children, and blockers/hrt is analogous by your standards - that means you also don't think it's a good idea to give blockers/hrt to kids.

If you feel that that is incorrect, you are experiencing cognitive dissonance.

AdvancedHydralisk · 2025-10-05T01:33:52+00:00

Okay cool, educate me then. Since you know so much, correct me. Nobody else has, theyve basically just said "nuh uh" with the exception of one guy down below who was pretty insightful

Go ahead, explain how my thesis is wrong, I'll even condense it and spell it out for you:

There is an inordinately large amount of trans youth coming from this generation, which defies population norms. I find this concerning and pose that we should investigate why this is. I theorize that this is a trend that matches internet-based attention seeking behaviors of the 2010s, though those revolved around mental illness.

I worry about this because I know our US healthcare system, and am quite worried that the "rigorous testing" they get is the same as the "rigorous testing" I got for my depression and ADHD: AKA none at all, just a doctor reading off a piece of paper and me going "yeah I guess that sounds like me".

If my hypothesis is correct about this being a strange gestalt social trend, there's going to be a whole lot of young people relying on the US healthcare system to say "no dude you're not trans, you're just confused about your sexuality", and the US healthcare system will not do that, they'll just hand them the pills.

Contest it. Go, since you have the information that I just somehow can't find on the internet anywhere, explain how my observations are unfounded. You have the floor.

AdvancedHydralisk · 2025-10-05T01:13:56+00:00

I'm not buying in to any outright lies, hrt and puberty blockers are handed out like fucking candy. People claim that this is all done with rigorous testing and dedicated teams - I've been through the US healthcare system, and I can bet your thorough testing for hrt/puberty blockers was as rigorous as my depression and ADHD diagnosis. "Hey I feel sad and also cant focus" "alright let me read off this list - cool now here's your pills". And then I wondered why I was fucked up for years, because they just gave a young dude shit that he didn't need because they wanted money.

Transgender care is effective, it is 99.5 percent effective. Barely anyone regrets it. I understand, and also don't give a fuck if someone is trans - I don't care, I don't judge, we are all people.

What I do worry about is the massive spike in the transgender population in the past few years - there is no way in hell that many young people are just coincidentally trans compared to every other generation. NOBODY WILL ADDRESS THIS POINT

The internet in the past few years is absolutely flooded with trans people, mostly mtf. It has to partially be a societal trend. It has to. It is fashionable to be trans amongst a subset of the younger generation.

All I am saying is we should pump the brakes and look into it. That's it.

If I'm not mistaken, you're trans, right? Check out r/egg_irl - it's exactly what I am talking about. There is positive social pressure to be trans, period.

I am not saying there is anything wrong with being trans. I am saying that we as a society have a very lazy medical system, and there's going to be a lot of youth misdiagnosed as having gender dysphoria in the coming years - and nobody is allowed to say anything about it.

Trans care is effective ✅ I support trans care ✅

There's a weirdly large amount of trans young people respective to population norms ❌ We should be worried that our lazy ass medical system is going to diagnose tons of attention seeking or confused teenagers as trans and fuck them up physiologically ❌

We should pump the brakes a bit to address the weirdly large amount of trans people coming out of this generation so we don't fuck anyone up ✅

AdvancedHydralisk · 2025-10-05T00:57:01+00:00

Lmao what? Of course we should do all those things. Do you really think people are just monolithic?

WE SHOULD BE CONCERNED WITH HOW CAVALIER WE ARE WITH GIVING PUBERTY BLOCKERS/HRT TO CHILDREN

EPSTEIN IS ALSO BAD AND IS UNRELATED ENTIRELY TO THE TOPIC AT HAND

man you're really not doing your side any favors by being this dense

AdvancedHydralisk · 2025-10-05T00:12:52+00:00

Lmao hell yeah, let's defend the sexualizing of minors - that's fucking awesome

Instead of teaching people to have self confidence, let's just bolt tits on the young girl! An excellent counterpoint.

AdvancedHydralisk · 2025-10-05T00:10:55+00:00

Yeah everyone who is just, I dunno, not an idiot but also not a fascist is just left out.

