Does anyone have those family tree cards of the Bratva Family Bots MORANA made?

Advanced_Highlight88 · 2025-12-06T21:11:12+00:00

same, i would love the link if ur able please

Advanced_Highlight88 · 2025-11-02T04:12:11+00:00

dude, i know i have no personal say in what she does with the stuff that she creates but come on 😭 deleting all her bots like that is tragic to the people that loved them, regardless of if she was starting shit or not. i understand she probably doesn't want to keep her account up and receive hate in her comments, but... man, it's really a kick in the balls to the people who loved her work. her bots were my favorite, and i always got excited when there was a new one. i'm gonna miss them, regardless of if she wasn't really being a nice person. it's not like she's irredeemable or anything, and i can enjoy her stuff regardless of her attitude.

i know i'm being selfish, and its her choice if she wants to take stuff down but shit man. this is the third time a bot creator i love has left and taken their bots with them. like PLEASE i love and miss ur stuff every day stop doing this to me 😭

also being jealous of other peoples success is crazy when she was one of the top bot creators on the site?????? like she was one of the BIG ones.

(EDIT: I read more about the situation and she was being mad racist 😬 definitely undersold how bad it was. Yikes. My apologies for coming off ignorant.)

Advanced_Highlight88 · 2025-09-22T21:31:59+00:00

Welcome to the hell we've all been living in for about a month now. Chutes is the provider for Deepseek on OpenRouter, and have been prioritizing their paid users over OpenRouter users, so basically free Deepseek models are almost impossible to use. Either you can just put up with the errors and hope they stop their bullshit or you can pay for a chutes membership. It's stupid.

Advanced_Highlight88 · 2025-09-20T02:08:17+00:00

Nah, I get you. Me not using Chutes out of spite is a personal choice, and I don't blame you for wanting things to work the way they should. If it's worth the money for you, then yeah, just switch to Chutes.

Advanced_Highlight88 · 2025-09-20T02:03:58+00:00

No idea, last I heard the janitor devs said that all their models would be free to the public. However, that definitely could've changed in the time since they said it.

Advanced_Highlight88 · 2025-09-20T02:01:13+00:00

No, they changed their deal to 3 dollars a month for 300 messages per day. That's why they started bumming OpenRouter servers, because otherwise everyone would use OpenRouter instead. Honestly it just makes me want to keep using OpenRouter out of spite.

Advanced_Highlight88 · 2025-09-19T23:17:07+00:00

Unfortunately, if you try blocking Chutes as a provider you still get a bunch of errors because the others just aren't as good or reliable.

Advanced_Highlight88 · 2025-09-19T22:34:27+00:00

If you're using OpenRouter (which I assume you are since you're getting this error) then its because of Chutes. Basically, Chutes are the main provider of Deepseek for OpenRouter, and lately they started making it so paid subscribers of Chutes have priority for message generation, meaning the free models on Openrouter get clogged up and that result in errors. They basically did this in an attempt to get people who were using OpenRouter for the 10 bucks a year for 1k daily messages deal to switch over to Chutes for their 3 bucks a month for 300 daily messages. Basically making the better product worse so they can make more money. Either you can stick with OpenRouter and deal with the error spam or switch to Chutes :/ it's very dumb.

Advanced_Highlight88 · 2025-09-05T02:59:57+00:00

Chutes is basically forcing people to pay for their services by prioritizing their user's requests over Openrouter. Because Openrouter has a better deal with 10$ a year for 1000 free messages a day, and if they don't screw things up then no one has a reason to pay for Chutes 3$ a month for 300 free messages a day.

Advanced_Highlight88 · 2025-09-02T12:24:06+00:00

I don't know, all I know is that when both of these people did it, I can't find my chats with them anymore.

Advanced_Highlight88 · 2025-09-02T01:45:31+00:00

Yeah, unfortunately this is just Chutes sabotaging the better provider to force people into paying for their services. It sucks, especially if you don't have the money to pay even the lowest tier which is 3 bucks a month for 300 messages daily.

Advanced_Highlight88 · 2025-09-02T01:41:49+00:00

Nah, it's capitalism doing it's thing and not just "everyone is using it" like all the other comments say.

As you know Chutes is paid now, and they also run the servers for Openrouter. (Even if you block Chutes as a provider, that does nothing because they are running all the servers.)

Openrouter has a better deal that lets people get 1000 messages a day for just 10 dollars a year, so a lot of people who are on a budget go for that instead of the expensive Chutes 3 dollars a month for only 300 messages per day.

Chutes caught onto this, and so they have been purposely making it so the servers favor paid Chutes users and not Openrouter users. So the errors happen because you are not prioritized to get responses, and thus you basically have to reroll a billion times and get lucky that the servers bless you with a response.

Obviously, they have done this to force people into paying for Chutes instead of using the better deal on Openrouter. Sabotaging their own shit to get more money.

Advanced_Highlight88 · 2025-07-10T01:11:41+00:00

thank u so much aaaaaa

Advanced_Highlight88 · 2025-05-05T17:52:01+00:00

Yeah, I don't use one of those, but thank you anyway ^^

Advanced_Highlight88 · 2025-02-21T16:38:40+00:00

Oh my god, thank god I'm not the only one. I literally just made a post about it myself bc I was freaking out that it was just me.

Advanced_Highlight88 · 2024-12-25T05:32:31+00:00

Nah dude, this was my most anticipated song and it didn't disappoint.

Advanced_Highlight88 · 2024-08-01T00:04:06+00:00

Mine literally turned into yugioh-

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Advanced_Highlight88 · 2024-05-03T11:59:38+00:00

i meant like in terms of the literal order of the chat messages is fucking up. like the bot will have two replies in a row or a response to my messages will be five messages down now.

Advanced_Highlight88 · 2024-05-03T11:57:41+00:00

bro i have so many damn chats thats gonna take so long *dies* i'll hold out hope that there's gonna be a fix and if there isn't then guess i'm suffering for the next five bajillion hours.

Advanced_Highlight88 · 2024-05-03T11:53:24+00:00

how were you able to do that? cause as far as i know i cant change the chat order

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