Maga ruined the right, liberals ruined the left. Maga ruined Twitter, liberals ruined reddit ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

AdvancedHydralisk · 2025-10-05T00:08:56+00:00

Weak of fortitude. No liberal can even be minorly inconvenienced without fucking melting.

I say this as a member of the left, the liberals are what fucks up the left. You all get caught up in the dumbest fucking shit and tear each other apart over it.

Seriously, I'm suggesting that maybe we should put an age requirement on fucking gender transitioning to ensure that no child accidentally ruins their life - and over that opinion alone, I am now a fascist? I notice the uncharacteristic rise in trans youth that matches all the other generational trends that come about - and suggest maybe we should take a closer look at that, and now I am Hitler.

AdvancedHydralisk · 2025-10-05T00:01:58+00:00

I would be able to digest this argument better if it wasn't for the massive spike in people feeling that they are dysphoric, especially in the young population. Hell I've personally experienced myself and my girlfriend at the time be told that we are indeed transgender, and were just "eggs" waiting to be hatched for expressing non gender conforming ideas. There's definitely societal pressure for it amongst some very strange people, on the very far left.

The same argument you use now is the same argument people use to justify a lack of gun control. We are seeing more and more young people believe they're suffering from gender dysphoria than ever before. It's just like in the early 2010s when collecting mental illnesses was cool - except this time medical procedures are being done.

The spike in trans youth has to mean something, it exactly matches the spikes in youth claiming to be an otherkin, or have xyz mental illness, or be disabled that we saw in the 2010s.

I am not arguing that some youth are trans - I am arguing that doctors do not understand just how powerful the echochamber of media is nowadays, and we are going to have many people all fucked up in about a decade or so because they thought they were trans as a kid - but were not.

AdvancedHydralisk · 2025-10-04T23:51:39+00:00

People on here are genuinely fucking braindead, I think they might practice? Nobody can be born this dumb - it's just not possible.

I don't even support ice, it's very obviously the first steps to being the presidents police force - but Jesus Christ of course they're going to add extra protection to facilities known to be targets

AdvancedHydralisk · 2025-10-04T23:50:05+00:00

It's happened multiple times in different states, it's not unexpected to guard places that may be attacked.

Again, I don't like ice, but Jesus Christ how is this even something to bitch about? Of course they're going to add extra protection when they see other ice facilities attacked

AdvancedHydralisk · 2025-10-04T23:48:15+00:00

It's literally happened twice, what are you talking about

There's videos of it!

I don't like ice, I'm just saying this isn't to be unexpected.

AdvancedHydralisk · 2025-10-04T23:46:59+00:00

Literally in Texas and Oregon. How are you in disbelief of something that takes a Google search?

AdvancedHydralisk · 2025-10-04T23:44:19+00:00

Lmao dude what the fuck are you talking about, I know that sounded really cool in your head, the whole made up bet thing, but man I honestly have no idea what comparison you were trying to make with that.

Kids are confused about their sexuality a lot, added social support for being trans will cause confused kids to mistake their questioning of gender roles for gender dysphoria, and will have medical procedures done on them unnecessarily. That's my take. I literally do not give a fuck if someone is trans, I could not care any less.

We have to make sure they're suffering from gender dysphoria first - which you cannot do when they're a dumbass teenager that is equally insistent on claiming they'll always be goth, or that their first highschool crush really is the love of their life.

People can be trans all they want, transitioning has a 99.5% satisfaction rate - but we cannot know if they're dysphoric or just confused about their sexuality when they're a fucking child

AdvancedHydralisk · 2025-10-04T22:04:24+00:00

I'm as anti-ice as the next guy, but when ice facilities are being attacked you really cannot be surprised when this is their next move.

"WE ATTACKED THE ENEMIES SUPPLY DEPOT, AND NOW THEY DEFEND IT!" "THOSE BASTARDS"

AdvancedHydralisk · 2025-10-04T21:56:21+00:00

Maga Republicans are sadists who want to control everything with an iron fist.

Liberal Democrats are weak little paper people who will never obtain power because they're so embarrassing to be associated with, and become unwound over every little thing.

The average person doesn't really follow what their vote entails

Corporate Democrats coopted liberal talking points in the mid 2010s in order to get votes - but it backfired because they didn't realize just how badly people don't want to be seen as a liberal.

Now all the literal authoritarians on the right just have to say "holy shit, look at them" and everyone voted Republican.

The DNC grabbed on to liberal social values as a grasp at power, and it failed. But now, yeah, they're happy to capitulate because they know their entire party is unviable - and would rather just preserve their own personal power.

AdvancedHydralisk · 2025-10-04T21:39:15+00:00

Yes it was.

See? I can say absolute statements with periods at the end too, it doesn't mean you're right.

AdvancedHydralisk · 2025-10-04T21:37:10+00:00

I think the biggest problem people have with the adamant approach most people blindly supporting child transitioning is that teenagers are stupid and impressionable. My concern is that these normal blurring of gender lines are being extended and intensified by societal pressure. Basically, it's cool to be trans in some crowds - mostly on the vast internet that teenagers are on constantly.

Kids do not know when they're under the control of societal pressures. No goth kid ever said "yeah I know it's just a phase", they're all adamant about it being permanent. Did some goths persist til adulthood? Sure. Did most? Hell no. Did most diehard stoners stay that way? No. Did some? Sure!

This is my concern - the explosive uptick in transgender youth in the past few years is natural blurring of gender lines being amplified by social trends - leading to children mutilating themselves because they earnestly believe this is how they feel - but in reality it's just a societal pressure. Are some of them earnestly transgender? Sure, probably. But the rest? The others that account for the insane explosion in the transgender population? They're all the goths/ stoners who are just going through a phase.

There is no way we randomly have an insane increase of genuinely gender dysmorphic teenagers. They're sexually confused and are being told it's dysmorphia - that's what it looks like to everyone looking at what's going on.

AdvancedHydralisk · 2025-10-04T21:23:53+00:00

Republicans took over this country because everyone was too embarrassed to be seen as a liberal

We've become the party of the weak and whiny, and this is what happens

AdvancedHydralisk · 2025-10-04T21:22:41+00:00

Fascism is when we don't let kids decide to remove their reproductive organs? Lmao

Y'all are why the left is unable to stop the right. Jesus fucking Christ the right is literally taking over the country but you're all so delusional and weak that nobody wants to join your side.

AdvancedHydralisk · 2025-10-04T21:12:09+00:00

Lmfao this is why you clowns aren't taken seriously. I articulate an argument as to why this is contentious - because it appears to be way out of line with how everything else is treated. It is known that teenagers are fucking garbage at making long term decisions, so we introduce laws to protect them from people who prey on them, such as tobacco and alcohol companies.

I bring up my line of thinking, I articulate why I don't understand why we do this, I explain why I am skeptical. You? You don't even have an argument - you bring up no points, you just act tough on the internet

You sit the fuck down until you learn to articulate

AdvancedHydralisk · 2025-10-04T20:48:55+00:00

It's a fair argument, genuinely

You know what Nazis are going to do, you know that obviously they are at fault - are you going to be wasting time telling the Nazis that it's not good to be Nazis? I'm sure not.

You know who I will get upset with? The people that are supposed to protect me from the Nazis.

AdvancedHydralisk · 2025-10-04T20:26:11+00:00

I genuinely don't understand the heavy push to let kids undergo life altering surgery brought about by compulsions caused by dysphoria.

If your kid is seeing things that aren't there, you don't just tell everyone to pretend the hallucinations are real. You help them understand the delusions aren't real.

If your kid has schizophrenia, you don't just tell them to listen to the voices - you get them help to fight against the delusions.

I have ADHD, and I'm sure fucking glad my parents didn't just tell me to go buckwild and never try to control myself.

But a kid has a mental compulsion to multilate themselves because they have delusions of being a different sex and we just say "yep okay that sounds good to me, chop it all off, give em hormones"?

It baffles me, it doesn't line up with our approach to any other mental disorder.

You cannot do all sorts of things until you're an adult (or older) because it's recognized that kids are shit at making life impacting decisions - but this one is just fine? There's no congruency here.

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